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If the phone looked like that, it would probably have terrible specs or battery life just b.c it is so thin. Looks amazing, but your expectations are through the roof.
Yeah!!! That's the spirit. Why even release a new phone since it ain't broke, right?
So you're admitting there's nothing inspiring about the OP's specs. I agree.
You can't pretend the OP's specs are inspiring then when people disagree, say the iPhone doesn't need to be. Either Apple is innovating, or they're not. You can't say they are, then backtrack and say, they don't need to when called out on it.
But we already know your standards are already fine tuned by Apple.
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Yeah!!! That's the spirit. Why even release a new phone since it ain't broke, right?
+1. More or less what I said.
but really, it does not need 2gb of ram.....the only phone I have seen that runs as smooth as the 4S is the nexus running jellybean, which proves it is more about software than anything. Your logic suggest you should buy 32 gb of ram for your computer just b.c you can. If you do not need it and it can cut down cost, why waste money?
phones are a damn rectangle and, for the most part, all look very similar. Not much room for innovation with a rectangle design and specs that are already more than capable of meeting our needs. That goes for all phones on the market. It is a world dominated by software at this point
They need to improve the rear camera even more this time I think. I heard f/2.2 somewhere.
Otherwise it sounds nice, though I don't see A5X happening, the iPhone just doesn't need the extra GPU power, plus that thing is huge compared to the A5. I see them putting the A5 from the new iPad 2 into it instead.
Oh, please then tell us all just how much ram the new iPhone needs Mr. wizard.
Saying. There isn't much room for design innovation is just silly considering all the mockups that have been around for years. Those seem pretty innovative to me unlike apples design.
Apple has smooth running less buggy software but it isn't like they have been out front in terms of innovation for all these years. I mean if they had been I really wouldn't have needed to jailbreak since it was introduced.
That said I really do love the IOS but to disregard how silly apple has been in its slow release of ios options over the years has just been silly. Ie copy paste, user wallpaper, multitasking et al. And quite frankly the apologists over the years are just as silly. This includes now.
well the current 4S runs just fine with the RAM it has, so I wouldn't imagine they would not need much more to support the phone for the next few years. A lot of the mock ups are not feasible b.c you still have to consider the internal parts. I love the mock ups but you have to consider price to make the phone and how thin the phone can actually be with a battery. Really battery technology is something holding everyone back.
What phone would you consider really innovative and why? I don't want anything bigger than 4.3, so don't just spit out screen size
I'm not saying it needs to at all. To some extent, I agree it doesn't (though it'd be nice to be able to open more than 8 tabs in Safari, or have true multitasking, no?). But I'm also not pretending that Apple is pushing the boundaries hardware wise (nor software wise, in my opinion).
I'm simply calling for intellectual consistency. Either they are innovating and pushing the boundaries, like their entire philosophy dictates, or they're not.
You're right there's not much to be done about a rectangle touch screen, so where can they improve? Well, other manufacturers are finding ways. Where's NFC? Where's LTE (okay, we may finally get that for the iPhone this year)? Where are the larger screens to meet the obvious demand (okay, we may finally get an additional .5 inches this year)? When are we going to get rid of the home button to finally put to rest those home-button failure/dust issues? I'm sure there are others (like wireless charging, or beaming, two things which Samsung is trying to introduce).
And software wise, the biggest feature in iOS 6 is Maps/Navigation. I mean, that's great for iOS devotees, but again, is this innovating? To me, what's more inspiring is Smart Stay (the phone checks to see if your eyes are open and actively reading to remain on? That's genuinely smart!), or tilt to scroll, or direct dial via proximity sensor. (Bare in mind, I'm not even that big of a fan of the GSIII...)
The last time Apple inspired was with the iPhone 4. And if the rumored leaks and specs do become the next gen iPhone, it's okay to finally say Apple isn't innovating anymore. Blasphemy, for some.
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looks for a body in front of the screen, not an open eye....I have tested it by moving it in front of my desk and it thought it was me.
back on topic though, I agree there are features missing and finally arriving with ios6. You also have to realize apple releases a new phone once a year vs the 20+ androids that come out, so it will always be behind a few months after release. Really it just supports the fact that today it is all about software b.c no company has an issue supplying adequate hardware. Also, something apple has going for it that no other phone company has is amazing customer support. That may sound silly, but to have a problem and very easily get a new phone is something very important to me. I think that may be part of the reason apple has a "closed garden" feel to it, and use to turn away jailbroken phones.
well that's a total lie. I've got a SGS3 in front of me and when stared at a desk, the screen (as expected) turns off to save battery.
