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Would you say no to iAds? (formerly say no to iAds)
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He never said that he did. He is suggesting that income via advertizing has gotten out of control. It is the popular thing to do these days. Rather than spending the time making a quality app that people want to buy, many iOS and other mobile platform developers just throw a bunch of "free" crap apps out there plastered with ads in the hopes that they will make some money because a bunch of people will download it just because it's "free", not because it's good.
If developers make an app worth buying, then people WILL buy it, canceling out the lame assumption that developers need ads to support their apps. Developers do not NEED ads, what they need is make good apps. That's how software and everything else survives. The best software/hardware/whatever wins. Imagine if every time you turn on your Mac you had to wade through a bunch of iAds to get anything done? How about a perpetual iAd that is built into your desktop, because hey, Apple needs to make money off OSX right? Not like that they don't, and nobody else does either.
Kind of hard to believe that someone who frequents the MacRumors forums wouldn't have found out about an iPad were it not for advertising.
1. the bandwidth is minimal and inconsequential, the ads are small, relatively low resolution, and don't flip through fast, aren't interactive annoying flash animations.
2. Apple runs the iAd system, Apple runs the iTune system, OMG THEY ALREADY have all that info on you, and it doesn't leave them until they signal to your device which Ad to load.
3. Plenty of valid reasons on desktop that are not applicable to current iOS devices. Apples and oranges.
4. Most do put a price on their apps. But for those who don't mind Ads, there is the free version. OMG THEY GIVES US CHOICE, CRUCIFY THEM!
6. ...
7. Profit!
Lots of folks (including me) have never visited a Kindle forum or an HP android forum, but know the products exist because of media advertising.
The very minimal advertising I see on my iPad doesn't bother me - but if the ads started to pop, flash, blink, or make noise, I'd delete the app.
As long as they aren't obtrusive, I'm quite fine with iAds. Particularly for a product that was free. In some cases, the ads were actually useful. Some companies use it to advertise their other products; and when it's both non-obtrusive, and a good chance you'll like the other products, why not?
The important thing is whether they make it so it's too easy to leave the app. Stuff that takes you out of the app is not great, even though you can task quickly back to it now.
Even before iAds, the old New Your Times app used to have Ads very much like iAds, and the way they were done was pretty awesome. Non-obtrusive ads and ones that were there, you click on it and got cool interactive ads that were kind of fun to play with while still in the app.
Of course, some of the coolness of the Ads relied on the company that made them. Too many companies just suck at making Ads, but they want to shove it down your throat anyway. (It's like a higher amount of companies only make the effort when it takes TV time).
The important thing is whether they make it so it's too easy to leave the app. Stuff that takes you out of the app is not great, even though you can task quickly back to it now.
Even before iAds, the old New Your Times app used to have Ads very much like iAds, and the way they were done was pretty awesome. Non-obtrusive ads and ones that were there, you click on it and got cool interactive ads that were kind of fun to play with while still in the app.
Of course, some of the coolness of the Ads relied on the company that made them. Too many companies just suck at making Ads, but they want to shove it down your throat anyway. (It's like a higher amount of companies only make the effort when it takes TV time).
1. You've obviously never traveled abroad with your phone, nor do you fall into the category of the many people who only buy the minimum 200MB data plan. For these people, every little bit of bandwidth counts. Your opinion of ads not being annoying is irrelevant. Many people do find them annoying, regardless if random-guy-on-forum does not.
2. Looks like Apple does allow you to opt out of data collection for targeted ads. Very nice! Obviously they know some people care about their privacy. Just because you do not, doesn't mean that no one else does either. Go to http://oo.apple.com on your mobile device to opt out of targeted ads.
3. True, but there are plenty more reasons on your mobile phone that don't exist for computers. Most people 1. Carry significantly more personal data on their phones than anywhere else digitally, and 2. Have much greater bandwidth restrictions than they do on their computers. All the more reason to have MORE control over exactly what is and what is not downloaded and uploaded on your mobile device.
4. I pay for all my apps. I don't bother with free versions because I can't stand adds. And the apps that don't have an "ad free" version, those are the ones that I block. Some developers do give the option. For those that do not, I create the option myself.
This isn't about winning. What's my problem you ask?
My problem is I don't understand people. Steve Jobs could stand on stage and hold up a steaming hot turd and the crowd will cheer, then camp out in a mile long line around the Apple Store to be the first ones to get their hands on it.
I'm not bashing on Steve here, the man is brilliant and when he can pull off stuff like that it only makes him look better. But the people flooding the store to buy the turd don't look so good.
Steve Jobs is literally the only person on the planet who could announce new advertisements and have a crowd of consumers cheering about it. If Comcast cable announced they were bringing iAds to cable, a new form of stylistic advertisement that you can interact with using your remote which may pop up every 3 minutes (but don't worry they are easy to dismiss so you can get right back to your show), people would be livid!!!
Granted I can understand why developers (or Comcast partners) would be interested in iAds, but consumers? I do understand why you as a developer would like iAds. I don't agree with that business strategy, I think there are much better and less annoying ways to make a profit, but I do understand it. But consumers to rave about iAds being "the biggest blockbuster feature of iOS 4", as one blogger writes? (And not from a developer's standpoint, but from a consumer's...) How can people one minute bash on Flash because they can't stand interactive annoying stylish ads, then the next minute rave about how awesome iAds are??? Because Steve said no to Flash and yes to iAds?
I don't understand people. That's my problem.
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I haven't visited a kindle or Android forum either. But an Apple forum... That's a different story
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You can.
Jailbreak your phone. Install Firewall IP. Add "com.apple.adsheet" to your Global Deny list. Done.