Apps WorkOutDoors: New workout features

[MitzEclipse]

Hi @cfc sometimes when I’m running I receive a pop up saying authorize (or authenticate?) your appleID. Basically it’s asking for my Apple password.

I’m on a regular AW10 on latest OS and phone is not tethered. I do not have a cellular watch.

I haven’t been able to insert my password as it’s very long (password manager) and my phone is not with me when running hence I cannot when I see the screen.

Pop up is coming from the OS. Any idea why? I don’t see this when using the native workout app fyi.

 

[cfc]

Hi @cfc sometimes when I’m running I receive a pop up saying authorize (or authenticate?) your appleID. Basically it’s asking for my Apple password.

I’m on a regular AW10 on latest OS and phone is not tethered. I do not have a cellular watch.

I haven’t been able to insert my password as it’s very long (password manager) and my phone is not with me when running hence I cannot when I see the screen.

Pop up is coming from the OS. Any idea why? I don’t see this when using the native workout app fyi.

WorkOutDoors would never ask for your Apple ID so it must be watchOS that is requesting that.

 

[MitzEclipse]

WorkOutDoors would never ask for your Apple ID so it must be watchOS that is requesting that.

It is WatchOS asking that. But why is this triggered when I’m using WOD?

 

[cfc]

It is WatchOS asking that. But why is this triggered when I’m using WOD?

I don't know. I can't remember anyone else ever mentioning it so it may just be a coincidence.

 

[worker73]

Hi there,

Quick heads up.....

I'm still utilizing test flight and updated yesterday.

Took a walk last night and WOD did not grab my heart rate even though all permissions on turned on.
Grabbed all the other stats, just seemed to not get the HR.

 

[Nameisjoey]

@cfc what's the chances of implementing a feature allowing users to edit treadmill distance after a run before saving? Similar to what you can do on Garmin, Coros etc?

It's been missing on the apple watch for years and have no idea why it hasn't been implemented yet. For someone like myself I need it, I work in the middle of the ocean for half the year and can only use a treadmill to run on. It is very frustrating after every run to see 5 miles on the treadmill but the watch says 3.5! All stats etc then are useless in health and supporting apps.

Thanks for an otherwise spot on app

I also would love to see this feature. It's pretty wild that no one has attempted this either, such a common feature on other platforms.

For what it's worth, if you look into the Runn treadmill sensor, it's a great option. I just got one and it's much more accurate for pacing and distance compared to watch only, as it uses reflective markings and optical sensors to measure the actual belt speed. I believe this is even more accurate than the treadmill itself. I had an inkling my new (to me) treadmill was a little faster than what it was reporting i.e. 6mph felt more like 6.2mph and the Runn sensor proved me right. It pairs to the watch via work out doors and provides distance and current speed straight into the watch. Just don't use it for cadence, I would suggest continuing to pull that data from the watch itself.

Speaking of the Runn sensor, it can also provide % grade but it doesn't seem to be set up to utilize that data in WO (@cfc). Is there a way to get that to work? The device itself will show changes to the % grade in its calibration app but WO only seems to pull Pace, Distance, and Cadence from it. It would be sweet to be able to include that data in the workout so we can still have grade/elevation in treadmill workouts.

 

[cichykot]

I'd appreciate larger numbers. I don't know which models users are using, but for the past three years of AWultra and since version 10, we've had really larger screens, and the numbers could be much larger.
I especially struggle during intervals to see what's written on the AW3 and what the next step is.
The text there takes up maybe 20% of the screen, and there's plenty of space.
Another issue is readability. I know it looks nice in color, but in my opinion, the next steps displayed on the screen should only be white.
The connected fields could also have much larger numbers, because now they also take up about 60% of the screen.

Secondly, I've mentioned this a few times and I'll mention it again.
I don't even import workouts from Fit anymore; setting them up in the program is quick enough, but more available workout types—recovery, easy, endurance, LT Supra LT Vo2max, sprint, etc.—would definitely make planning sessions easier.
Thank you and best regards.

 

[cfc]

Hi there,

Quick heads up.....

