Wireless Charging Accessory Might Not Ship Until After New 2017 iPhones Launch

[lsutigerfan1976]

If they sell it for over $1000 WITHOUT the wireless charging AND no Touch ID, I'm not saying it will fail, but it would be EXTREME arrogance towards their customers, but nothing from Tim Cook surprises me, so I wouldn't doubt it.
Although it might be quite comical in the keynote, Tim Cook trying to sell the patented Steve Jobs LESS is MORE sales pitch. EPIC FAIL on that. LOL

This is what I said was crazy. Sell an expensive iPad Pro. Can’t throw in a simple pencil. Sell a $1000 phone, and make them buy a wireless charger separately. I know ppl will argue that this is how they make money. But seriously? Just include this kind of stuff with the device.

 

[DevNull0]

Knowing Apple, they will charge $200 for their branded wireless charger.

And the cable to connect the wireless charger to a power source will be sold separately from the charger.

 

[Born Again]

My iPhone has inductive charging with a case but it's really slow

 

[KeanosMagicHat]

There is a reason why Qi has not been used by Apple before, I would really like to know why, but I dont. Qi is an inductive charging standard defined by the Wireless Power Consortium standards body, and Apple is actually in the steering board of the consortium, and has been that for a long while now. So there is definitely a reason why they did not incorporate it before, and I do not think they are incorporating it now. Im almost asure they are either working on a new true wireless standard together with the WPC standards body, or making their own proprietary standard. If they would use Qi as it is today, they could have done so years ago. The standard is also open, so there are no licensing fees holding back Apple of using it.

Apple despise using standards and prefer to go down a proprietary route where possible. This is a control mechanism and is not always to the benefit of the customer.

I would love to see Apple embracing universal standards wherever possible and using their influence to help drive common technologies forward rather than be isolationist.

 

[mib1800]

If Apple provided true wireless charging, it would be a break thru in science.

Then you don't want to be in the vicinity when the phone is charging as it will charge the phone and at the same time make a barbeque out of you.

 

[trifid]

This is not wireless charging, it is inductive charging and it still has wires. Stop calling it wireless.

By your rationale wifi is not wireless because it has wires, wifi router is connected to modem, right?

I never touch a wire when using inductive charging dock, of course it's wireless.

 

[skellener]

Welcome to Tim Cook's Apple.

 

[onepoint]

Quick release wheels on a bike? Really? Uh, so I don't have to pull out my wrench, that's why. If a 1 second motion of pulling a plug out of your phone is too much for you, then you've got 1st world problems. Oh, and you can't just "lay it down where ever" unless that where ever is on a the inductive charging station, just like your apple watch.

As for the car cradle, Tim himself would say that's a non issue because you get all day battery life and should charge at night... oh wait, or was that for the apple watch... no it must be the Macbook Pro. At this point I can't remember but he'd say, if you don't get all day, you're using it wrong.
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I'd say people don't want to pay for a feature that's a gimmick at this point.

I don't view it as a gimmick whatsoever. Nor do the automakers, furniture retailers, etc. that provide the functionality. To each his or her own.

 

[Cigsm]

Wait you think AirPods are over priced? LOLOLOL

I urge you to finally totally wireless pods that do everything AirPods do for cheaper

If it costs anywhere near Apple AirPods, forget it.

 

[subjonas]

I want to be able to lay my phone down where ever and have it charge without putting a cable in every time.
My no 1 use is putting the phone in a cradle in the car, I don't want to have to plug it in, I want the cradle to be the charger.

Exactly. Between home (I typically lay my phone on my dresser with my keys and wallet), the car (vent mount), and work (stand on my desk), I plug and unplug my lightning cable 20 times a day at minimum. Why wouldn't I want to cut out that chore? Even if it's not actual wireless charging, it's an optional way to charge that is of some to potentially major benefit. Why is this hard for people to understand?

 

[trifid]

Exactly. Between home (I typically lay my phone on my dresser with my keys and wallet), the car (vent mount), and work (stand on my desk), I plug and unplug my lightning cable 20 times a day at minimum. Why wouldn't I want to cut out that chore? Even if it's not actual wireless charging, it's an optional way to charge that is of some to potentially major benefit. Why is this hard for people to understand?

Indeed. What I don't understand is, if there is a market for iPhone docks (and Apple proudly sells iPhone docks in multiple colors), inductive charging would basically give you the advantage of a dock plus more, because now you wouldn't need to carefully aim on the little lightning connector each time and be careful not to scratch or damage the surroundings of the port while doing so.

 

[9594864]

Then you don't want to be in the vicinity when the phone is charging as it will charge the phone and at the same time make a barbeque out of you.

Except that it wouldn't and the reason for that is something far beyond your comprehension of electromagnetic radiation.

 

[Lloydbm41]

I bet that charging wirelessly would be hella slow for the first 2 models.

How many times does this have to be mentioned in this thread? The S8 and S8+ charge faster wirelessly, than the iPhone charges plugged in. And the iPhone has a battery nearly half the size of the S8.

Apple will utilize 15W wireless charging to ensure a fast charge up. Don't worry, Apple will copy what LG, Samsung, and several other OEM's have already done. And Apple enthusiasts will claim Apple invented the tech within 2 years, calling it magical and the greatest thing since sliced bread.

 

[BorderingOn]

Mac power supplies are about 70% efficient so -10% for the convenience of wireless is very reasonable considering you no longer have recurring expenses to repair your lightning port or replace cables.