It detects a face
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also im going to also add that smart stay has been implemented brilliantly. It isn't a massive gimmick and genuinely works.
expect iSmartstay in iOS9
"Apple makes the new iPhone WATERPROOF and it will sell 50 Million easily."
That concept is just impossible to make, and it has no home button. On top of that, the artist even put the wrong name on it.
try putting your hand in front of it, not your face. I know it works and it is a great feature, but it does not use your eye lids.....
I always thought the other motion features were great on the s3....lift a contact on screen to call and the pinch for home screen changes...oh and PIP is a pretty awesome feature (even though i probably would never use it).
Does the "tap the top" to scroll up work for you? I never got that one to work.
Some people here don't seem to realize that there are tradeoffs to everything. Apple thinks very hard about what features to provide; they don't just blindly inflate tech specs like Android manufacturers.
Why No NFC this year? The technology is in its infancy, and standards are still being worked out. Why no LTE last year? The chips were too large and power-hungry. Why no 2 GB RAM? More RAM = more power and battery requirements.
Why No NFC this year? The technology is in its infancy, and standards are still being worked out. Why no LTE last year? The chips were too large and power-hungry. Why no 2 GB RAM? More RAM = more power and battery requirements.
I don't own a GSIII so I can't say from experience (as mentioned, I'm not even that big of a fan of the GSIII), but the point is that at least they're trying. They'll be hiccups with new ideas and technologies.
And all I can say about the second thing is, sure, I agree Apple has a lot of things going for them. I don't think that was the topic I was discussing.
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Sure. I understand your point and to some extent even agree. So can we stop pretending Apple is the most innovative tech company in the world, and stop buying anything and everything they put out? Somewhat rhetorical because I know that'll never happen; that's the problem.
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If it's not clear, all I'm saying is we should be honest about Apple's shortcomings. Criticizing, believe it or not, is good in the long run.
if it had more ram, the apps and firmware can be more demanding then they are now.. software is limited by the hardware.... iOS can easily be more graphical (if apple actually updated it), better games etc. Every so often, if i have too many apps background my animations get choppy when switching apps, pulling down my notifcation center etc.
Is it hard for me to close some apps no? but will it be nice to have an extra gig of ram and not worry about it? yes
They for sure need to bump it up to 1gb ram if they are making the screen bigger, and will have more pixels.
have you played with 4.1 jelly bean? its just as smooth as iOS. <4.1 i agree.
While true, the devices that have NFC and LTE work, and work well.
People complain they don't want an Android because it's going to be outdated in no time however I have a 4S and by tech standards it was outdated the day I got it. I think you are confusing why you think Apple does what it does with why they really do what they do, their business tactics. It's all about $$$$. I have a 4S that is lacking in current tech so my option is to upgrade to the next iPhone. The next iPhone will be lacking somewhere when it's a year old and I should upgrade to the next one. So on and so on.
I'm reading more about the GSIII and discovering stuff I never knew about before, like NFC TacTiles and Buddy Camera (where if you're with a friend who has a GSIII, both devices will save each other's photos being taken at the moment over WiFi. The example the reviewer used was at concerts, or events, and you want to get both yours and your friend's pics at the same time. Simply amazing). There's a couple of other little things that slip my mind, like burst mode, and whatnot.
When you consider these things on top of the aforementioned things like Smart Stay, Direct Dial, Tilt to Scroll, etc., honestly, Samsung is putting Apple to shame in the "innovation" department.
When you consider these things on top of the aforementioned things like Smart Stay, Direct Dial, Tilt to Scroll, etc., honestly, Samsung is putting Apple to shame in the "innovation" department.
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is what we are getting. This is what we expected the least:-better apps integration.
-ability to choose default apps(who wants to use safari???)
