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Would no headphone jack force you to move away from the iphone?
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You've also forgot the increased revenue Apple will gain from licence fees on Lightning headphones and adaptors.
That's simply not true. One doesn't change phone simply choosing the best for him, especially if you invested several hundreds dollars in apps and services over the time...
At least in my case I'll stick with Apple unless they will release an awful product (that's hardly the case).
Wow 4 years ! I'm impressed. I tried everything, every brand, even the expensive Bose, but every sport headset last me no more than 12-15 months (I run 3-4 times a week).
Btw I think that you'll be able to find an adapter nevertheless....
Are you sure license fee are requested for future lightning headphones?
sorry, but i definitely know better than you what is true for me. and im not tide up to the apps or services i have already bought or going to buy.
Manufacturers have to sign up to the MFi program to use the Lightning connector and pay a fee on each item sold. It was $4 per device ($8 if using pass-through) though it may be cheaper now.
This is why I'm against replacing the industry standard 3.5mm port with a proprietary socket which is likely to only appear on Apple devices. If Apple decided to make the socket and connector a new open standard which any company can use at no cost then my opposition will disappear but we all know this is unlikely to happen.
I'd get a 6s and wait it out. I'm a runner. But sometimes I run at a trail near the office after work. Sometimes I run from home. I've got ear buds in my gym bag, car and home. I don't want to worry about always having Lightning ear buds with me. Nor do I want do deal with keeping up with an adapter. And the few BT sets I tried sucked. Plus I travel a lot of use my noise cancelling earphones for my iPad/iPhone. I also use my ear buds for LYNC calls at work on the road.
Lightning earphones or an adapter causes more problems for me than it solves. Apple would have to bring some serious new functionality to make it worthwhile. Something way better than waterproofing or a wireless charging mat.
That's just me though. I know some people swear by their BT earphones or don't use the audio jack at all, so they don't mind.
Lightning earphones or an adapter causes more problems for me than it solves. Apple would have to bring some serious new functionality to make it worthwhile. Something way better than waterproofing or a wireless charging mat.
That's just me though. I know some people swear by their BT earphones or don't use the audio jack at all, so they don't mind.
I use headphones at work(when possible) and BT headphones when I exercise or run.
If apple got rid of the standard jack and didn't make the new connector an open standard or near open standard, it would then it would be a money grab.
I don't plan to upgrade my phone again for another 2 1/2 years, so my answer would have to be re-evaluated then. With that said, at this point, my answer would depend on whether or not they include an adapter in the box, how cumbersome they are, and how much they cost. I listen to music, podcasts, or audiobooks all day at work, and bluetooth earbuds only hold charges for 4 hours or so. I'm not going to buy two pairs of bluetooth earbuds just for work. I use bluetooth earbuds at the gym, which works well because I'm only there for a couple of hours. I have several high quality headphones at work and home that I don't care to replace with bluetooth versions, which would be an incredible expense and cause me to deal with the extra hassle of keeping even more gadgets charged than the numerous ones I already have.
If the adapters aren't compatible with my needs, then I will absolutely look to an Android phone, provided that they haven't switched to some other port as well.
If the adapters aren't compatible with my needs, then I will absolutely look to an Android phone, provided that they haven't switched to some other port as well.
To me that's what this all boils down to. Apple is the best in the world in squeezing every single dollar they can out of their customers. I'm sure they spent a lot of time determining that although they would upset some of their customers, enough people will either adapt or won't be impacted. Their is a gravy train of money that can be made from adapters, Lightning enabled Beats and 3rd party fees that you mention.
It doesn't matter that there isn't a compelling reason to remove it. (Other companies have managed waterproof and wireless charging keeping the adapter). It's standard Apple practice to dick consumers out of every single penny that they have. I don't blame them. Companies are business to make money. Tim Cook is ultimately responsible to the shareholders for growing Apple anyway he can. I'd rather them get back to innovating than handicapping devices through proprietary connectors - but that's just me.
It feels like Apple does just enough to stay barely ahead and coast. And as consumer, it feels they squeeze you like an old tube of toothpaste getting every last dollar out for less product. With the exception of a larger screen iPhone (which was a no-brainer) it's been a steady stream of listless upgrades (specs on the new iMac, Mac Mini) , gimmicks (3-D touch) and handicapped devices (MacBook). I'd love to go back to stuff that I'm excited to buy.
oh ok. doesn't sound like you are a typical user then. i don't think the majority of iPhone users are gonna mind not having the 3.5mm jack. i would bet the majority of people only use headphones with the one device and i doubt it's going to be an issue for them having an adaptor attached to the end of their headphone cord. so, i don't believe apple is losing a whole lot of sleep knowing a small percentage of you are getting all worked up about this change.
Losing the headphone jack in itself won't necessarily cause me to leave the iPhone. However, if doing so results in making the iPhone any THINNER, that might well be a cause of me to do so.
