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Tell that to the folks at google


Ninety-nine percent of Google's revenue is derived from its advertising programs. For the 2006 fiscal year, the company reported $10.492 billion in total advertising revenues and only $112 million in licensing and other revenues. (Wiki)

Google are not altruistic, the search engine may be free but it it is funded through advertising and the company is on the stockmarket.
 
My point was that if a free app was worthwhile it was worth paying for, therefore if it's not worth paying for it's junk. and not needed.

As for people who would cause a ruckus, well they would soon stop complaining, if they really wanted the app they would pay for it.... people just love to complain.

Skype is a brilliant app, but if they had followed thru with that plan, i would have ditched it and gone with a free alternative, like Fring, which supported skype until skype cut them off around the same time, knowing people would ditch the official skype app. If you were right and that people would have stuck with skype even tho they were going to charge, why did they then backtrack? if you were right, they wouldn't have done this.....
 
Skype is a brilliant app, but if they had followed thru with that plan, i would have ditched it and gone with a free alternative, like Fring, which supported skype until skype cut them off around the same time, knowing people would ditch the official skype app. If you were right and that people would have stuck with skype even tho they were going to charge, why did they then backtrack? if you were right, they wouldn't have done this.....

Well I can't speak for everyone but I would have payed and would still pay a few € for the skype app.
 
Ninety-nine percent of Google's revenue is derived from its advertising programs. For the 2006 fiscal year, the company reported $10.492 billion in total advertising revenues and only $112 million in licensing and other revenues. (Wiki)

Google are not altruistic, the search engine may be free but it it is funded through advertising and the company is on the stockmarket.

You just made my point. Ads with a free application make sense.
 
I suppose I am a bit of a prick in some regards, if I am in a shop and a sales assistant approaches me I generally will not buy from that store.

Someone is out busting their butt to make a living and you give them/the store grief for simply doing their job? A simple "No thank you, I'm just looking. I'll find you if I have any questions" is too much to muster? Wow, this is deeper than iAds or even advertising in general.
 
You just made my point. Ads with a free application make sense.


Yes but I do not have to see any ads on Google as I can block them out...

I refer you to the original post if you could block iAds as you can block ads on search engines would you?
 
Someone is out busting their butt to make a living and you give them/the store grief for simply doing their job? A simple "No thank you, I'm just looking. I'll find you if I have any questions" is too much to muster? Wow, this is deeper than iAds or even advertising in general.

I guess the fact that I admit to being a bit of a prick about it would suggest that it does run deeper than iAds..

I guess I am anti advertising in general, I know that it funds things but I really don't agree with it. I find it pushes people to spend money they don't have and keeps people in debt due to the perceived need to own a product.
 
Yes but I do not have to see any ads on Google as I can block them out...

I refer you to the original post if you could block iAds as you can block ads on search engines would you?

Who wouldnt love to have something like that. No ads.

well not really. google ads i actually like because they are very relevant.

But if everyone thought like that none of these services would exist including google.
 
I guess I am anti advertising in general, I know that it funds things but I really don't agree with it. I find it pushes people to spend money they don't have and keeps people in debt due to the perceived need to own a product.

Then you can pay for Apps or put up with them. What else is there? What do you want someone to say?
 
If it were possible to block iAds with something such as Ad Blocker would you use it?

I for one do not want advertisements popping up at me when I use my iPad.

Seriously if I want something I will go buy it, I do not need to be told about whilst I am doing something else...

Please someone develop iAdBlocker quick.

I was not looking for anything other than peoples opinions on the original post...


If you could block them would you?

It was a pretty simple question....
 
I was not looking for anything other than peoples opinions on the original post...


If you could block them would you?

It was a pretty simple question....

you're right. i kinda went of more on the title of your post.

to answer your question. considering that the eco system of the app world is so delicate and Dependant on ads mostly for smaller independent developers I personally would say no.
 
you're right. i kinda went of more on the title of your post.

to answer your question. considering that the eco system of the app world is so delicate and Dependant on ads mostly for smaller independent developers I personally would say no.


I see what you mean, I just tweaked the title of the thread :)
 
Ads? Or iAds? iAds are just a specific type of advertising sold through Apple. They're one option for developers looking to support their free apps.

Developers can use any type of ads they please (as long as they don't violate the developer agreement of course), from third party banner ad services, to inline ads (for example advertisements embedded in a twitter stream), ads that play in a news app before a video loads, or even ads that the developer created themselves to remind you about the paid version of the app that has more features.

I probably wouldn't block the ads if I could, because most apps are pretty cheap and then I know I'm supporting the developer. If I could make a one time $5 payment to disable all Google/YouTube ads you bet I would, especially since ad-blockers don't always work on things like pre-roll ads.

Reading your posts I think you would be happy with an App Store free of any advertising but where there were very few free apps, with most costing a dollar or two. That's fine, but why not have the choice? Does the existence of the free ad-supported version hinder your use of the paid version in any way?
 
I find it odd that so many people are willing to defend advertisements that directly profit Apple, but not any other form of advertisement. Let's be honest, has anyone heard people rally against firewalls, Flash and ad blockers for web browsers, or DVRs for cable? Nope. I don't really care how clever, well designed and interactive an ad is, it's still an ad. Regardless if it is an iAd, a Flash ad, an HTML 5 ad, an animated gif banner, a plain image or some other format. There are plenty of Flash ads on the web that are just as well designed and interactive as iAds, and they annoy myself and many others the same amount.

