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Windows Virtualization on Intel Macs

Yummy, far preferable to Boot Camp, i can stay in OS X! now managed to download it but can't get a trial key!

15 minutes of XP yesterday from Boot Camp was more than enough to reinforce my love of Mac OS X 😉
 
Pressure on Apple

While this costs $49 and Apple's solution is Free, I can see how this might make Apple have to really bring out the big guns for Leopard. This will do ANY VERSION of Windows AND Linux. Amazing. I believe that Apple will do one better with Leopard... It'll run all PC software/Linux software and ... wait for it... MAC software! And all run WITHOUT the glitches. Sound works, Keyboards, video cams, etc... all work!

Have an old Mac game that you haven't played because Classic was damned to the information highway to hell? No problem with Leopard.

Nintendo's newest system (Revolution) will be able to play all Nintendo console games ever... why not Apple?
 
To those who are curious:

Parallels is DEFINITELY using VT.

And on the Mac mini, when they say it's using "software virtualization", they don't mean it's slow as molasses like Virtual PC on PowerPC. It's still incredibly fast. Just try it. Software virtualization is what all commercial desktop virtualization products (like VMware) have been doing up until now, anyway: they're still passing x86 calls more or less directly to the processor. VT allows this to be done even more directly and efficiently, and Parallels is the first desktop virtualization product to even use VT. So, Intel Mac mini owners, do yourself a favor and try this. You won't be disappointed.

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Dave Schroeder
University of Wisconsin - Madison
das@doit.wisc.edu
http://das.doit.wisc.edu
 
Can't get install to work on MacBook Pro

I can't seem to get the Parallels sw to install Windows XP Pro (using the same installation disk I used yesterday with Boot Camp). I tried /dev/rdisk1s0 and other possibilities to specify the DVD drive with no luck. I keep getting a "No boot device available" message in the console window.

Any advice would be appreciated. By the way, I'm trying to install on a MacBook Pro.
 
Won't Audio and Video Drivers Be Coming Soon For Parallels' Solution?

bretm said:
Yeah, game are great without the graphics acceleration or AUDIO!

Either way, a windows virus is useless on your Mac Partition and you can reinstall windows, parallels, whatever.
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But won't drivers for those be right around the corner? 😕
 
Electro Funk said:
Wow... I am beside myself.... Somebody pinch me...

I don't know what to say regarding the last 2 days....

Dual booting supported and today virtualization...😱
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Agreed.

Best. Birthday. Present. Ever.

😎
 
skochan said:
I can't seem to get the Parallels sw to install Windows XP Pro (using the same installation disk I used yesterday with Boot Camp). I tried /dev/rdisk1s0 and other possibilities to specify the DVD drive with no luck. I keep getting a "No boot device available" message in the console window.

Any advice would be appreciated. By the way, I'm trying to install on a MacBook Pro.
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Just make an ISO image of the XP installation disc using something like Disk Utility or Toast and point it at that. That's all you need to do. I and many others have already installed Windows XP and other OSes this way in Parallels.

The fact that the "Use real CD/DVD ROM" is grayed out might also be a small clue that using a real CD is unsupported by Parallels in the current beta. ;-)

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Dave Schroeder
University of Wisconsin - Madison
das@doit.wisc.edu
http://das.doit.wisc.edu
 
Ask Parallels

skochan said:
I can't seem to get the Parallels sw to install Windows XP Pro (using the same installation disk I used yesterday with Boot Camp). I tried /dev/rdisk1s0 and other possibilities to specify the DVD drive with no luck. I keep getting a "No boot device available" message in the console window.

Any advice would be appreciated. By the way, I'm trying to install on a MacBook Pro.
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Ask Parallels. macbeta@parallels.com

or the support site http://www.parallels.com/en/support/mac/ 🙄
 
daveschroeder said:
Yes, but even then it would have to be a file deletion risk.

<big snip>
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Dave, please re-read what my comment was in response to instead of jumping on me.

BTW, I agree with most of what you said. My issue was with the poster that I replied to that basically stated that nothing could happend outside of the sand box. That is incorrect. However, the likelyhood of that happening is very remote.

Then again, remember Hackers love a challenge! And to have a Winders virus that can jump and upload something that would affect the Mac OS side of the house (underlying Unix or Mac shell) would be a cool thing to do. So who knows, we may just see something like this in the future.

Am I going to loose sleep over it. Nope. But it could happen that is all I am saying.
 
Their Dowload site appears to have been slashdotted.. or MacRumored as it were

Can someone post a mirror .. I don't know if these guys would mind.. if they are reading this.. can they get a mirror set up?
 
Never Mind - Both BC and PW Are Isolated Safe From Viral Harm

GFLPraxis said:
You have no idea what you are talking about. Boot Camp has Windows residing it it's own partition seperate from everything else- it won't even be able to read the Mac partition. Parallel's solution and Boot Camp are equally likely to be infected; with Parallel's solution, you trash the file and start over, with Boot Camp's solution, you trash the partition and start over.
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Thanks for setting me straight. 😱
 
Funny how a couple MR newbies posted saying they just installed this and love it, and then there are more established members who haven't installed it saying it beats Apple's Boot Camp, and even call Apple's solution dangerous.

If I didn't know any better, I'd say we were being astroturfed.
 
mcadam said:
Wow - seems we are experiencing a virtual tsunami of windows on mac these days... Gawd damn I'm curious to see some benchmarks soon. If this will open up for all the lovely 3d and other design apps (Ooh Rhino, app of my dreams) that has never been made for a mac I'm a happy guy... but it does demand that it works, more or less, at native speed as promised.




It is impossible to use os x on a windows pc.

A
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sure it is forbidden to run osx on a pc but it completely possibile, thousands of people have installed osx on pc, incredible someone still don't believe that
 
Benchmark

I benchmarked OS X, Parrallels, and Boot camp on my Macbook pro 1.83 with 1.5 GRam


Action ,OSX ,Parrallel ,boot camp
Rendering (Single CPU): ,282 ,520 , 202
Rendering (Multiple CPU): ,516 ,--- ,486

Multiprocessor Speedup: ,1.83,___, 2.41

Shading (CINEMA 4D) ,328 ,891 ,229
Shading (OpenGL Soft Li) : ,774 ,595 ,949
Shading (OpenGL Hard Li) : ,1404 ,454 ,2181

OpenGL Speedup: 4.28 0.67 9.54
 
Boy, with how excited everyone seems to be getting about this, you'd think we were all at www.windowsrumors.com! 😛

While I'm happy for those that want/need to run windows on thier mac now that they'll have not just one but two different options, I also know that I won't be using either of them (I don't game, and I don't have any business needs).
 
And they go down....

Parallels site is down now to download the trial version. I registered hours ago and still no key, anybody received it and can share it? I am just too eager to see this.
 
petertheman123 said:
why would they call the new ibook a macbook? unless it is only a macbook and not a macbook pro. . .?
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Are you sure you're in the right thread?
off topic: I do agree that iBook sounds better than Macbook
 
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