Right now, I'm completely fine and satisfied with my iPhone 6S, but I really don't want or see a reason why the phone has to be any thinner. Honestly, I have not even used the headphone jack since I got my 6S back in September. I have bluetooth all around - earbuds, speaker, and in my jeep - and I don't know if I will ever have a need for the headphone jack.
I actually didn't even use the headphone jack very much on my 5S for the 2 years I had it. I hated the fact that Apple moved the headphone jack to the bottom of the device starting with the iPhone 5. It felt too impractical for my tastes at that point.
So no, removing the headphone jack in itself won't cause me to leave, but making the phone any thinner that the current 6/6S lineup just might.
Right now, I'm completely fine and satisfied with my iPhone 6S, but I really don't want or see a reason why the phone has to be any thinner. Honestly, I have not even used the headphone jack since I got my 6S back in September. I have bluetooth all around - earbuds, speaker, and in my jeep - and I don't know if I will ever have a need for the headphone jack.
I actually didn't even use the headphone jack very much on my 5S for the 2 years I had it. I hated the fact that Apple moved the headphone jack to the bottom of the device starting with the iPhone 5. It felt too impractical for my tastes at that point.
So no, removing the headphone jack in itself won't cause me to leave, but making the phone any thinner that the current 6/6S lineup just might.
I wouldn't switch because of the headrest jack. I currently have Bluetooth headset. I do like the design of apple earbuds and if they provide Bluetooth earbuds I will use them. It's not that big of deal as I prefer wireless. Half the time I forget I am connected when I use the ones that come to the phone and have dropped my phone a couple of times. Thank for for my case and I have not had to replace my iPhone 6+
It will get thinner regardless if they remove the jack or not. Apple already has 6.1mm devices that retain the jack.
Thinner display panel is where Apple is making thinness happen this time I believe. (on glass or in glass is what's it's called, or something like that. Plus then moving to OLED as soon as next year)
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I'm not quite sure what I'll end up doing. I mean I love iOS but I'm not against going back to android. I think what really bothers me is the fact that getting rid of the headphone jack means that people are going to have to use an adapter, and as we all know Apple cables are not sturdy by any means and just plain suck. Not to mention all the people who will inadvertently misplace or lose those adapters and now have to buy a brand-new one for say $20-30 dollars? I mean I can use Bluetooth but if I want to use my headphones I don't like the idea of having to use an adapter. In the end Cook and his squad is gonna do what they want, it doesn't matter we think and Apple could care less if we like it or not.
It doesn't bother me. I'm sure Apple will supply some Bluetooth headphones in the box. You can always get a Bluetooth adapter and use your old headphones. Also I will still have other devices such as my iPads and Mac that I can use my older headphones with. I already have some Bluetooth headphones anyway.
The only potential issue I can see is the Bluetooth draining the battery but Apple will have factored this is and I'm sure in the end it won't be an issue.
The only potential issue I can see is the Bluetooth draining the battery but Apple will have factored this is and I'm sure in the end it won't be an issue.
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Your blind trust in Apple to take care of everything is cute....almost like a small child would have for a parent. I enjoyed reading your post.
Really no need for such a condescending post, which I'm sure violates MR terms of debate. The last sentence doesn't make it any less condescending.
I'll stick with the iPhone 6S until I'm 100% sure my accessories will work. Like a Swipe credit card reader or AAB airflow meters.
Still a lot of people using mag strips, it will cost me a fortune if I need to pay for a non swiped transaction.
EDIT: I'll also need to plug into my company vehicle via aux cable. I also use it to plug into friends audio systems via aux cable.
So as long as an adaptor works very well I don't see a problem.
Honestly, it sounds like more of a hassle then its worth....why pay for an inconvenience when I can just stick with my 6S or go to one of the many great Android phones that I rotate between?
I really don't see a reason this is a big deal. If headphone jack is an important part of your daily routine literally every single competitor and current iPhones have it. Choice is very clear and very easy....
Still a lot of people using mag strips, it will cost me a fortune if I need to pay for a non swiped transaction.
EDIT: I'll also need to plug into my company vehicle via aux cable. I also use it to plug into friends audio systems via aux cable.
So as long as an adaptor works very well I don't see a problem.
Honestly, it sounds like more of a hassle then its worth....why pay for an inconvenience when I can just stick with my 6S or go to one of the many great Android phones that I rotate between?
I really don't see a reason this is a big deal. If headphone jack is an important part of your daily routine literally every single competitor and current iPhones have it. Choice is very clear and very easy....
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This is my first iPhone but the Bluetooth range and stability blows away all my prior Androids including the Note series.
I would assume the ear buds included with the 7 would have a built-in splitter or an accessory like the image below so it could charge while listening to the headphones. That's a use case Apple won't/can't afford to miss.
