Personally, I don't want to dual boot to get Windows. I want Windows running in a nice little OS X window or go into full screen mode. dual-boot = cumbersome
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Windows on Mac and Mac OS X on PCs?
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
To buy or not to buy the last PowerPC processors?
Hello-
I am new to the discussion group. The recent changes with Apple computer going from PowerPC to Intel will hopefully be a step in the right direction for all of us. The problem I am facing now is wether it's worth while to dump a big chunk of money into a two dual-core 2.5GHz PowerPC G5 processors that is more or less obsolete before I unpack it. My question is what would be the life span of this computer before it drops out of sight? The project I am faced with is to manage and process 10,000 16 mega pixal RAW photos. To make selects, prepare for web and print. The main applications we used in the past is Photoshop and iView. Apple is Aperture need the speed and memory. Lightroom from Adobe is around the corner and it does not require the huge machine to run the program. To buy or not buy...
Much appreciated for any feedback.
pqq
Hello-
I am new to the discussion group. The recent changes with Apple computer going from PowerPC to Intel will hopefully be a step in the right direction for all of us. The problem I am facing now is wether it's worth while to dump a big chunk of money into a two dual-core 2.5GHz PowerPC G5 processors that is more or less obsolete before I unpack it. My question is what would be the life span of this computer before it drops out of sight? The project I am faced with is to manage and process 10,000 16 mega pixal RAW photos. To make selects, prepare for web and print. The main applications we used in the past is Photoshop and iView. Apple is Aperture need the speed and memory. Lightroom from Adobe is around the corner and it does not require the huge machine to run the program. To buy or not buy...
Much appreciated for any feedback.
pqq
You could probably get 5 years out of that PowerMac if you wanted to. If I needed a new PowerMac now, then I'd buy it. Otherwise I'd either go with the new Intel iMac or wait until the PowerMacs have been converted to Intel. Aperture won't be able to run at native speed on Intel Macs until March, so that's another thing to keep in mind.pqq said:
In fact I'm going to buy 2 new Quads soon for my student newspaper.
We have 1 machine that we do layout on and another machine where our graphics guy does a lot of Photoshop and Illustrator. You're right, we don't need Quads, but since we can only afford to buy new machines once every 5-6 years, I'm obligated to buy the best equipment I can buy. We're also getting a 30" ACD. We also have 2 iMac G5 1.8Ghz and 2 PowerMac dual 867Mhz that were donated to us. The Quads are replacing two iMac G4s that were so old we couldn't put Tiger on them, and IT confiscated from us. Until about a month ago, we were running Quark 5 in classic mode on the dual 867's, which was a nightmare.ksgant said:
Does the Yonah core support virtualization?
Even if it does not what I see happening with windows support is Apple or a 3rd party developer releasing a virtualized Windows that might even integrate into the "Fast user switching" componient of the toolbar. Imagine just being able to go up to the user icon and selecting winddows and have the OS X desktop rotate out of the way to present a XP desktop in the backgroung.
That would be so sweet and it should be easly possible with the Yonah core even with existing technology ( even better if yohan supports virtualizations ).
Even if it does not what I see happening with windows support is Apple or a 3rd party developer releasing a virtualized Windows that might even integrate into the "Fast user switching" componient of the toolbar. Imagine just being able to go up to the user icon and selecting winddows and have the OS X desktop rotate out of the way to present a XP desktop in the backgroung.
That would be so sweet and it should be easly possible with the Yonah core even with existing technology ( even better if yohan supports virtualizations ).
SiliconAddict said:
I guess I disagree with you on principle. It WOULD be nice to not have upgrades foisted upon consumers without significant increases in functionality. Apple however, innovates, and creates value for each of their upgrades so I don't see themselves hitting a wall. Most Apple users shell out for new OSes as soon as they are released.
And the Apple market is far from saturated, let's be realistic here. In fact, their growth in market share is just beginning, they really have nowhere to go but up.
Dm84 said:
Aperture doesn't run at native speed on powermacs either
I'm not sure if anyone has read this already, but Engadget has an interesting tidbit hinting that the EFI architecture in the new Macs (or any such hardware) will not necessarily prevent Windows XP from running, since a Compatibility Support Module could allow XP to boot.
