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None of this is "basic". Basic is making phone calls and texting. Everything you listed is customization which we all know is something Apple isn't too fond of.
Basic phone includes turning Bluetooth ON/OFF easily.
The iPhone is not just a phone, it is also an iPod and an Interner Communicator, as it was defined when it was announced.
 
Basic phone includes turning Bluetooth ON/OFF easily.
The iPhone is not just a phone, it is also an iPod and an Interner Communicator, as it was defined when it was announced.

I don't need I jump through hoops to turn off Bluetooth. Sure Android can do it quicker, but it's still not that hard to do on iPhone.
 
I don't need I jump through hoops to turn off Bluetooth. Sure Android can do it quicker, but it's still not that hard to do on iPhone.

My guess is that Apple has piles of data that show only xyz% of users ever toggle on Bluetooth and other features that power users want at their fingertips. Of course, you could make the argument that people don't toggle them because they don't have easy access.

In either event, it probably comes down to available resources and prioritization. If a product manager has to choose between things like Maps, Passbook, and Siri vs. wifi/Bluetooth toggles, you know what will win every time.
 
My guess is that Apple has piles of data that show only xyz% of users ever toggle on Bluetooth and other features that power users want at their fingertips. Of course, you could make the argument that people don't toggle them because they don't have easy access.

In either event, it probably comes down to available resources and prioritization. If a product manager has to choose between things like Maps, Passbook, and Siri vs. wifi/Bluetooth toggles, you know what will win every time.

Yet Android can offer it, and still provide Maps, NFC, and Google Now.

Perhaps when you say "available resources" do you mean RAM? Because if so, maybe you want to talk to Battling about how the iPhone doesn't need anymore RAM. :cool:
 
Yet Android can offer it, and still provide Maps, NFC, and Google Now.

Perhaps when you say "available resources" do you mean RAM? Because if so, maybe you want to talk to Battling about how the iPhone doesn't need anymore RAM. :cool:

resources = available developers

I'm not arguing that Android hasn't offered it. I'm just saying that Apple may have different priorities.
 
If the new iPhone (iPhone 6th generation) had these:

- iOS 6 (Siri, Maps, FaceTime, etc.)
- Improved, Thinner design (7.6 mm, 18% thinner)
- 4-inch Retina display (30% increase, 640 x 1136)
- Dual-core A5X chip (1 GHz CPU & 1 GB DRAM)
- 4G LTE (AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint)
- FaceTime HD (1.3 MP FaceTime camera)
- Group Chat (FaceTime between four iOS devices or Macs)
- Better speakers
- Smaller dock
- nanoSIM
- Enhanced Bluetooth 4.0 Sharing
- Enhanced Airplay
- Panorama mode for Camera
- Better battery compared to iPhone 4S

Think these are the most reasonable features.


3.5 to 4 inch is a 30% increase?:rolleyes:
 
I am still hoping for a tactile screen, there where some rumors about it just before "the new iPad" launch... fingers crossed to see it on the new iPhone :)
 
My guess is that Apple has piles of data that show only xyz% of users ever toggle on Bluetooth and other features that power users want at their fingertips. Of course, you could make the argument that people don't toggle them because they don't have easy access.

In either event, it probably comes down to available resources and prioritization. If a product manager has to choose between things like Maps, Passbook, and Siri vs. wifi/Bluetooth toggles, you know what will win every time.

I just leave bluetooth on all of the time....never really notice a difference in battery
 
I am ready for my first iP, but if the battery life is still <1day, will just stick w/ my unlocked N9 on a $45 unlimited prepaid plan. I get at least 2 days battery life in normal use.
 
I just leave bluetooth on all of the time....never really notice a difference in battery

What phone do you have?

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I am ready for my first iP, but if the battery life is still <1day, will just stick w/ my unlocked N9 on a $45 unlimited prepaid plan. I get at least 2 days battery life in normal use.

