with what app is it created?

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  1. zoran macrumors 68030

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    I want to know with what application might a website be created with. Is that possible checking from the browser?
     
  2. tobefirst macrumors 68040

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    Sometimes it is possible to tell based on "View Source."
     
  3. zoran thread starter macrumors 68030

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    In that case, what exactly am I looking for?
     
  4. jtara, Dec 22, 2016
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    jtara macrumors 65816

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    You'll need to know what you are looking for. If you've used a particular tool before, you will recognize it. Perhaps embedded comments, a particular coding style, some meta tags, included scripts, etc. There MIGHT be tell-tale signs, IF you know what you are looking for.

    You shouldn't assume, though, that a site has been created with some particular "app". Most web developers use a variety of tools. Some pages might be created dynamically, from information in a database, along with some template language and server programming language. Other pages might be made with some "web page creator" or just a text editor.

    The most common and best tool for creating web pages? A good text editor, one with features and plugins that help with writing web pages. There is nothing that you can look for that will tell you what text editor was used. However, a lack of bloat might suggest that SOME text editor was used, rather than some WYSIWYG point-and-click drag-and-drop "web page creator". They almost all, without fail, create big bloated messes of incomprehensible markup and code.
     
  5. dwig macrumors 6502

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    You can't tell about the "site" from View Source, though you might be able to tell what app, or at least one of the apps, used to create that particular "page". After sampling every page on the site you might find a trend. It's also possible that the site in question is generated on-the-fly by a content management system (e.g. Wordpress, ...) and what you'll find might be a lead to the templates used and possibly which CMS is the engine behind everything.
     
  6. zoran thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Okay let's make it a bit more specific. With what apps were these two websites A & B created with, are there specific templates used? If you would want to create something similar how would you begin?
     
  7. olup macrumors 6502

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    The example byou linked to were created with squarespace and is a template, as can be seen in the source code in the head section. The first seems to be a custom build using bootstrap as a foundation for its layout. As for designing something like this, it depends what the client wants. The possibilities are endless.
     
  8. zoran thread starter macrumors 68030

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    What exactly is squarespace and what are its limitations?
     
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    B is clearly created by Squarespace, as a large compressed script embedded directly in the page (which is an odd practice, but I guess nothing wrong with...) attributes it to Squarespace.

    A has no clear indication, though, and I don't see any clear similarity to B, other than appearance. Olup, what did you see that linked A to Squarespace?

    Squarespace is a "site builder" - a kind of CMS (Content Management System). It can be a good choice if your site fits ones of their templates. It seems better than most of the lot, and does have plenty of "escape hatches" that could be used by an experienced developer, while at the same time making it fairly easy for a non-developer to build a simple site.

    The biggest disadvantage is that you are essentially locked-in to their universe. The more you build a site with Squarespace, the more you are locked-in. There is only limited export from the site - as far as I can tell, you can export products and blogs.
     
  11. olup macrumors 6502

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    Edited my post accordingly, while I wrote it ;), A is something custom made
     
  12. zoran thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Is it free to work with?

    Most of the lot? What others are out there?

    What do you mean by escape hatches?

    I don't understand the disadvantages, can you be more specific please?
     
  13. ee13lbp macrumors member

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    You guys are being way too technical for OP. It's clear she doesn't have any prior experience or knowledge of web development.

    Squarespace is free and would suit your needs.
     
  14. DeltaMac macrumors 604

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    Hmm.... Not quite free, you get a 14-day free trial, which should help you find out if it suits your needs, after that trial, then you pay a subscription, depending on your requirements, that starts at $14/month.
    https://support.squarespace.com/hc/en-us/articles/206536827
     
  15. zoran thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Is there something free i can experiment with that can achieve a result just like the A & B examples?
     
  16. jtara, Dec 26, 2016
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    You sure are going about this in a strange way. It's like seeing a house you like, wanting to build a similar house, and you start by asking what tools the builder used!

    Using the same brand of saw and drill aren't going to help you much in building a similar house, if you don't know anything about building a house. Nor is it going to help you if you are delusional about the effort needed to build a house, and think that it will happen by magic and take almost no time, if only you use the same tools as the builder. And, oh, you've also seen an informercial about some magic tools, that will allow you to build your own house for free in just no time! YES, you want to use the MAGIC TOOLS, not the ones that most builders use, and certainly don't want to take any time or effort to learn how to build a house! All, that, and you want the magic tools for FREE!

    It could happen! But you may have to wait for the upcoming Dreamworks Felix the Cat remake. Perhaps there is a magic web designer in his Magic Bag of Tricks! ;) But you will have to pay the price of a movie ticket, or else wait for it to come on broadcast TV.

    Yes.

    A text editor and a browser. Both come free with your OS.

    Though, I'd suggest at least a separately-downloaded, free, programming-oriented editor.

    As well, you will need to use the browser to look at instructional sites, and teach yourself HTML, CSS, and Javascript. And perhaps some server-side technology, such as PHP, Rails, node.js, Python, etc. etc. (take your choice).

    I believe there are "free" "site-builders", similar to SquareSpace. But they will load your site up with ads that you have no control over and that the host gets revenue from. You can't expect such a service to really be free. And, frankly, they are probably all just lousy, inadequate, truncated copy-cats of SquareSpace, Wix, etc.

    Instead of asking what tools were used, you should explain what it is you are trying to create, and ask what you need to learn to do something similar. Explain what it is - don't just point to some example site and ask how to make a page like this - it's a rather meaningless exercise.

    For example, you haven't explained - do you want to make some kind of ecommerce site (are you selling something) or do you just like the grid layout? Do you need a database of products that will be fetched from a server? Do you need an ordering/shopping-cart system and payment ability?

    Frankly, if you know nothing, you either need to hire somebody, or be willing to spending an awful lot of time and effort learning. You will not find something that will do it for you magically, let alone for free. (You will find plenty that will CLAIM to do it magically, and will charge you for it!)

    If you are willing to spend a great deal of time and effort learning, I would spend it learning the fundamental technologies - at least HTML, CSS, Javascript - rather than wasting your time learning the intricacies of a closed system like SquareSpace.

    As for "making a site like A", you can do it by literally copying the A site files and then hacking away at them in your text editor.

    BTW, my preference is SublimeText. But it is not free.
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    Use the Google, Luke! I mentioned another popular one - Wix. There are many.

    The ability to bust-out of their little drag-and-drop universe and integrate your own custom HTML, CSS, and Javascript, when you find that their pre-packaged solutions don't exactly fit your need.

    The ability to "export" your work is limited. If you decide you don't like your host, and want to move somewhere else, it will be difficult. You can't just move the site as-is, as it is built in such a way that it is very dependent on their proprietary bits and pieces.
     
  17. cyb3rdud3 macrumors 6502a

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    well said jtara, professionals hire professionals is my moto.
     
  18. zoran thread starter macrumors 68030

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    jtara you really put a wall to my dreams now! :(
     
  19. Jimmyss macrumors member

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    I am not sure but you can check it from Inspect element option on Mozilla.
     

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