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one of the posters clearly said that he can see your city hall and you ignored him. Just because it doesn't list it directly as city hall doesn't mean it isn't there. Get real.

Actually...I don't know what the heck he is talking about now...dead end street?

Maybe he means another city hall?

If so,this guys got a serious hard on for Canadian city halls...:p
 
one of the posters clearly said that he can see your city hall and you ignored him. Just because it doesn't list it directly as city hall doesn't mean it isn't there. Get real.

Your level of denial is amazing.


Actually...I don't know what the heck he is talking about now...dead end street?

Maybe he means another city hall?

If so,this guys got a serious hard on for Canadian city halls...:p

Not everything revolves around America.
 
I am jumping on the apple maps sucks bandwagon. Friend sent me directions to a party. The maps sent me to a random neighborhood. My friend who was with me had an android had to fire up his maps to get us there.
 
I am jumping on the apple maps sucks bandwagon. Friend sent me directions to a party. The maps sent me to a random neighborhood. My friend who was with me had an android had to fire up his maps to get us there.

I'm sorry, you're not allowed to launch a complaint unless it's been officially audited by our resident denier, MozMan68
 
Actually...I don't know what the heck he is talking about now...dead end street?

Maybe he means another city hall?

If so,this guys got a serious hard on for Canadian city halls...:p

I don't know what he is going on about either but that SNL skit really shines here.
 
I don't know what he is going on about either but that SNL skit really shines here.

Actually, the SNL skit really wasn't applicable to the Maps issue. I mean, I know the skit mentioned getting directed to Dunkin when you're looking for a Starbucks and it made for a good laugh, but I don't think Chinese factory workers have anything to do with (nor are they to blame) for the quality of the Apple Maps data.

In my estimation, the blame for the lack of accurate data for the Apple Maps app lies solely at the feet of Scott Forstall and his team. There's no amount of workers at a Foxconn plant that can help manufacture Apple out of the jam it's in with Maps.

I've been mis-directed by the Apple Maps app four times now in Metro Atlanta. I have stopped using the app until I see some hard data from Forstall and his team that shows they've made tangible progress with the data their app is using. It will be interesting to see what (if anything) is said about the Apple Maps app at the event on Tuesday.
 
Actually, the SNL skit really wasn't applicable to the Maps issue. I mean, I know the skit mentioned getting directed to Dunkin when you're looking for a Starbucks and it made for a good laugh, but I don't think Chinese factory workers have anything to do with (nor are they to blame) for the quality of the Apple Maps data.

In my estimation, the blame for the lack of accurate data for the Apple Maps app lies solely at the feet of Scott Forstall and his team. There's no amount of workers at a Foxconn plant that can help manufacture Apple out of the jam it's in with Maps.

I've been mis-directed by the Apple Maps app four times now in Metro Atlanta. I have stopped using the app until I see some hard data from Forstall and his team that shows they've made tangible progress with the data their app is using. It will be interesting to see what (if anything) is said about the Apple Maps app at the event on Tuesday.

That's cool except Apple got their data from some of the biggest names in the mapping industry. Just that people don't care to research further and are looking for a scapegoat.
 
That's cool except Apple got their data from some of the biggest names in the mapping industry. Just that people don't care to research further and are looking for a scapegoat.

If you get a bad steak at a restaurant, do you complain to the farm or the one you paid and who served it to you?

I paid Apple. I don't care how or where they get their mapping data, I just care that it's accurate. Since it isn't, my problem is with them, not their sources.
 
That's cool except Apple got their data from some of the biggest names in the mapping industry.

Whoever Apple got the map data from -- big name or not -- those companies and their employees should be ashamed of themselves and their product. Also, Apple -- the most valuable company on the planet -- should be ashamed of itself for apparently not asking the right questions and not doing its due diligence in the discussions they had with the map data companies.

If I was Tim Cook or Scott Forstall or whoever was at these meetings with the map data provider, the first question out of my mouth would've been, "How accurate is your map database data?" When the map data execs throw out a high number like "99.9% accurate", I would say, "Prove it."

Little ol' me has found four errors in the map data in my local area without even trying. If I've found four errors, there's no telling how many errors there actually are around the world.
 
I'm sorry, you're not allowed to launch a complaint unless it's been officially audited by our resident denier, MozMan68

Hah...thank you, but I haven't denied a single complaint. Check again...if anything, I've agreed with all of the complainers or at least tried to get to the bottom of the issues.

To YOUR point...you post was made because he did exactly what I have been saying; makes a claim with no details. Does "directions" mean an address? If so, did it take him to a street with the same name but in the wrong town, wrong area, what?

Funny that you thought of me when you read his whiny post. :p

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If you get a bad steak at a restaurant, do you complain to the farm or the one you paid and who served it to you?

I paid Apple. I don't care how or where they get their mapping data, I just care that it's accurate. Since it isn't, my problem is with them, not their sources.

This is the issue (yes...I'm agreeing with you again)....there is obviously nothing wrong with the majority of the data, it's the way Apple is integrating it into their map. In some cases, it's like the two aren't even talking to each other. Except for Yelp...I have seen plenty of mistakes with their user submitted data that they never bothered to correct...
 
Holy crap, google maps took me to the wrong street! **** snaps!

Google maps SUCKS!

Now seriously...

