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Wow. Apple Maps is a disaster.
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This part of the article is interesting...
Looks like he got too big for his boots. If he did defy his CEO in that manner it's no surprise he's been shown the door.
"According to two people who have worked with Apple to develop new third-party products for the iPhone, the relationship between Mr. Forstall and Mr. Ive had soured to a point that the two executives would not sit in the same meeting room together."
Ive said, "It's him or me..." and Cook chose Ive. Not a surprise...By letting him stay on until next year, they are recognizing his contributions to the company despite the recent missteps.
Fr all of the complaints about him recently, just remember that it was Forstall that basically came up with the interface we know and love today...he just got too big for his britches and lost touch of the main mission.
So has anyone even seen any of their reported errors fixed yet? Because none of the errors I reported on day 1 of iOS6 have been fixed. (That's over a month ago now.)
Some of the POI seem to be fixed in Yelp though, but they are all still showing wrong in Apple Maps.
Some of the POI seem to be fixed in Yelp though, but they are all still showing wrong in Apple Maps.
I've been using it to get to Toronto on back and all over the city when i'm there once or twice a month and never had a problem. Everything is where it's supposed to be.
"Maps+" is the best I've found. Free and uses Googles data
This basically sums it up:
http://www.cultofmac.com/196939/pre...s-completely-fixes-utterly-broken-ios-6-maps/
Another plus one for Motion X. I've rarely been disappointed with the results.
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I'm just curious- have you tried to get it to take you to Burbank Airport? Honest to gawd, I've gotten the most confusing batch of directions ever assembled in one place!
Maybe it's me?
Another 45 minutes and and appointment lost
Another 45 minutes and an appointment lost ... thanks to Apple Map.
All that because it was pointing me half a mile away from the right location (which Goole Map add of course : I checked that later).
Tim Cook can apologize all he wants but in the meantime the only option offered is "millions of people use and please keep using it (and wasting your time)" we'll fix it somehow.
Apparently fixing it with an existing solution is no option.
Honestly I don't give a crap about apologies as long as he refuses to gives us back an existing solution.
Another 45 minutes and an appointment lost ... thanks to Apple Map.
All that because it was pointing me half a mile away from the right location (which Goole Map add of course : I checked that later).
Tim Cook can apologize all he wants but in the meantime the only option offered is "millions of people use and please keep using it (and wasting your time)" we'll fix it somehow.
Apparently fixing it with an existing solution is no option.
Honestly I don't give a crap about apologies as long as he refuses to gives us back an existing solution.
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Knowing how bad it is I am surprised you blindly trust the Apple Map system ..... You could have simply used google maps using the web app or satnav if you don't know the area and it is an important meeting .. But if half a mile "out" made you missing your appointment - then you clearly cut it short to begin with
Knowing how bad it is I am surprised you blindly trust the Apple Map system ..... You could have simply used google maps using the web app or satnav if you don't know the area and it is an important meeting .. But if half a mile "out" made you missing your appointment - then you clearly cut it short to begin with
It's not a mistake you make twice, that's for sure. And that's the problem with maps, and why it should not have been released unless it was as a beta, alongside a functional google maps. Once it let's you down once, you lose faith in it. That is hard to restore, even if they are working hard to correct problems.
Apple also seemed to forget the way in which people use maps globally. Not only is it awful in terms of detail in many places outside the US, many places are also not as reliant on cars as America is. I live in London. I use maps a lot to navigate, to go to meetings (and personally I have no choice but to cut it fine), to find what's nearby, and so on. All of this is on foot. Even when I travel between cities I am more likely than not to take a train. Turn by turn is not a great feature for me in the way it may be for a customer in the US, and the loss of POI's and London features I am used to (clearly marked tube stations, etc) just makes it unusable.
So I had a bit if difficulty with iOS maps in the car. Switched to my standby MapQuest- and boy that was way worse.
At home I used google maps to find a location. It was wrong.
I guess it can happen to all
Maps. And garmin GPS wanted me to turn left in the middle off a bridge.
Nothing is perfect.
But for the mist part Apple Maps has been good. But with all maps, be careful.
At home I used google maps to find a location. It was wrong.
I guess it can happen to all
Maps. And garmin GPS wanted me to turn left in the middle off a bridge.
Nothing is perfect.
But for the mist part Apple Maps has been good. But with all maps, be careful.
Knowing how bad it is I am surprised you blindly trust the Apple Map system ..... You could have simply used google maps using the web app or satnav if you don't know the area and it is an important meeting .. But if half a mile "out" made you missing your appointment - then you clearly cut it short to begin with
I've also been blindly trusting it...but I've also planned plenty of time in case something goes wrong.