I'm still utilizing test flight and updated yesterday.

Took a walk last night and WOD did not grab my heart rate even though all permissions on turned on.
Grabbed all the other stats, just seemed to not get the HR.

If they are all enabled then you may be experiencing a rare bug with iOS/watchOS where the watch seems to lose the permission. To fix this switch all of the permissions off, then reboot both the iPhone and the watch, and then switch them all on again. This procedure nudges iOS into sending them to the watch again.

 

[cfc]

I also would love to see this feature. It's pretty wild that no one has attempted this either, such a common feature on other platforms.

For what it's worth, if you look into the Runn treadmill sensor, it's a great option. I just got one and it's much more accurate for pacing and distance compared to watch only, as it uses reflective markings and optical sensors to measure the actual belt speed. I believe this is even more accurate than the treadmill itself. I had an inkling my new (to me) treadmill was a little faster than what it was reporting i.e. 6mph felt more like 6.2mph and the Runn sensor proved me right. It pairs to the watch via work out doors and provides distance and current speed straight into the watch. Just don't use it for cadence, I would suggest continuing to pull that data from the watch itself.

Speaking of the Runn sensor, it can also provide % grade but it doesn't seem to be set up to utilize that data in WO (@cfc). Is there a way to get that to work? The device itself will show changes to the % grade in its calibration app but WO only seems to pull Pace, Distance, and Cadence from it. It would be sweet to be able to include that data in the workout so we can still have grade/elevation in treadmill workouts.

The app only supports the standard running pace and distance Bluetooth protocol, which I don't think includes the incline for treadmills. There is a separate Fitness Machine protocol that is designed for indoor machines which may do, but the app does not support that protocol. Sorry about that. Maybe one day.

 

[cfc]

I'd appreciate larger numbers. I don't know which models users are using, but for the past three years of AWultra and since version 10, we've had really larger screens, and the numbers could be much larger.
I especially struggle during intervals to see what's written on the AW3 and what the next step is.
The text there takes up maybe 20% of the screen, and there's plenty of space.
Another issue is readability. I know it looks nice in color, but in my opinion, the next steps displayed on the screen should only be white.
The connected fields could also have much larger numbers, because now they also take up about 60% of the screen.

Secondly, I've mentioned this a few times and I'll mention it again.
I don't even import workouts from Fit anymore; setting them up in the program is quick enough, but more available workout types—recovery, easy, endurance, LT Supra LT Vo2max, sprint, etc.—would definitely make planning sessions easier.
Thank you and best regards.

I gradually improve readability for the many different instances that text is displayed on the screen but there are a lot of places that test is displayed. For example the next version will make more use of space for merged fields. Part of the problem is that sometimes it makes sense to vary the text size to fit the space and sometimes it does not.

I plan to improve interval schedules sometime next year. I will make sure that they support all the interval types that are possible in FIT files, but I don't think that is the case for most of the ones you list, so they are less likely. I may add the ability to create custom types though.

 

[cichykot]

@cfc Ian, I personally think that importing from fit is unnecessary if you add more non-standard ranges, and that's what I meant by listing them.
Thank you

 

[worker73]

If they are all enabled then you may be experiencing a rare bug with iOS/watchOS where the watch seems to lose the permission. To fix this switch all of the permissions off, then reboot both the iPhone and the watch, and then switch them all on again. This procedure nudges iOS into sending them to the watch again.

Will do, thank you!! 👍

 

[cichykot]

@cfc The new beta is great. The numbers are much more visible. I haven't noticed any bugs (but I only use it for structured workouts). I don't use the navigation at all. Another thing I've noticed is that workouts are now saving much faster. Thanks for the great work.

 

[cfc]

@cfc The new beta is great. The numbers are much more visible. I haven't noticed any bugs (but I only use it for structured workouts). I don't use the navigation at all. Another thing I've noticed is that workouts are now saving much faster. Thanks for the great work.

Glad the tweak to increase font sizes in merged fields has helped.