Like the article says, we'll all know soon anyway as the new Macs get out into the wild and people start playing around.
Like the article says, we'll all know soon anyway as the new Macs get out into the wild and people start playing around.
Krevnik said:Huh?
*pulls out his universal translator and inputs*
"Aperture doesn't run at native speed on powermacs either"
#@$@#@098-N)*#@)@#)(_*2302NADOEIRUNAPERSUCNATSPEED....
Aperture sucks.
Sorry but it had to be said. When you need a minimum system requirments of 1.8Ghz there is a problem with your app.
Lord Blackadder said:
Yah I sent it to macbytes this morning. I'm noticing they really haven't been on the ball lately with sent in articles. I guess it would help if some of us actually went through macbytes before posting to make sure there aren't any dups.
My bad.
SiliconAddict said:
Well, it might be the software dev in me, but I do find it hard to go from: doesn't run at native speed on native hardware, to: Poor coding. Ambiguity isn't my strong point.
Of course, didn't I read this sort of stuff coming out back when FC Pro first came out with RT effects, that the requirements for the RT stuff was absurdly high?
Sure, it may be poorly coded, but minimum requirements (which are artifical and silly at best) aren't great evidence of it. Apple could say things like 1.8Ghz and mean: You will wish you had a 1.8Ghz proc after Core Image thrashes your measly 9600!
hasthespaz said:
I should let this lie but Im a sucker
By and large the only blue screens I get on my XP system is when I have the background set it blue. I can count on one hand how many times I've BSoDed my system and 4 of them occurred last month with Second Life. The thing dicked the video driver something fierce. Thankfully a patch came out. If you think OS X doesnt crash I would suggest you do a search on Macrumors for Kernel Panic and see what shows up. No OS is perfect. Well most arent. (I know of a few that dont crash period.) Throwing out BSOD stopped being a relevant insult to Windows users with the introduction of Windows 2000 based off of NT. It would be like insulting Mac users for not having protected memory, something that stopped being true with OS X.
Machead III said:I linked it on the previous page, but nobody looked
My bad...I didn't read all 200-odd posts in this thread. lazy....
No true. I run Windows XP and I get a BSOD once every 2 or 3 months on my Dell. That's not so much the problem, but that the "hibernate" feature really only works flawlessly about 60% of the time. The other time it takes between 5 - 15 minutes for it boot (if it all) and "awaken" properly. About 30% of the time, my monitor won't even work until I unplug it and plug it back in again (turning it off/on doesn't do anything).SiliconAddict said:
macintel4me said:
Then you have a problem with your computer beyond Windows sucking. I'm telling you I've been running XP since 2001 on 3 laptops (Dell500Mhz/Toshiba800Mhz/ThinkPad1.4Ghz) and 2 desktops (Both Dells) and I don't crash. Period. End of story. But Im anal about making sure my drivers are up to date along with my BIOS. So. . . .
I've never had a problem with hibernation. Standby is another matter. Standby works but only for a few months. Things have stabilized since I got on a Centrino system but even now there are certain apps such as FireFox that occasionally keep the system from going to sleep. Note to MS: An app should never be able to override something you are telling the OS to do.
SiliconAddict said:
SiliconAddict is right. I've found that a lot of the problems that lead to BSOD are due either to some kind of hardware or RAM going bad. The RAM thing is really tricky as most people don't ever suspect RAM being bad (some have little way to test it). That and the power supply.
macintel4me said:
I have been plagued by sleep issues in a stock G4 slowsilver (AGP). Apparently, it is a motherboard issue. Apple is not infallible either and your sleep problem can be a dull/harware issue and Windoze may not have anything to do with it....In all faireness, even though I dislike microsuck as much as any on this forum
I know this has been asked but I'll ask again....
WHY would someone want to put Windows on a Mac ?
WHY would someone want to put Windows on a Mac ?
Peace said:I know this has been asked but I'll ask again....
WHY would someone want to put Windows on a Mac ?
Why do people climb Everest?
Because it is there!
I hack because I can.
Peace said:I know this has been asked but I'll ask again....
WHY would someone want to put Windows on a Mac ?
Because some people still need to use software that's Window's only. There's a massive amount of medical software that isn't available for the Mac. If there was THAT would boost Mac sales.