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blodwyn said:
Check out the new Vista features - remind you of anything you might already be using?
What niggles me is that they have made 15 times more bottom-line buck than Apple for peddling out ideas from yesterday. I wouldn't mind if they were the ones innovating and driving the tech world forward ... but they are just merchants of nostalgia.

Vista ... w t freak is that?? Where is it going?? What is the long term commercially distinctive merit from such a horse-ass of a name ??? :mad:

Like His Lord Barracus, I pity da fool who gets drawn into it.
 
From some clever guy on Ars:

Vista stands for:

Viruses,
Infections,
Spyware,
Trojans,
Adware.

:D
 
Chundles said:
there was a post back here about a guy who had been away for 2 years and had missed the whole "Panther" thing and was just off to upgrade to Tiger, imagine the change going from 10.2 straight to 10.4 after so long with Jaguar....That'd be cool.

I know someone who went from 10.1 to 10.4. After being happy with 10.1 for a LONG time! Wow. Then again, I went from 9 to 10.2...


beg_ne said:
From some clever guy on Ars:
...
Viruses,
Infections,
Spyware,
Trojans,
Adware

Perfect list! But Infection is a little redundant. Maybe Instability?
 
As an avid Mac user, all I can say is that this thread oozes with Mac-arrogance. Hahaha. Testosterone for your average Mac geek. Plus, nice to see that we have plenty of "hatorade" running through our blood.

But honestly, I hate Windows too. I was just talking with a classmate of mine, who was complaining that her XP was crashing with the BSOD everytime she turns it on - what a pain in the arse. I told her to swtich to a Mac and I made a fresh convert today...SCORE!

Mac users are pretty cultish...wouldn't be surprised if Jobs turns around one day and reveals himself as the mastermind to our dooooom.

ps. Snow leopards are really cool - a leopard will own a vista anyday.
 
Hate is one way to deal with being a looked-down-on minority among computer users.

But humor is what I'm seeing here :)

Arrogance would be posting the same to a forum of people who love Windows. (Can't think of any examples at the moment.)
 
Now that its sunk in, I must say:

I hate the name.

Imagine how ANNOYING will it be to hear "Compatible with Windows 98 SE, ME, 2000, XP, Vista" - one doesn't fit!

And everything will say "VISTA."
 
nagromme said:
Hate is one way to deal with being a looked-down-on minority among computer users.

But humor is what I'm seeing here :)

Arrogance would be posting the same to a forum of people who love Windows. (Can't think of any examples at the moment.)

Maybe "great pride" would be a better word choice...

I can't imagine a forum dedicated to people who LOVE Windows - that's just redonculous. (I made that word up, don't flame me)
 
nagromme said:
Arrogance would be posting the same to a forum of people who love Windows. (Can't think of any examples at the moment.)

I'm not sure there would be a vastly different response. I read a page on a PC magazine forum yesterday where all their commentators were calling it Windoesn't, Windoze (for not having anything new left in it) et al
 
BGil said:
No, Spotlight's smart folders are just saved searches-- Windows 2000, XP, and Windows Desktop Search already have that. Virtual Folders in Longhorn are self-populating views that behave like real folders (you can drag things into them and they exist in a heirarchy) and they have RSS feeds so you can track when new files (or items) are added, removed, or changed.
Actually, what's the RSS feeds for? It's just another XML document on the web to allow portability, what's the point of using it in a desktop environment unless you want to track it through the internet. I don't get why so many people like using the word "RSS", it is just another XML document.... , maybe its an electronic equivalent of stuffing a sock in your pants.

BTW, I do like the other suggestions of Windows VS or Windows Vista OS, rather than Windows Vista, sounds like it is inheriting from Windows XP....
 
I was just reading on another forum and someone connected Vista with Visa - as in the way they're spelled.
 
I might just be the only one who thinks this, and I risk being flamed by saying this, but here we go:

Vista is quite a good name. It is also a significantly better name for an OS than Tiger and Leopard, but is a weaker one than Panther, which was a good name.

I quite liked some of the obscure names Microsoft used for their OSs - Windows 95 was codenamed Chicago (which sounds quite glamorous if you're English) and XP was codenamed Whistler, which I thought was a frankly cool name for no reason whatsoever.

It doesn't disguise the fact that I won't want to use Vista much, but as a name goes, it sounds pretty good.
 
thequicksilver said:
Vista is quite a good name. It is also a significantly better name for an OS than Tiger and Leopard, but is a weaker one than Panther, which was a good name.
Well, you are free to your opinion. But personally I think it's a dumb name. I thought Longhorn was bad, but this is even worse. Say it out loud and think about it for a minute. Windows Vista. Windows View (or Chicken in some languages). It took them 8 months to decide on that. I do think Tiger is a good name, though I agree it's not as good as Panther. So far I'm ambivalent about Leopard. Doesn't matter what they call it though, as long as it doesn't suck. As a guy who has to fix Windows all day, I'm hoping Vista isn't nearly as bad as the previous versions.

New features are great, but fix the bugs Microsoft.

thequicksilver said:
XP was codenamed Whistler
That name I actually like as a codename. Maybe not as a real name, but it's better than Vista. I still can't get used to that. :shudder:
 
thequicksilver said:
I might just be the only one who thinks this, and I risk being flamed by saying this, but here we go:

Vista is quite a good name. It is also a significantly better name for an OS than Tiger and Leopard, but is a weaker one than Panther, which was a good name.

