Very few parks, bike trails, or alleyways are mapped so, while it technically does have walking and bike options, they often want you to take the long (and dangerous) way and follow streets.
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Wow. Apple Maps is a disaster.
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Very few parks, bike trails, or alleyways are mapped so, while it technically does have walking and bike options, they often want you to take the long (and dangerous) way and follow streets.
Maps+ just had an update in the App store. Searching seems to be worki9ng so now I have a maps replacement based on Google Maps! YAY!
no I am not connected with them, quite the opposite, I gave the s##t over the stupid search not working. Seems all good now.
no I am not connected with them, quite the opposite, I gave the s##t over the stupid search not working. Seems all good now.
Good, Forstall's 'make all your apps look like a leather notebook' concept was getting annoying. Ive has a better eye for design IMO.
Just installed Maps+ to have a look.
No public transport support and no compass integration.
A rather non-intuitive interface.
Less useful than Google Maps web app.
Is it even worth contacting the developer to ask for improvements?
I suspect that Apple prevents competing map apps from accessing the compass.
And Google probably prevents competing apps accessing thr public transport API.
You have discovered the hidden meaning nobody has seen before, I am impressed!
Or not? Isn't it obvious maps can only be fixed by user feedback? That is how Google Maps got where they are today.
Even if they sent people around the world checking every street and POI like Google did with taking pictures of every street the maps would be as outdated as the google streetview images.
And they already said they start fixing stuff by having Apple stores reporting problems, but that can only be part of it.
No. It. Isn't.
Google Maps corrections from users form a very small, unreliable amount of their data submissions.
The vast, vast majority of their data comes from -
Businesses updating their listings within Google as a search engine, because your business doesn't exist if it's not correctly listed in Google.
Relationships with third party providers that are simply better than the ones Apple use, as all the good ones are already taken.
Street View - the street view cars don't just provide pictures, they collect absolutely tons of data.
A huge amount of staff (about 50% of Apple's entire non-retail staff) doing manual analysis and looking through things like Street View data to check street signs in order to combine the data reliably.
Apple just don't have any of these things, but they are were the vast majority of information comes from. Corrections and crowdsourcing are two different things, and if crowdsourcing worked Open Street Map would be better than Google Maps. It isn't (though it's still better than Apple Maps).
My two cents.
Very basic.
Will be reading more comments soon.
But I prefer Google Maps massively over Apple maps...
Props to Apple for taking on such an endeavor like attempting their own maps system. I have no problem with companies providing their own solutions...why outsource, ya know?
But there's a certain point in which you NEED to outsource until you can provide satisfactory results on your own. Apple needed to outsource maps to Google, and still does.
Apple Maps is a definite beta that should have been released in iOS 7 or something and have testing go on now...
The reason why I cannot upgrade is because I rely on maps sometimes. I have confidence in Google Maps and that it will not take me the wrong way...but I do not feel comfortable relying on something that is not thoroughly out of beta testing...
Very basic.
Will be reading more comments soon.
But I prefer Google Maps massively over Apple maps...
Props to Apple for taking on such an endeavor like attempting their own maps system. I have no problem with companies providing their own solutions...why outsource, ya know?
But there's a certain point in which you NEED to outsource until you can provide satisfactory results on your own. Apple needed to outsource maps to Google, and still does.
Apple Maps is a definite beta that should have been released in iOS 7 or something and have testing go on now...
The reason why I cannot upgrade is because I rely on maps sometimes. I have confidence in Google Maps and that it will not take me the wrong way...but I do not feel comfortable relying on something that is not thoroughly out of beta testing...
My town in the UK now has train stations in IOS6 maps. So there have been some updates. Although you have to be fairly zoomed in to see them. Google is still better here showing the actual Railway station logo that has been used in the UK for decades, and from a more zoomed out position.
(I was actually surprised that you can't search for train stations in google maps. You can see the symbols and click on them for directions but not search with a town name + train station).
(I was actually surprised that you can't search for train stations in google maps. You can see the symbols and click on them for directions but not search with a town name + train station).
So the app is less value to me (a value I used to have and paid for when I bought my iPhone). And now I would have to pay for it (with my time) to get it back.
To me, that's Apple stealing from me. Twice.
Good selling proposal.