Yes, the battery should last longer, and with every phone before the iPhone the usage was limited to a few phone calls, some texting and the snake game.
How many hours are you actually using your N9? I mean actually doing something with it, not simple stand-by.
 
So what is better, having a quad core with 1gb of ram or a dual core with 2 gb of ram. The last I heard the dual core with 2gb preformed about the same as the quad core with 1gb. I haven't heard anything new about which is better. I'm just wondering in relation to the iPhone 5 would it better to have a quad core with 1gb of ram or a dual with 2 gb of ram?
 
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Originally Posted by irDigital0l
If the new iPhone (iPhone 6th generation) had these:

- iOS 6 (Siri, Maps, FaceTime, etc.) I see no advantages over iOS 5 for my purposes
- Improved, Thinner design (7.6 mm, 18% thinner) fine the way it is, but I'll take it.
- 4-inch Retina display (30% increase, 640 x 1136) Better than what we've got but that's about all it is.
- Dual-core A5X chip (1 GHz CPU & 1 GB DRAM) zzzzzz
- 4G LTE (AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint) so I can burn through my data plan faster, yay
- FaceTime HD (1.3 MP FaceTime camera) don't care, don't use it
- Group Chat (FaceTime between four iOS devices or Macs) no need for it
- Better speakers not bad the way they are
- Smaller dock zzzzzzz
- nanoSIM zzzzzz
- Enhanced Bluetooth 4.0 Sharing zzzzzz
- Enhanced Airplay better ways to get from point A to point B
- Panorama mode for Camera There's already apps for that

Think these are the most reasonable features.

Nothing here really shouts "here's the next new iPhone!" to me.

The blind pessimism I witness on these forums is insane... So glad I don't view the world the way you do...

Anway... Current iPhone = Badass.. so I assume the next revision will be awesome, and I can't wait to see what Apple has come up with :D
 
If the new iPhone (iPhone 6th generation) had these:

- iOS 6 (Siri, Maps, FaceTime, etc.)
- Improved, Thinner design (7.6 mm, 18% thinner)
- 4-inch Retina display (30% increase, 640 x 1136)
- Dual-core A5X chip (1 GHz CPU & 1 GB DRAM)
- 4G LTE (AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint)
- FaceTime HD (1.3 MP FaceTime camera)
- Group Chat (FaceTime between four iOS devices or Macs)
- Better speakers
- Smaller dock
- nanoSIM
- Enhanced Bluetooth 4.0 Sharing
- Enhanced Airplay
- Panorama mode for Camera
- Better battery compared to iPhone 4S

Think these are the most reasonable features.

yup sign me up. only thing I doubt is the Group Chat FaceTime.
 
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So they have enough resources to pay attention to this: http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/06/12/music-volume-knob-detail/

And you think one of the reasons why they can't introduce toggles, or any sort of quick access to settings in general, is because they lack developers?

Priorities, indeed. =T

Yes, priorities.

Priorities = Available Resources + Quality of Resources + Importance of Feature + Level of Effort to Build Feature + Time Available + Additional Considerations

It may have taken a developer a few days to code the knob detail, where it may take a developer weeks/months to properly implement the bluetooth toggles. Even then, it could get rejected in a UI review or other such validations.

There is more to this than meets the eye. People like to simplify it and act like it is no big deal. There are probably hundreds of reasons why one thing is implemented and not another. Such is software development.
 
Yes, priorities.

Priorities = Available Resources + Quality of Resources + Importance of Feature + Level of Effort to Build Feature + Time Available + Additional Considerations

It may have taken a developer a few days to code the knob detail, where it may take a developer weeks/months to properly implement the bluetooth toggles. Even then, it could get rejected in a UI review or other such validations.

There is more to this than meets the eye. People like to simplify it and act like it is no big deal. There are probably hundreds of reasons why one thing is implemented and not another. Such is software development.

I hear ya. Just saying Google can do it (years ago) I think if apple wanted to they could too. They clearly don't want to.
 
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