The time taken to save a workout is controlled by watchOS so maybe they have improved things. There have been a couple of reports recently that it was slow to save workouts, so maybe that is something that they have now fixed.

Thanks for testing the app!

 

[TheMixam]

Hi, a feature request: being able to save filter presets.

My use case would be that I track shoe mileage by putting the name of the shoe in the name of the workout, having a list of filter presets would make checking the mileage for different shoes way easier.

 

[Dovales]

Hi, could it be possible to map buttons accordingly to activity type? In my use case, I would have different configurations for my exercises. I know I can set it up before (or during) each workout, including on the Apple Watch itself, but it is a bit inconvenient.

 

[cfc]

Hi, a feature request: being able to save filter presets.

My use case would be that I track shoe mileage by putting the name of the shoe in the name of the workout, having a list of filter presets would make checking the mileage for different shoes way easier.

I may preserve filter options in the future but in terms of shoe mileage I think it is something that Apple should do so that they can track it across different apps. However they have not added it and several people have asked for it, so it is on my list of features to add.

However it is not high on my list because it is already possible by using HealthFit, which includes gear tracking functionality. WorkOutDoors stores all workouts in Apple's Health system, and HealthFit allows you to associate gear with each workout:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/healthfit/id1202650514?mt=8

HealthFit also does much much more than that, so is worth getting anyway.

 

[cfc]

Hi, could it be possible to map buttons accordingly to activity type? In my use case, I would have different configurations for my exercises. I know I can set it up before (or during) each workout, including on the Apple Watch itself, but it is a bit inconvenient.

Making the shortcuts activity-specific is on my to-do list but very rarely requested (which surprises me) and so not high on the list. Sorry about that.

 

[coachjeffroc]

I visited the tip jar again today. I had an absolutely fantastic marathon cycle, and WorkOutDoorslets me do everything that I wanna do to maximize my training. My race was an absolute disaster, but it had nothing to do with the app ha ha. In fact thanks to WorkOutDoors I have a permanent record of that disaster in excruciating detail!

Anyway, next on the table is a 4-month 10km race training cycle. I’ll visit the tip jar again after race day.

Much appreciated.

 

[cfc]

I visited the tip jar again today. I had an absolutely fantastic marathon cycle, and WorkOutDoorslets me do everything that I wanna do to maximize my training. My race was an absolute disaster, but it had nothing to do with the app ha ha. In fact thanks to WorkOutDoors I have a permanent record of that disaster in excruciating detail!

Anyway, next on the table is a 4-month 10km race training cycle. I’ll visit the tip jar again after race day.

Much appreciated.

Glad the app worked well even if the race didn't go to plan!

Many thanks for your kind words, and especially for tipping. I really appreciate that!

 

[cichykot]

@cfc
The only thing missing now (for me, of course) is more training ranges, so I could save the necessary intervals, e.g., recovery 1-recovery 2, easy 1, easy 2, tempo 1-tempo 2, etc.

This would definitely make it easier to quickly create workouts for complex workouts of this type

 

[pina]

Hi @cfc

I have been using your app for a while now. It's still my go to for running exercices. But I'm having troubles with the sound output of the app.

1. This is my situation:
- only wearing my apple watch, iPhone is at home.
- I'm using my airpods to play music from the apple watch
- Voice output is set on apple watch

When I start running and the app wants to send me a voice notification f.e. to report I'm running too slow, the music's volume get lowered and I receive the voice notification. That's normal behaviour but in my situation the volume is lowered but I don't receive a voice notification. Until approx 5 minutes, then I suddenly receive all previous 5 or 6 voice notifications at once and from then on it's acting normally like it should.

I think it's a bug or something because I never had this before. It's like that a couple of weeks or months now.

2. I was also wondering whether it can autodetect where my sound is being outputted? Sometimes, I'm carrying my iPhone with me and when I do, the music from my airpods are streamed from my iPhone and not from my apple watch. In that case I always have to manually adjust the voice notification settings.

3. Would it be possible to add notes to workouts? I like to compare my runs but sometimes it's important to note that a run was worse than previous because of certain (weather) conditions. It would be great if I could add that