After all the bitching on here, I'm almost hoping something DOES go wrong, but it hasn't yet.
I have had zero issues with turn by turn/actual directions. I think the number one issue (at least in the USA) is the lack of or unintelligent nature of the POI's.
I work in London and I am shocked how much is spelled wrong - Westminister - really ?
At least most of the place names in London are labelled so they can spell them wrong. Hardly any of the towns in my area are even named.
I am living in a field apparently and next door is a cathedral which is 100 miles away ... Whether they are on the map or not doesn't matter - if you can't find it because it is misspelled then you may as well remove it ... Next town doesn't exist a all and there is a frikin river straight through which doesn't exist actually ..
No idea - It's almos they mixed up the towns completely (since some towns exist in several regions or even countries)
Knowing how bad it is I am surprised you blindly trust the Apple Map system ..... You could have simply used google maps using the web app or satnav if you don't know the area and it is an important meeting .. But if half a mile "out" made you missing your appointment - then you clearly cut it short to begin with
I clearly should have ... and will from now. So far it had just been annoyingly inconvenient / non user friendly. But had never been that wrong on me and with that much consequences.
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Absolutely !! Not once more.
So far it had just been a pain to use, but know I understood the hard way how wrong it is and what consequences that can have?
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Just
Another part of the issue is also that it is still the default app for geography. So when you click a contact address it will default to that **** app.
And it is easy to get lazy and do not go along the copy / open google maps / paste approach.
But hey ... fool me once, shame on you. Etc.
As far as location is concerned ... just imagine Switzerland (where I leave). Maybe the densest public transport network in the world ....
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You don't understand much about business do you?
Non-compete clauses are unenforceable in the state of California. Therefore by keeping him on as an "advisor" (a BS role so none of the competition can come in and scoop him up), they pay him a decent wage to keep him from ending up at google or Samsung if he does one main thing. Shut up and stay out of apple. The monetary incentive is enough to keep him in a holding pattern for 6 months to give apple a head start on what things will look like in a year without his knowledge.
The hidden meaning in Tim Cook's apology
I have read again the "apology" message from Tim Cook and have come to understand the true meaning of it.
And honestly I believe it is even more outrageous than if he hadn't written anything.
Actually, while he offers an "apology" the way forward as stated still relies on us using the map and sending error reports so their database can be fixed.
Basically, what that means is that they INTEND to keep sending us on erroneous location or at least believe it is fine since then WE can fix THEIR mistakes. Thus endorsing that wasting our time and all the noxious consequence on us are OK.
Developers and their management were just incompetent.
Tom Cook while "apologising" is just writing in plain English that our time isn't worth **** to him in the meantime as long as he can have his app. fixed.
That doesn't make me feel a "valued" customer, on the contrary. Obviously my time is worth nothing to him.
I have read again the "apology" message from Tim Cook and have come to understand the true meaning of it.
And honestly I believe it is even more outrageous than if he hadn't written anything.
Actually, while he offers an "apology" the way forward as stated still relies on us using the map and sending error reports so their database can be fixed.
Basically, what that means is that they INTEND to keep sending us on erroneous location or at least believe it is fine since then WE can fix THEIR mistakes. Thus endorsing that wasting our time and all the noxious consequence on us are OK.
Developers and their management were just incompetent.
Tom Cook while "apologising" is just writing in plain English that our time isn't worth **** to him in the meantime as long as he can have his app. fixed.
That doesn't make me feel a "valued" customer, on the contrary. Obviously my time is worth nothing to him.
FYI...I'm an executive in a $2 billion/year company....
1) The non-compete issue is irrelevant. Based on his level, they would need to keep him there for 2 years to keep what he knows from getting out to the competition.
2) He doesn't need the "handout" they might be giving him by keeping him there a few more months. And anything they do give him will be made public since he is a senior executive. If anything, he will be compensated through stock awards or options and arranged to keep what he has or get more by easing the transition while he leaves.
This guy ****** created iOS, was brought over by Jobs, was a valuable member of the leadership team....you fire the retail guy that was there for a few months and f'd everything up while he was there. He may not have had much of a choice in leaving, but I'm sure he had a say in it as well.
The loss of Underground/National Rail station signs/logos for a stock symbol is unbelievably annoying, before you could map your journey using tube stations without zooming in.
Now I have to zoom right in just to make out what the symbols are. This is not progress, what Google had/have was perfectly adequate and easy to use.
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I'm pretty sure there is walking and bicycle support. As far as I can tell it does everything the original maps app did but I may be mistaken