I use iOS Maps for turn by turn and for me it works fine, granted i'm not searching for businesses but using REAL addresses and I have never been taken to the wrong place.
 
That's cool except Apple got their data from some of the biggest names in the mapping industry. Just that people don't care to research further and are looking for a scapegoat.

TomTom? Not really the biggest name in the mapping industry and not really any good at mapping at all.
 
Well...in certain areas...:p

Not really - it's just... bad. Like when you are standing in New York, searching for 14th Street and get "Madison Street"... in Paris!?!. Not knowing what you mean by "Golden Gate" or that "Van Ness Ave" defaults to "Van Ness St" in Sykesville Pennsylvania.

Feel free to get frustrated Yourself...
 
Even though I could see really bad routing when testing addresses previously, I decided to trust many of the "there's nothing wrong with it" crowd and use it yesterday.

I had five stops to make across a distance of about 55 miles. My first point went off without a hitch. It took a bit of a unusual round-about way getting there as opposed to Google Navigation but it was acceptable.

I then set a second point that was just into New York state. I was driving and looking at the distances thinking something was wrong but I let it do its thing. At one point I could see I-90 at an area approximately where I thought I should be turning but it said 10 more miles still to go. I just let it do its thing because it was a nice fall day and a nice drive. I finally got to where it said to turn. I turned and realized I was now on a road to the NY Thruway entrance (no sign warning) and I was stuck getting on a toll road. I then had to drive the toll road back to the NY line to get off on the other side of the toll booths to my destination. Maps had navigated me past the free road that went directly to the destination and instead ran me about 12 miles into NY and make me drive a toll road back to the same point. Not very happy at that point.

The third point was back in a large city. Things seemed fine at first and I realized that Maps had created a bizarre convoluted route to the destination when a highway to a single turn would have done.

The fourth point was to a location about 20 blocks from the prior point. I drove its suggested route but Maps was on crack again. It had me get off the primary street and start running me three-quarters of the way around various blocks on the way. There must have been well over twenty turns where two would have been the direct route. I'm not exaggerating. The direct route would have been left off the main street and then left again after two blocks and then drive three blocks to the destination.

The fifth and final location was a disaster and the point I gave up. I was traveling from the last point and it seemed reasonable until I drove past the last street that would have been the only sensible way to get to the destination. The route went on for blocks and blocks until i realized that it was trying to turn me ahead in the opposite direction that I needed to go. It was plotting a path to an Interstate to take me to yet another Interstate to drive me to the last location. What should have been a 10 minute trip it had calculated at 40 minutes. I finally said screw this and killed it. I then switched to Navigon to get a proper route.

Good lord, I will never, ever use Maps again. I can't fathom how anyone defends it.
 
Not really - it's just... bad. Like when you are standing in New York, searching for 14th Street and get "Madison Street"... in Paris!?!. Not knowing what you mean by "Golden Gate" or that "Van Ness Ave" defaults to "Van Ness St" in Sykesville Pennsylvania.

Feel free to get frustrated Yourself...

I had the same issue. I was looking forward to having useful maps on my phone. Oh well. The web based Google maps service has been painfully slow for me, as well. And the transit apps I'd previewed and was planning to get are now much less useful, because you can't switch to the Google Maps view (which on a low zoom level actually tells you what business is at virtually every address in my area).
 
Not really - it's just... bad. Like when you are standing in New York, searching for 14th Street and get "Madison Street"... in Paris!?!.

Where are you standing in NY when that happens?

If I'm looking at NYC and type in "14th street" it brings up a bunch of businesses on 14th street or that have 14th street in their name.
 

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Not knowing what you mean by "Golden Gate" or that "Van Ness Ave" defaults to "Van Ness St" in Sykesville Pennsylvania..

Golden Gate what? Bridge? park? Both of those come up in the search area if you just enter golden gate. There are probably hundreds golden gates in the country and the world...and it still brings those two up as the first choices...again, what were you expecting?

I happened to be looking at the Golden Gate Bridge from your first question and typed in "Van Ness Ave" and hit search and it takes me to Van Ness Ave in San Francisco. Where were you searching from and which one were you searching for?

Being totally serious here...I was not able to repeat what you claim.
 
Golden Gate what? Bridge? park? Both of those come up in the search area if you just enter golden gate. There are probably hundreds golden gates in the country and the world...and it still brings those two up as the first choices...again, what were you expecting?

I happened to be looking at the Golden Gate Bridge from your first question and typed in "Van Ness Ave" and hit search and it takes me to Van Ness Ave in San Francisco. Where were you searching from and which one were you searching for?

Being totally serious here...I was not able to repeat what you claim.

I want to say that I have been using maps around NYC and its northern suburbs. I have gotten from point A to point B perfectly. I also use Yelp to find POIs. I then ask yelp for directions to the POI and again no problems.

Just my two cents.
 
Even though I could see really bad routing when testing addresses previously, I decided to trust many of the "there's nothing wrong with it" crowd and use it yesterday.

While that's horrible, and I see Apple's Maps as a kind of swindle (they're ripping customers off by taking away a valuable service that customers paid for, without warning and without consent, and they're benefiting at customers' expense by forcing them to tolerate the growing pains of a half-baked system, something no one volunteered to do), couldn't you have compared Apple's routes with Navigon's or Google's before you left home?
 
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