-able to download few files in safari
-new design(seriously, you must change design AFTER 3 YEARS if you only releae 1 phone in whole year)
-better battery(from reports i have read, it would remain same)
-less bezel
-improved UI
-wifi/3g on-off toggles in NC
After waiting for whole da*n year or so, i am ready to shift to another OS if i am getting these BAAAASIC features.
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-better apps integration.
-ability to choose default apps(who wants to use safari???)
-able to download few files in safari
-new design(seriously, you must change design AFTER 3 YEARS if you only releae 1 phone in whole year)
-better battery(from reports i have read, it would remain same)
-less bezel
-improved UI
-wifi/3g on-off toggles in NC
After waiting for whole da*n year or so, i am ready to shift to another OS if i am getting these BAAAASIC features.
None of this is "basic". Basic is making phone calls and texting. Everything you listed is customization which we all know is something Apple isn't too fond of.
My first iPhone was the 3, didn't have it long before I got the 4, then upgraded to the 4s. I honestly feel like I've had the same phone for 3 years. Yes specs are different etc but the GUI is the same, there's still the same things lacking (basic Bluetooth file transfer, themes, removing unwanted icons etc).
A few of my friends have got the galaxy S3, the iPhone looks like a dot next to it, the screen is incredible, there's nothing the iPhone does that the S3 can't. The battery is better, it has so many little features, it's truly impressive.
And yet still I stay with the iPhone, I love having an iPhone but can't deny the magic, for me personally is wearing off, the incrimental upgrades are boring me now.
The positives of having an iPhone are the app store (yes, android market gets stuff, either months later or not at all, plus there is a considerable amount of malware on the android market, I don't want an anti virus on my phone), the customer service. It breaks, you take it to the genius bar, the fix it there and then or swap it out. No sending it away for weeks on end. And, well, it just works.
If the new iPhone has those specs, will I be impressed? Not even remotely, I'll be disappointed just like I was with the 4s announcement. If those are the specs and it's essentially just a long 4s, I will have to seriously consider the S3 for my next upgrade.
A few of my friends have got the galaxy S3, the iPhone looks like a dot next to it, the screen is incredible, there's nothing the iPhone does that the S3 can't. The battery is better, it has so many little features, it's truly impressive.
And yet still I stay with the iPhone, I love having an iPhone but can't deny the magic, for me personally is wearing off, the incrimental upgrades are boring me now.
The positives of having an iPhone are the app store (yes, android market gets stuff, either months later or not at all, plus there is a considerable amount of malware on the android market, I don't want an anti virus on my phone), the customer service. It breaks, you take it to the genius bar, the fix it there and then or swap it out. No sending it away for weeks on end. And, well, it just works.
If the new iPhone has those specs, will I be impressed? Not even remotely, I'll be disappointed just like I was with the 4s announcement. If those are the specs and it's essentially just a long 4s, I will have to seriously consider the S3 for my next upgrade.
When every other cheap phone in market comes with these features then there is no harm in calling them basic. Since i am not getting these, i have stated what i plan to do in future
Yes, I would be satisfied with the OP's assumptions.
I do think that NFC is on its was based on what we've seen (or a lack thereof) of Passbook. It seems odd to me that none of the functionality has been enabled at all during the betas. It seems like something they are saving as the headline feature of the unveil.
I agree with what others have said regarding the technology being in its infancy, but maybe they are ready to lead with some innovation in an attempt to capture the market. I didn't believe them at all when they came out a few months back claiming that they were going to "take it slow" with digital wallet technologies. It sounded a lot like misdirection to me.
With the current state of the only other major player (Google Wallet), it seems like a market ripe for Apple to step in and take. Just remember, they already own the largest database of customers with credit cards attached in the world.
We'll see...
I do think that NFC is on its was based on what we've seen (or a lack thereof) of Passbook. It seems odd to me that none of the functionality has been enabled at all during the betas. It seems like something they are saving as the headline feature of the unveil.
I agree with what others have said regarding the technology being in its infancy, but maybe they are ready to lead with some innovation in an attempt to capture the market. I didn't believe them at all when they came out a few months back claiming that they were going to "take it slow" with digital wallet technologies. It sounded a lot like misdirection to me.
With the current state of the only other major player (Google Wallet), it seems like a market ripe for Apple to step in and take. Just remember, they already own the largest database of customers with credit cards attached in the world.
We'll see...