And I cannot believe there are no reliable geographical DBs out there. They just went for a cheap one and intend to have us pay with our time to get the same value a good one.
i find apple maps isn't terrible but its not as good as google maps either.
what's driving me insane is that at least in my area there have been NO UPDATES to any POIs or wrong locations. i have submitted numerous error reports, many 3-4 times and not one of them has been fixed.
it seems as if other people are experiences the same thing with their error reports based upon feedback in this forum. why even bother having error reports if apple isn't going to do anything about them? people will quickly stop reporting errors because there is no response to them. i know i have.
if tim cook is sincere in his apology and wants to catch up with google, he needs to figure out a way to QUICKLY weed through all these error reports and make things right.
i thought they were assigning one employee from each apple store to verify this info. clearly in my area (a small city with one apple store) this person is doing nothing because there are some mistakes that anybody in the area would know right off the bat.
what's driving me insane is that at least in my area there have been NO UPDATES to any POIs or wrong locations. i have submitted numerous error reports, many 3-4 times and not one of them has been fixed.
it seems as if other people are experiences the same thing with their error reports based upon feedback in this forum. why even bother having error reports if apple isn't going to do anything about them? people will quickly stop reporting errors because there is no response to them. i know i have.
if tim cook is sincere in his apology and wants to catch up with google, he needs to figure out a way to QUICKLY weed through all these error reports and make things right.
i thought they were assigning one employee from each apple store to verify this info. clearly in my area (a small city with one apple store) this person is doing nothing because there are some mistakes that anybody in the area would know right off the bat.
Yep. Same here ...
They are probably expecting someone (who would that be ?) to do it for free on their spare time, much like they expect users to take on their own time to fix Apple mistakes.
I thought that Apple people where some kind of idealists at times ... I hadn't realised they were also still believing in Santa Klaus.
When iOS was first released, it seemed pretty good around my area. However as time goes by I noticed more errors, and it is frustrating that they are not being corrected. Even OpenMaps is more accurate than the 'professional' effort by Apple.
I've reported many errors, some on the first day of the release of iOS6. The errors include labels for businesses that no longer exist, a label for an entire village that is miles away from its actual location, and labels for businesses in my town that are blocks away from their true location (which is bad because our town relies on pedestrian tourism for much of its business). None have been corrected. I wonder if Apple is concentrating on the US. If so, then treating international customers as second-class users will backfire, because they are losing the good will necessary for crowd-sourcing corrections.
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I've reported many errors, some on the first day of the release of iOS6. The errors include labels for businesses that no longer exist, a label for an entire village that is miles away from its actual location, and labels for businesses in my town that are blocks away from their true location (which is bad because our town relies on pedestrian tourism for much of its business). None have been corrected. I wonder if Apple is concentrating on the US. If so, then treating international customers as second-class users will backfire, because they are losing the good will necessary for crowd-sourcing corrections.
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Did some editions the first day it came out - just to see how "effective" they would be. Nothing has happened (outside of some renaming). So I'm also done doing any updates to this thing.
But again, this is what you get for partnering with TomTom - shiat product.
What folks need to understand is that they don't just take your feedback and directly change their map database. If they did this, it would make it more difficult to import new data from their providers without messing up changes they made independently. So, all they can likely do is send your submission to whichever provider needs to see it. When that provider has updated their database, then at some point they will send a new dataset to Apple and Apple will import it into their database. It's a pretty big undertaking I would assume based on my knowledge of databases (I maintain a CAD database at work).
They might find a way around this but Google went through the same difficulties and gave up trying to make it work, abandoning their relationship with TomTom and others.
honestly i don't care how it works. i came back to apple from android because apple was all about ensuring everything worked without having to tweak/hack/understand everything. all i care about is that there's a known issue with APPLE maps, not some other company's. they put their name on it, it's their problem. if google had this issue before, i don't understand why apple didn't learn from google's mistakes. that's poor business thinking. they should have thought this through before launching it, especially knowing their maps were incomplete. clearly user feedback was going to play a huge role in fixing their issues as many people were saying before.
i'm sure they had numerous software developers working on this project for years before it was launched. if they haven't lost their jobs for the initial release, all of them should lose their jobs for showing no improvements to this product. it's been 1+ month since the final release (i believe it was in beta for several months prior) and no changes in my area (located in a city in the northeast US). in my field, if you overlooked such a huge detail you would lose your license and be sued for millions easily.
apple's competitive advantage is now. all users with ios 6 are forced to use apple maps because there's really no alternative. if they don't get their issues fixed before the release of google maps (rumored to be by the end of the year) i think it's over. users will no longer have any reason to use apple maps. i know if apple doesn't get their act together soon i'll be one of those people.
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yeah, i know. it's just amazing to me that apple overlooked this huge detail in improving apple maps. they can spend so much time agonizing over the background of the notifications screen but they can't figure out how to quickly and efficiently incorporate user feedback into improving apple maps?
seems as if they need to re-work their priorities....