I quite liked some of the obscure names Microsoft used for their OSs - Windows 95 was codenamed Chicago (which sounds quite glamorous if you're English) and XP was codenamed Whistler, which I thought was a frankly cool name for no reason whatsoever.

It doesn't disguise the fact that I won't want to use Vista much, but as a name goes, it sounds pretty good.

I'm curious as to why you think this. Why Tiger and Leopard and not Panther? Is it just a personal preference?



And I'm little confused here about these code names. If Vista is a code name, then what is the official name of this new Windows OS? Like Windows XP is to Whistler (never knew that till now), as Windows ?? is to Vista. Will it be called Windows Vista? Or just Vista? Then how to the real names and code names differ? Ahhh, this is confusing :eek: :(


It seems as though people use Apple's code names to ID a OS, we usually say Tiger instead of OS X 10.4. While with Microsoft we say Windows XP instead of Whistler.
 
tech4all said:
Like Windows XP is to Whistler (never knew that till now), as Windows ?? is to Vista.
Vista is to XP as Longhorn is to Whistler. Longhorn was just the codename. Vista is what it's actually going to be called. For now. So far, even in the Windows community, most of what I've seen, people don't like it.

The name I mean, not the OS. Though a lot of people have reservations of that too.
 
solvs said:
Vista is to XP as Longhorn is to Whistler. Longhorn was just the codename. Vista is what it's actually going to be called. For now. So far, even in the Windows community, most of what I've seen, people don't like it.

The name I mean, not the OS. Though a lot of people have reservations of that too.

Oh ok, that clears that up. It's just odd I guess on why Longhorn would be the code name for Vista. I just don't see how all this naming relates. With Apple the actual OS names are 10.0, 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, and 10.4 - they go up numerically, makes sense. The the code names Cheetah, Puma, Jaguar, Panther, and Tiger all relate to eachother as big cats. 10.4 might not directly relate to "Tiger", but the actual names (10.3, 10.4, etc) relate to eachother and the big cat names relate as well.

Oh well, it may not make sense, but it is what it is :) I'm probably just being to critical.
 
tech4all said:
With Apple the actual OS names are 10.0, 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, and 10.4 - they go up numerically, makes sense.
This would be Windows 6.0. 2000, XP, and 2003 were all 5.x. Unless this is still 5.x. Which would be kinda funny since a lot of Windows users make fun of people paying for .x upgrades when so do they.
 
Looking up "Vista" on my Dictionary Widget, I also get the following definition:

"A mental view of a succession of remembered or anticipated events."

Windows users have a pretty good mental view of the long succession of anticipated features and release dates for Longhorn that have come and gone. I'd say "Vista" is a completely appropriate name.
 
I've just been reading the BBC report on Vista, which states...

...to meet the autumn 2006 deadline, Vista will be launched with some key components missing.

So despite all the development time that's gone in there already, Microsoft are apparently quite open about the fact that they're going to be shipping a product that isn't the finished article. I honestly can't think of another industry or business that could get away with that to the degree that Microsoft does.
 
angelneo said:
Actually, what's the RSS feeds for? It's just another XML document on the web to allow portability, what's the point of using it in a desktop environment unless you want to track it through the internet. I don't get why so many people like using the word "RSS", it is just another XML document.... , maybe its an electronic equivalent of stuffing a sock in your pants.

BTW, I do like the other suggestions of Windows VS or Windows Vista OS, rather than Windows Vista, sounds like it is inheriting from Windows XP....

You can subscribe to saved searches and virtual folders. IIRC a saved search can not only encompass files and folders but internet information too. So you could have a virtual folder containing all my documents on Longhorn and any MSDN blog posts on the same topic. Or you can have a virtual folder that exists on a network (like a sharepoint, networked computer, or website) and be updated anytime the contents change. Not only can you be updated when the contents change but the proper apps can be updated as well. So your iPhoto library could update if someone adds a picture to the folder, for example.

But RSS is good for local subscriptions too. Applications can subscribe to each other or you can subscribe to your log files so you know if someone has tried to log on to your computer or not.

There are lost of things you can do with RSS and subscriptions.

"So despite all the development time that's gone in there already, Microsoft are apparently quite open about the fact that they're going to be shipping a product that isn't the finished article. I honestly can't think of another industry or business that could get away with that to the degree that Microsoft does."

They always ship features after the release of the main OS. Media Center and Tablet didn't show up until 2002 while XP was shipped in 2001. DX9 and Windows Media 9 showed up in 2002 also. The XP wave actually started with Office XP which shipped months before XP did IIRC. The Longhorn wave is similar. Exchange 12, Visual Studio 2005, and SQL Server 2005 are part of the "Longhorn Wave" but they'll ship before Longhorn does. WinFS will ship the year after as will Longhorn Server.
It's how they've always done things.

Apple does something similar but they just don't acknowledge that the product is incomplete. Every OS X releasae I can remember has a number of issues, that Apple knew about at launch, that they said they weren't going to fix until a certian time. 10.0 and 10.1 were essiential betas. 10.2 didn't get certian features like journaling until after the launch. Many problems in Panther weren't fixed until 10.3.3. Tiger had a number of known issues and QE2D still doesn't work correctly.
 
Got to love the new logo...


so original

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