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Woman in Labor Issued Traffic Ticket
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skunk
macrumors G4
Not for being in labour, there isn't. You will probably find this out in due course.
And people make discretionary judgements all the time. We are not robots.
dukebound85
macrumors Core
which really gives no excuse
im not talking about being in labor as thats not the law being broken
yea i make discretionary judgments but not those that endanger others on the road, hence why there are laws concerning driving in the first place
would it be permissible for a husband to speed through a school zone since his wife is going into labour? no. why? because it puts others in danger. same situation here except it puts other drivers in possible danger
Sun Baked
macrumors G5
Probably all the other hospitals they past in their 30 mile journey were out of network.
Edit: though driving like an idiot to another city/town and passing all the hospitals during your "emergency" just to make sure your kids are born in the same hospital could be the winning excuse.
Big-TDI-Guy
macrumors 68030
No bikes, scooters, pedestrians or horses allowed on rt2. There are signs for it. 🙂
Like I said, it's an old highway.
Like I said, it's an old highway.
Tilpots
macrumors 601
If my wife were pregnant (and she is) I'd drive on sidewalks, over pedestrians, thru bikers or anything else in my way to make sure my wife and child were safe. Screw the ticket, the cops, the lawyers, or the jail time if it that what it takes to keep my family safe. Some of you may not agree and that's fine, just take care not to get in my way.😉
redwarrior
macrumors 603
Tilpots
macrumors 601
EricNau
Moderator emeritus
If you viewed safety as the utmost importance, you wouldn't be driving a motorcycle.
Big-TDI-Guy
macrumors 68030
Tilpots
macrumors 601
I dunno. Seems like we'd both be headed in the same direction? 😉
Point is, people are going to do whatever it takes to protect the ones they love. We can all second guess their decisions, but if this lady felt the need to break some laws to ensure the safety of her child, I'm sure she'd do it all over again.
dukebound85
macrumors Core
at the expense of my safety? no thanks. if you did run over me, id take you for everything you had no joke....if i happened to live due to your selfish actions
your wife's need for a hospital does not superseed my need to have my life not endangered by driving maniacs breaking traffic laws like yourself. sorry
excuse me? you are the one saying youd run over people and drive on designated sidewalks
how can you encourage someone who says they would have no issue breaking traffic laws and running over others to make sure his wife gets to a hospital
i dont think its a coincidence that motorcyclists are overall the most attentive/careful drivers out there...
Tilpots
macrumors 601
That's right, if you happened to live. And as I said before, nothing would stop me from doing everything possible to protect my family. If you had a family, you'd realize this is a no-brainer.
Yes, it does. If only becasue I'm behind the wheel. My choices, you're consequnces. That's simply an everyday fact of life.
lol. Reminded me of this
"The most careful/attentive drivers out there" you say?
Source
Motorcycle safety rule #1:
Don't ride a motorcycle if you want to stay safe.
redwarrior
macrumors 603
I have been pregnant, in labor, in a car, doing 110 mph.🙄
However, in this case, they were not driving unsafely. They were not running over people. Two public safety officers had already told them to proceed with caution. There is no evidence showing that they were doing anything other than using the emergency lane for the purpose of which it was intended.
dukebound85
macrumors Core
and nothing would stop me from protecting my life. laws are there to protect the community as a whole, and not meant to be broken to cater to your "needs"
if you hit me, youd be feeling the consequences for the rest of your life at least financially
so? doesnt mean youre right as its illegal to be going that fast PERIOD. as such, prepare to suffer the consequences of the law if you get pulled over and not rely on some story to sway the cop🙄
dont like the law, get it changed. simple as that. and right now, there isnt any exception to break traffic laws as far as i know😎
tillpots said he would have no issue running over people on sidewalks. thats what im refeering to, that idiotic mindset
by the way, it was a breakdown lane. meaning a lane where cars pull over if they are experienceing trouble. not a lane to drive in🙄
redwarrior
macrumors 603
Who cares what the law is when lives are at stake? I don't. Laws are to protect people and cannot always be followed. I would much rather have gotten a ticket than to go through the trama of not getting to the hospital in time. That is a no-brainer.
Apparently two public safety officers approved of the way that the "breakdown lane" was being used.
dukebound85
macrumors Core
thats right, laws are meant to protect people. the safety of everyone else on the road needs to be protected over an individual needs when its that individual who is endangering everyone else
if lives were really at stake, then why did they not go to the nearest hospital again?
exactly. if it was that big of a rush, have the cop rush you there. beauty about cop cars is that people look out for them with their sirens and lights. same with ambulances..
i dont expect other civilian cars to be driving recklessly on the roads and if they do, they need to be cited. you cant argue otherwise
redwarrior
macrumors 603
dukebound85
macrumors Core
of course it was. using the breakdown lane as a driving lane endangers others that may have to use it
a breakdown lane is not a lane to be driving in
atszyman
macrumors 68020
I don't understand why either of the first officers didn't offer a ride/escort, or at least radio ahead. You'd think the first officer would have flagged the car as someone in labor so that they could avoid any delays from future stops.
Driving in the breakdown lane, provided you're not zipping along at 50 MPH or more is probably not a massive danger to others as long as you're not going too fast to stop for a car that might happen to be in the breakdown lane.
I'm split on this, I have about 20 different routes I can take to the hospital where my wife's OB works, if I hit traffic on the highway I'm more likely to try one of those routes and deal with traffic lights than I am to drive on the shoulder. Why were the insistent on using the highway, why not an alternate route?
Of course the third officer may have just been thinking, "If Sarah Palin can fly 14 hours back to Alaska with at least one airport layover after her water broke, why can't these people deal with sitting in rush hour for a few hours."
Tilpots
macrumors 601
Dukebound,
Hypothetical situation for you... You're at a stop light on a barren stretch of road, the light is red, not another car around for miles. A large, evil man with a knife approaches your motorcycle and tells you to give him the bike. Do you floor it and save your life, or do you let the man stab you becasue you're a law abiding citizen and you don't want to run a red light?
Hypothetical situation for you... You're at a stop light on a barren stretch of road, the light is red, not another car around for miles. A large, evil man with a knife approaches your motorcycle and tells you to give him the bike. Do you floor it and save your life, or do you let the man stab you becasue you're a law abiding citizen and you don't want to run a red light?
OutThere
macrumors 603
Tilpots
macrumors 601
I was being a bit over the top, but the point is that I will keep my family safe at all costs. Wouldn't you? 😕
EricNau
Moderator emeritus
That's very careless on your part. In my area, I'm aware of unmarked, official vehicles that need to circumvent traffic to report to accident scenes. No lights, no siren, no markings; just a plain white van weaving in and out of traffic, driving in emergency lanes, and along the side of the road in the dirt... legally.
But again, there's no reason to believe this car was driving recklessly or putting other's safety at risk. Until you can prove it, your argument isn't valid.
There are always going to be exceptions to the law, that's why we have judges.
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