Not sure about that. Five years ago the iMac PSU was 90%. Most Windows PCs are that or higher now. I’m too lazy to search for latest Macs.

https://www.apple.com/environment/pdf/products/archive/2012/imac_21.5inch_oct2012.pdf

 

[Eman619]

if there is no touch id in the display of this iPhone why would I even consider that wireless charger

Galaxy S9 it is for me

 

[9594864]

How many times does this have to be mentioned in this thread? The S8 and S8+ charge faster wirelessly, than the iPhone charges plugged in. And the iPhone has a battery nearly half the size of the S8.

Apple will utilize 15W wireless charging to ensure a fast charge up. Don't worry, Apple will copy what LG, Samsung, and several other OEM's have already done. And Apple enthusiasts will claim Apple invented the tech within 2 years, calling it magical and the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Since Apple is using RF-based charging from Energous, I don't think anyone can claim that Apple copied anyone, rather they awaited the truly useful wireless charging that can be used at several feet from the transmitting device. Albeit, it can also be used on contact with a transmitting device, which will be incredibly cheap for most customers, while the HomePod will be $349 to charge at 3-5ft range. In 2018 or 2019 there will be a 'Apple Home' or 'Home' which will be larger, have more features than HomePod, and charge at 10-15ft.

 

[WatchFromAfar]

my philips sonicare toothbrush has had wireless charging for almost 6 years now. why so late to the game Apple?

Because charging using a physical wire is faster.

 

[RadioGaGa1984]

At least they were smart enough to not remove the charging port this time. I still can't find a pair of AirPods in stores anywhere.

Should've ordered them 6 weeks ago then you would have had them.

 

[WatchFromAfar]

I think what Act3 is talking about in wireless charging is the type done by companies like Wattup. That tech can charge your device up to 15 feet away. YouTube has a number of videos on it. Some of the videos are 3 years old. The tech has been around for a while but has not found its way into phones. I think those who know about it are frustrated that it has not been adopted by the industry.
I won't get into the reasons I don't think it has caught on, but my point is Act3 wants that type of wireless charging.

Yes it exists but it's soooo slow compared to a physical connection. With the phone industry going in the direction of fast charging why take a step back just so people can claim "look Ma, no hands"?
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If Apple provided true wireless charging, it would be a break thru in science.

Best post on the subject; someone who realizes Apple isn't a magic unicorn.
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Hopefully Apple is creating a common standard for inductive/wireless charging for all the devices, also the Apple Watch, Magic Mouse, keyboard, case for AirPods and so on.

What are you on about? There is already a standard that the entire industry uses, Qi charging. Why are you hoping Apple bucks the trend by introducing another "standard"?

But Apple won't conform. If Apple adopted the industry standard Qi charging then you could use any Qi charging station from any manufacturer. Apple wants you to buy the Apple charging station from Apple.
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My iPhone has inductive charging with a case but it's really slow

No it does not.

 

[hotgril]

If it were for MacRumors rumors, everything points that the next iPhone would be a total disaster, I guess this is what sells "clicks", but don't worry, just like every year Apple delivers and this year won't be the exception.

Not if you have a new MacBook Pro and a new iPhone and have to use adaptors to connect them.

 

[WatchFromAfar]

How many times does this have to be mentioned in this thread? The S8 and S8+ charge faster wirelessly, than the iPhone charges plugged in. And the iPhone has a battery nearly half the size of the S8.

I'm not sure how they measure up to an iPhone but this article states, that while fast, they still don't match being charged by a physical cable.
https://www.androidcentral.com/how-much-faster-are-samsungs-fast-wireless-chargers

 

[Lloydbm41]

Since Apple is using RF-based charging from Energous, I don't think anyone can claim that Apple copied anyone, rather they awaited the truly useful wireless charging that can be used at several feet from the transmitting device. Albeit, it can also be used on contact with a transmitting device, which will be incredibly cheap for most customers, while the HomePod will be $349 to charge at 3-5ft range. In 2018 or 2019 there will be a 'Apple Home' or 'Home' which will be larger, have more features than HomePod, and charge at 10-15ft.

Well, in 2020 Samsung and LG will have the ability to charge an entire house and all its appliances from a satellite in orbit.

We are talking about vaporware from the future now, right? You see, I can imagine all kinds of cool stuff and make up timetables and have not one shred of evidence to back it up too.

P.S. The tech that Energous is using has been proven to be utterly useless more than a few feet from the base station. It would take roughly 10 days for a phone to get a complete charge from 10-15 feet away if the phone were in sleep mode and would still lose a charge if in use. It is also hampered by tons of regulatory and safety issues that we likely won't see actual use for at least another 5 to 10 years.

 

[Les Kern]

So many jumping to conclusions about an unreleased product. I hope most of you are wrong. I just bought a crap-load of AAPL.

 

[Lloydbm41]

I'm not sure how they measure up to an iPhone but this article states, that while fast, they still don't match being charged by a physical cable.
https://www.androidcentral.com/how-much-faster-are-samsungs-fast-wireless-chargers

Ironically, your article (from last year) utilizes a 10watt wireless charger that charges a Samsung s7 phone in roughly 90 minutes (still faster than an iPhone 7 plugged in) and that isn't even as fast as the current 15watt wireless chargers.

 

[mi7chy]

I'm not sure how they measure up to an iPhone but this article states, that while fast, they still don't match being charged by a physical cable.

iPhone 7 Plus wired charging is about 60% slower (3.07 hours) than 2015 fast wireless charging for nearly equivalent Note 5 3000 mAh battery (1.92 hours).