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Wow. Apple Maps is a disaster.

Doombringer said:
What amuses me here is the parade of apologists, hypocrites, who would laud Apple for X, Y and Z and yet gloss over the problem with Maps.

Maps did not debut as an alpha or beta product, and Apple prides themselves on the level of polish they put into their apps, OSes, and hardware. In fact, consumers pay a premium for these higher-quality devices and the platform(s) they run on. Why is it suddenly acceptable to have a Maps application that is, for a great many people, unfinished and in some cases completely useless?

Overall I like Apple's products and services, but there's no way I can give them a pass on this. Maps wasn't ready.
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Well said, this product is good for Apple internal development team, not ready for general availability. I am surprised what kind of field test went into this product and why beta testers didn't raise these issues. At least San Francisco should be perfect. I think Apple should dump Yelp and go with Google for location information, integrate with TomTom map. They can get maps from WikiMapia, no one cares, search functionality is bad. Or may be Bing Maps.

I guess Tim Cook is trying to run Apple like a business.
 
Really starting to like this new map app a lot for turn by turn. It's constantly out performing my Garmin in speed and accuracy. Granted, all my tests have been in major US cities but so far no issues.
 
Now we have a Tim Cook apology for what is in essence a very bad, very early beta App. Not only that, but Tim Cook is recommending competitor's Apps because Apple's is so abysmal.

If Apple's Maps belonged to anybody else, it would have been pulled from the App Store by now.
 
Idefix said:
If Apple's Maps belonged to anybody else, it would have been pulled from the App Store by now.
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Nah. People would just give it bad reviews and it wouldn't get any downloads. There are tons of apps way crappier than Apple Maps.

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bmwhd said:
Really starting to like this new map app a lot for turn by turn. It's constantly out performing my Garmin in speed and accuracy. Granted, all my tests have been in major US cities but so far no issues.
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I agree. I've used it five times now. Each time it got me to my destination - and much more safely than Google Maps with its lack of turn-by-turn.
 
Why are there no exit numbers marked on highways? That seems like a pretty obvious thing to include.
 
Apple Maps is clearly better, my opinion now raised after comparing my little hickville hometown with Google's Maps.

Apple Maps clearly has more up to date satellite imagery, confirmed when I looked at my parent's home and some of the changes they have made over the past year.

I'm a believer now. Not saying everything is perfect, but a few spot checks bore impressive results in my eyes. I think Apple Maps has the potential to be better than Google's, if Apple's current rate at is any indication.
 
Idefix said:
Yep, it's Apple's acknowledgment that Maps is super bad.

Tim Cook pretty much didn't have a choice, the criticism is deafening.
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Yeah, you'd think that forum members who have insisted that it's alright would at least not continue to dismiss those who find maps awful. Apple doesn't issue apologies lightly and never recommends trying a competitor's product as an alternative to their own. That says everything.
 
PDE said:
Yeah, you'd think that forum members who have insisted that it's alright would at least not continue to dismiss those who find maps awful. Apple doesn't issue apologies lightly and never recommends trying a competitor's product as an alternative to their own. That says everything.
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Maybe now even the faithful can admit what the rest of us have been pointing out, it's a major fail on a very disappointing scale, and certainly not what most of us expect from the company.

For me it's worrying not just because they screwed up Maps, but also because it might be hinting at a serious flaw in the management hierarchy that allowed this out of the door, when they still had more time to work on it. Whoever signed off on the inclusion for iOS6 may be feeling rather anxious about the situation. And rightly so.
 
Idefix said:
Yep, it's Apple's acknowledgment that Maps is super bad.

Tim Cook pretty much didn't have a choice, the criticism is deafening.
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Yep. So it now appears that since Tim Cook himself has admitted that Apple Maps is a faulty/inferior product, it's safe to say that everyone in this thread that has been vigorously defending it (saying its better, there's nothing wrong with it, you're holding it wrong, etc.) is wrong.
 
I tried to get the weather for a place in called Newtown using a weather app i paid for. But I could not find it because called Newton in Apple maps.

