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What exactly is there to delay the release? This technology has been around for years.

Because the White Apple branded one that replicates the same not useful technology has style and costs twice as much.
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Does it matter in your mind if it's "not wireless"? What would be the situation where you can sit back and say "yup.. that's wireless, I’ve won"?
The situation where you try to pick it up while it's charging and use it just like you can with a cord.
 
This argument was played out before by the Apple super fan's before.

First they were like, the 3.5" iPhone is perfect. I can use it 1 handed. Those Android phones are too big.
Then when the 4" phone came out, they were like, "The 4 inch iPhone is perfect. I can still use it one handed. Those Android phablets are ridiculous." (Ironically, Apple now has phablets and ridiculously large looking iPads.)

First the iFans were like, we don't need LTE, HSPA+ is just as fast (in some cases). Apple just doesn't need LTE.
Then when the iPhone got it, LTE was great.

First the iFans were like, "IPS LCD screens are the best. We don't want OLED screens." (Even though lightbleed has always been a major issue for nearly all Apple products using IPS LCD screens, from Macbooks to phones.)
Now that OLED has been hitting Apple products, OLED is perfectly acceptable and likely preferred.

I see the exact same thing happening with Wireless charging. All the people decrying it, will end up using it and then shut their mouths and realize the added convenience is actually worth it. Lots of hypocrites on here.
You are assuming that those are the same people. Do you have any evidence that shows they are the same?

I realize that it is an easy shot for Android fans to take, but is that shot based on reality?
 
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You are assuming that those are the same people. Do you have any evidence that shows they are the same?

I realize that it is an easy shot for Android fans to take, but is that shot based on reality?

I think it is more prevalent with apple fans to be in denial that sometimes others are better in terms of tech and implementation. Not sure why they have this inferiority complex.

You don't see Android fans giving excuses that a dual camera setup is irrelevant or not necessary. In fact they embrace it and eagerly waiting for it to come out for Android.
 
Many people on this thread aren't looking past the usage of this in their own homes and therefore do not see any benefit, which I understand.

As you say, the real benefit is when you're out and about and there are charging mats available instead of having to ask someone for a charger.
The only time I've seen charging ports available is at airports. I've never seen them at restaurants, or other places commonly frequented. While it may be convenient for the guests that need at is a small percentage (10-20%, I guess) for a large investment ($2-3,000) and maintenance ($200-300 per month) on a technology with a limited lifespan. Plus, my experience with restaurants is that you want to get people in, ordered, and out in as little time as possible. Table turnover means $$$, and people sitting at tables not ordering is a drain on profits, as you have to keep people there to take care of them, should they order something, which is a good thing, but people don't tend to order much after their initial meal.

For shopping, who wants to set their phone down and then shop, and forget it?

I guess what I'm saying is that your solution is good, but a better one may be a USB port so that people can use their wireless puck, micro-USB, lightning cords and put the onus of charging on them. There's a reason why we still use waiters instead of a computer and food servers at restaurants. It's simply easier and cheaper to have a person do all that work.

I don't want to come down as a nay-sayer, but I have a couple of patents in the works, and the review process to do this is like a "why would anyone want to do this?" on steroids. If you're 1/3 with idea -> patent, you're like a Major League Baseball player with a 333 average.
 
iPhone 7S: $ 1000 + charging station $ 275 + adapter for wired charging when traveling $ 35 + screen protector $ 25 + protective case $ 25 + Apple Care $ 225 + monthly cell phone plan
Yikes, I don't pay those prices! Slickdeals means I can get real name brand cases for $3-$5. Screen protectors $7 on Amazon. Sometimes I get Apple Care, sometimes I don't.

If the new iPhone uses the same wireless charger as my Samsung phones, I'm all set. If not, well I hope there's some kind of charger in the box.
 
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The only time I've seen charging ports available is at airports. I've never seen them at restaurants, or other places commonly frequented. While it may be convenient for the guests that need at is a small percentage (10-20%, I guess) for a large investment ($2-3,000) and maintenance ($200-300 per month) on a technology with a limited lifespan. Plus, my experience with restaurants is that you want to get people in, ordered, and out in as little time as possible. Table turnover means $$$, and people sitting at tables not ordering is a drain on profits, as you have to keep people there to take care of them, should they order something, which is a good thing, but people don't tend to order much after their initial meal.

For shopping, who wants to set their phone down and then shop, and forget it?

I guess what I'm saying is that your solution is good, but a better one may be a USB port so that people can use their wireless puck, micro-USB, lightning cords and put the onus of charging on them. There's a reason why we still use waiters instead of a computer and food servers at restaurants. It's simply easier and cheaper to have a person do all that work.

I don't want to come down as a nay-sayer, but I have a couple of patents in the works, and the review process to do this is like a "why would anyone want to do this?" on steroids. If you're 1/3 with idea -> patent, you're like a Major League Baseball player with a 333 average.

Providing USB ports can be good too, but then you're reliant on having a lightning cable available.

I've already seen cafes etc that have charging pads for customers and Apple adopting this technology could see that becoming more widespread.

You can pick them up fairly cheaply, certainly at a price that would not impact a restaurant chain much at all.

Smaller establishments would have to judge on a case by case basis as to whether it was worthwhile for them.
 
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This might be a way for restaurants to make extra money!

"I'd like to be seated at a charging table, please..."