The excuse for developers that ads help support their free app is a lame one. If the developer doesn't want to give away their hard work for free, then don't release a "free" version. Duh. There is the option to charge money for apps after all. Use it. If developers are trying to get their app noticed with a free version, then release it as a lite version with limited functionality. Finally, for those developers that can't seem to get people to download their app unless they list it as "free", then that means their app sucks and they should probably scrap it and make something worth selling. There is absolutely no need to plaster ANY app with ads. Many paid apps have ads and some free apps don't have a paid version, so the other common excuse to, "Just buy the paid app instead of downloading the free one.", is just as lame.

To answer the initial poster's question; yes, if I could I would block iAds and other forms of ads on my iPhone. In fact I do exactly that. Jailbreak only of course. Just install Firewall IP and add "com.apple.adsheet" to your Global Deny list. Denied! There are many other ad companies which can be blocked in the same manner.

"How do you expect developers of free apps to make money?"

I don't, and neither should the developer. Don't release a "free" program and expect to make money. Release an app worth buying and I'll gladly pay for it.

To stave off at least some of the inevitable snide comments from morons with their heads in their asses of how I'm just some entitled kid too worried about screen bleed; know that I am typing this response on my Mac Pro, I use an iPhone 4 and I work for a medical company who, along with its other products, now develops iPad and iPhone apps for simulation and training of doctors and other medical professionals. While most of our apps are developed for specific clients and delivered at the enterprise level to in-house staff only, (not available on the app store), we do still have one iPhone app that is on the App Store and it's actually free. It is a lite version and utilizes absolutely no ads of any kind. We don't rely on the "ads support our app" crutch, we just develop good software and coincidentally people pay good money for it. Funny how it works that way.

Saturating apps with ads can only be defined as either greed or just plain terrible software, and any excuse otherwise simply means that you have had too much Kool-Aid to drink.
 
Why block ads on apps? Developers work hard to create their apps only for people to deny them any kind of compensation?

Stop being cheap and buy the full version if you don't want ads (This isn't directed towards the OP, just people in general).
 
I always say "no!" to aids. It's a horrible disease and no one deserves to get it. I hope that recent cure will be legit and no one ill ever suffer fm aids again.
 
Why block ads on apps? Developers work hard to create their apps only for people to deny them any kind of compensation?

Stop being cheap and buy the full version if you don't want ads (This isn't directed towards the OP, just people in general).

I forgot to mention the snide comments from people who don't actually read the thread, which you clearly have not, and then reply with the standard regurgitated answer. Never seen that before.

Many paid apps have ads and many free apps with ads don't have a paid version. How about, stop being lazy and develop apps that people WANT to buy so you don't have to rely on the "ads for income" crutch. My company develops apps and guess what? Not a single one uses ads. Even our free app. I am more than happy to pay for apps that are worth getting, and so is everyone else. There is never an excuse to plaster your app with ads.
 
I forgot to mention the snide comments from people who don't actually read the thread, which you clearly have not, and then reply with the standard regurgitated answer. Never seen that before.

Many paid apps have ads and many free apps with ads don't have a paid version. How about, stop being lazy and develop apps that people WANT to buy so you don't have to rely on the "ads for income" crutch. My company develops apps and guess what? Not a single one uses ads. Even our free app. I am more than happy to pay for apps that are worth getting, and so is everyone else. There is never an excuse to plaster your app with ads.

Congratulations to your company.

The fact of the matter is that there are still people who find ways to block ads from perfectly good free apps for one reason or another. Just because a free app doesn't have a paid counterpart is still no reason to block ads.

If the app sucks, then don't use it and find a better one. This is the app site we're talking about and you have 100's of thousands of choices. There never has been, and never will be a valid reason to block ads in any type of app. Period.

If a paid app has ads, then they are doing it wrong. Just find something else to use.
 
I have yet to see a proper iAd.. Everytime there has been one in an app I have downloaded all I have seen is Test Advertisment.
 
There never has been, and never will be a valid reason to block ads in any type of app. Period.

Wrong. AT&T (and other phone companies) continue to limit and throttle their data usage. Wasting precious data on worthless ads is an extremely valid reason to block them, especially when traveling abroad where data runs at an extremely high premium.

Privacy is another. iAds are targeted and collect data about your iTunes purchasing history, location data, and any other download or library information they can gather to determine what ad you see. Many people are not comfortable with this form of privacy invasion, which makes for yet another great reason to block ads. You don't know what information they are gathering, you are not notified, nor can you opt out of this collection. Regular apps have already abused the collection of data and contacts and ad targeting will do the same if it hasn't already. You can install a firewall on any computer, ad and script blockers on any browser and you should have the same control on your phones, where most people store significantly more private data than they do anywhere else.

If there will never be a valid reason to block unwanted ads on your phone, then that means there would never be a valid reason to block ads on your TV, your computer or websites either. But we all know that's not true, because there are plenty of valid reasons.

Stop making excuses for lazy developers. If they want to make money with their app, then make a good app and people will throw money at them to get their hands on it.
 
And cheat Apple out of more money, Never.

Ha!

You know it's funny that when Steve announced that iOS would not support Flash the most common response to that from the Kool-Aid drinkers was, "Good riddance! I hate Flash! Stupid interactive artsy advertisements popping up everywhere." Then when Steve announced iAds it was, "How AWESOME! I love interactive artsy advertisements. That's so cool!"

That's when I threw up in my mouth a little bit. There is no hope for humanity.
 
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