But it gets worse...

When I zoomed out to see which part of the country I was looking at I saw that Swindon is now a couple of miles west of Birmingham and Waymouth is in Stoke. These are large towns and cites hundreds of mile away from where they should be.

How can the apple apologists seriously think this is defendable in any way. It's absolutely broken.
 
Idefix said:
Now we have a Tim Cook apology for what is in essence a very bad, very early beta App. Not only that, but Tim Cook is recommending competitor's Apps because Apple's is so abysmal.

If Apple's Maps belonged to anybody else, it would have been pulled from the App Store by now.
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Noticed there was no link to the Apple apology for "falling short" (that I've seen over the last few pages).

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1457038/
 
declandio said:
I've seen another reference to this but never experienced any 'sponsored links' in Google Maps app or anything like that... are you sure they did that??
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It happened to me three times on a road trip with my kids this summer. iOS 5 w/ Google Maps backend on my iPad and iPhone.

If I searched the exact address for my hotel, it gave me directions to my hotel. But when I searched for just the hotel name and city, it mapped the destination pin to a "Sponsored Link" for a different hotel that had paid Google for the privilege.

You'll note the lack of outrage on the part of the Google map defenders.
 
The Cook apology is almost as insulting a Steve Jobs antenna one (some people are having problems, but there is no problem, but here is something to fix the problem, but don't forget there is no problem, ok?)

Sorry does not fix our problems. Apple need to release an update now to remove it until its working.
 
John.B said:
.... If I searched the exact address for my hotel, it gave me directions to my hotel. But when I searched for just the hotel name and city, it mapped the destination pin to a "Sponsored Link" for a different hotel that had paid Google for the privilege.

You'll note the lack of outrage on the part of the Google map defenders.
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You will see very little outrage, because I'm afraid this is a blatant attempt at flaming and completely inaccurate.

Yes Google has sponsored links, it does in all of it's products as a key aspect of its business model, but it absolutely does not force route you to another hotel / POI other than the one you've selected.
 
OllyW said:
The Swindon it found for you is a small village four miles away from where I live, not the large town that's 80 miles away. :D
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Cool. But it's labeled as a large town though. The large Swindon does not show on the same zoom level.
 
domrevans said:
The Cook apology is almost as insulting a Steve Jobs antenna one (some people are having problems, but there is no problem, but here is something to fix the problem, but don't forget there is no problem, ok?)

Sorry does not fix our problems. Apple need to release an update now to remove it until its working.
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But what actually happened after Antenna-gate?

They offered up bumpers...didn't actually fix the "problem"....it shut up the detractors and they continued to sell millions of phones.

His "apology" if you want to call it that is to shut you people up and bide more time while they make the map app "acceptable" in your eyes (it won't take much).

Meanwhile, there are plenty of people (yes, mostly in the US) that have little to no issues with maps (partly because they realize they are buying a phone, not a GPS unit...and let's be honest, being able to play Angry Birds on a larger screen was higher on their list of reasons for getting the phone in the first place)....

...and yet, they sold a record number of phones and will continue to do so.

There will be a "significant" update (which may or may not really be one, but they'll say as much) by late November so people feel even better and buy more phones as gifts for Christmas.

And yes...it will get better...
 
kas23 said:
Yep. So it now appears that since Tim Cook himself has admitted that Apple Maps is a faulty/inferior product, it's safe to say that everyone in this thread that has been vigorously defending it (saying its better, there's nothing wrong with it, you're holding it wrong, etc.) is wrong.
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Defending Apple maps have become a litmus test as to whether you are a mindless Apple fanboy or not.
 
OllyW said:
The Swindon it found for you is a small village four miles away from where I live, not the large town that's 80 miles away. :D
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i was trying to find it myself on google maps, but couldn't. i guess it doesn't exist

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kas23 said:
The apologists must still think they're right and everyone else is wrong.
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they are bad in some countries, OK

in NYC i've used them and they are great

between apple maps, navigon and waze i have no reason to use google maps
 
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