"That'll be $5 sir..."
When I go into a Restaurant I put my phone on silent and into a pocket. Quaint I know but some of us are NOT addicted to the damm things.
Perhaps you could try it. You never know you might find it a pleasant change.
In fact I'd actually prefer to go to those new fangled places where phones don't work to eat. Then at least people talk to each other.
 
When I go into a Restaurant I put my phone on silent and into a pocket . . .

Agreed, I always put my phone onto silent when in a restaurant as it seems like the polite thing to do.

I would definitely put it down on an induction charging pad were there one available though.

:)
 
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Apple despise using standards and prefer to go down a proprietary route where possible. This is a control mechanism and is not always to the benefit of the customer.

I would love to see Apple embracing universal standards wherever possible and using their influence to help drive common technologies forward rather than be isolationist.
I can think of one: lightning cables

Versus micro-USB, lightning is a winner for charging. Maybe it's me, but the inventors of micro-USB have created a plug with a 50% chance of getting it right on the first try and made it 20-25% for me. I've tried foiling their evil plans by, at the last second, flipping it over, but they anticipated that, and I was foiled again.

Lightning, on the other hand, is inserted correctly 100% of the time.

I think this is how Apple operates: improvements that are deep, and thought out to the end user's experience.
 
I can think of one: lightning cables

Versus micro-USB, lightning is a winner for charging. Maybe it's me, but the inventors of micro-USB have created a plug with a 50% chance of getting it right on the first try and made it 20-25% for me. I've tried foiling their evil plans by, at the last second, flipping it over, but they anticipated that, and I was foiled again.

Lightning, on the other hand, is inserted correctly 100% of the time.

I think this is how Apple operates: improvements that are deep, and thought out to the end user's experience.

It always amazes me how people have such a different perspective on things as for me lightning cables are a perfect example of what I dislike about Apple's approach.

Apple are a hugely powerful company with a lot of influence and I would much rather they spent their time working with other companies to push for advances to common standards, that just makes far more sense to me.

If they were to change to this approach they could, of course, still work with others to help innovate and create new standards as technology allows.
 
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When I go into a Restaurant I put my phone on silent and into a pocket. Quaint I know but some of us are NOT addicted to the damm things.
Perhaps you could try it. You never know you might find it a pleasant change.
In fact I'd actually prefer to go to those new fangled places where phones don't work to eat. Then at least people talk to each other.
You do realize you’re taking part in a tech web forum, right?
 
Providing USB ports can be good too, but then you're reliant on having a lightning cable available.

I've already seen cafes etc that have charging pads for customers and Apple adopting this technology could see that becoming more widespread.

You can pick them up fairly cheaply, certainly at a price that would not impact a restaurant chain much at all.

Smaller establishments would have to judge on a case by case basis as to whether it was worthwhile for them.
I stand corrected, then.
 
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iPhone 7 Plus wired charging is about 60% slower (3.07 hours) than 2015 fast wireless charging for nearly equivalent Note 5 3000 mAh battery (1.92 hours).

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Plug it into a 12 Watt iPad charger and it will charge far faster. This data set is using the included 5 Watt charger, which is fine, but the fact is, you can 'fast charge' iPhones.
 
Nikola Tesla invented "wireless" charging, that is, a device like a light bulb or a battery could be electrified/charged from a distant power source, not directly connected. Granted, the system required specific distance, power and frequency requirements, aside from being cumbersome, it functioned. The purpose was to indicate that wireless charging is possible, and that was over a century ago.
Since then "charging" technology has improved. Inductive charging requires the device being charged to be in direct contact with the charging apparatus, wireless charging does not require direct contact, it merely needs to be in the vicinity of the charging apparatus.
 
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Just why have induction charging but cannot use this function until the accessory is available? It's not like the phone was suddenly just thought of in terms of design and features.

Lets see what happens in a few weeks time.
 



Apple's upcoming 2017 iPhone lineup is expected to include an inductive wireless charging feature enabled through a standalone charging accessory, and new information shared by Apple blogger John Gruber suggests the accessory might not ship alongside the iPhones in September.


Article Link: Wireless Charging Accessory Might Not Ship Until After New 2017 iPhones Launch

I wonder if they would consider driving the base station with power over Ethernet. I think that would have interesting implications. Just my two ¢¢.
 
Tim can't launch anything properly.
Nonsense. Today’s iphones are insanely huge and require millions and millions of units – just for launch day. the demand is off the charts, no other single product has had such high demand. they don’t fall off trees.
 
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Nikola Tesla invented "wireless" charging, that is, a device like a light bulb or a battery could be electrified/charged from a distant power source, not directly connected. Granted, the system required specific distance, power and frequency requirements, aside from being cumbersome, it functioned. The purpose was to indicate that wireless charging is possible, and that was over a century ago.
Since then "charging" technology has improved. Inductive charging requires the device being charged to be in direct contact with the charging apparatus, wireless charging does not require direct contact, it merely needs to be in the vicinity of the charging apparatus.

It was a wild claim from a wild scientist, and as far as I know has both history and physics against it. Please don't buy into this cult.
 
Indeed. What I don't understand is, if there is a market for iPhone docks (and Apple proudly sells iPhone docks in multiple colors), inductive charging would basically give you the advantage of a dock plus more, because now you wouldn't need to carefully aim on the little lightning connector each time and be careful not to scratch or damage the surroundings of the port while doing so.

Exactly. It's just all about how you frame things. People are caught up on the buzzword "wireless" and lose all objectivity.
 
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