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That is an utterly ridiculous statement. And undermines the rest of your argument.

Turn by turn is a useful feature.

But not when it takes you to the wrong place.

How's that? ;)
Apple maps are still wildly innacurate and therefore useless for navigation. They're useless for using in a car as your sat-nav replacement because the maps are poorly constructed anyway. It needs a complete redesign.
 
Turn by turn is a useful feature.

But not when it takes you to the wrong place.

How's that? ;)
Apple maps are still wildly innacurate and therefore useless for navigation. They're useless for using in a car as your sat-nav replacement because the maps are poorly constructed anyway. It needs a complete redesign.

I wouldn't disagree with most of that apart from your last sentence. The core data (ie road maps) is actually fine (in the UK at least) and just need greater detail for non-road users (ie foot paths, cycle ways etc). The issue is the points of interest which are close to useless and therefore completely untrustworthy (some are fine but others are clearly miles out). Personally I get round this by searching for addresses and then using TBT, which is brilliant. However this work around is obviously not good from a user point of view.
 
I wouldn't disagree with most of that apart from your last sentence. The core data (ie road maps) are fine (in the UK at least) and just need greater detail for non-road users (ie foot paths, cycle ways etc). The issue is the points of interest which are close to useless and therefore completely untrustworthy (some are fine but others are clearly miles out). Personally I get round this by searching for addresses and then using TBT, which is brilliant. However this work around is obviously not good from a user point of view.

I'd say road maps are (based on my experience of Bristol and Birmingham/Crewe/Manchester area) 95% there. There are some bits that aren't quite right, one-way systems missing, small roads not marked correctly etc. Footpaths and cycle-paths are needed yes. But there's no way to distinguish between A/B roads, dual carriageways and whatnot. Motorways are yellow, sure, but that isn't THAT helpful. If I'm on a motorway and looking for an alternative route because of traffic, it's pretty tricky to find the nearest A-road in a hurry.

But yes, points of interest are wrong and out of date.

It would be forgiveable if there wasn't a fantastic service available elsewhere, but there is. How I miss Google Maps!
 
I'd say road maps are (based on my experience of Bristol and Birmingham/Crewe/Manchester area) 95% there. There are some bits that aren't quite right, one-way systems missing, small roads not marked correctly etc. Footpaths and cycle-paths are needed yes. But there's no way to distinguish between A/B roads, dual carriageways and whatnot. Motorways are yellow, sure, but that isn't THAT helpful. If I'm on a motorway and looking for an alternative route because of traffic, it's pretty tricky to find the nearest A-road in a hurry.

Well according to apple, maps should reroute round problems and I'd be interested to know if this happens. Where I live (Inverness) we don't have motorways and the A roads are generally the only roads to other towns and the south!
 
Well according to apple, maps should reroute round problems and I'd be interested to know if this happens. Where I live (Inverness) we don't have motorways and the A roads are generally the only roads to other towns and the south!

The traffic data isn't that good, so it's hard to say if it ever would. It hasn't in my (limited) experience.
 
It would be forgiveable if there wasn't a fantastic service available elsewhere, but there is. How I miss Google Maps!

But TBT was never an option previously....

TBT has been flawless for me from an operational standpoint....as stated above very well, I think the BIGGEST (not the only) issue is the lack of or correctness of POI's.

Apple Maps has correctly taken me to everywhere I have wanted to go...what I really want though is to simply ask Siri for "directions to 'POI'" and have either all options come up or at least what I am looking for without having to give a specific address (which has worked perfectly where I have needed to go so far).

Example..."directions to D&W" brought up 6 locations...but was missing the one I actually wanted to go to...simply is not in the database for whatever reason...to me, that is frustrating, but didn't prevent me from getting there since I knew other info to enter.
 
The last two times I've tried Apple Maps in the city, it got me there, although one store it thought was on the opposite side of the highway. I see this also in my dedicated GPSs on occasion. I have reasonable confidence in the system.
 
Apple maps has been improved rapidly and it's only out for 3 months. I know it sucks for some of you out there but seriously Maps alone does NOT cripple the whole iphone5 experience and you can stop with the "I'm going to move to Android" threats. Yawn. Do it. But before so dont forget to think about Crippled OS updates/ Crippled app experience/ Crippled customer service and quality control. Other than that have a good time.
 
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Apple maps has been improved rapidly and it's already out for 3 months. I know it sucks for some of you out there but seriously Maps alone does NOT cripple the whole iphone5 experience and you can stop with the "I'm going to move to Android" threats. Yawn. Do it. But before so dont forget to think about Crippled OS updates/ Crippled app experience/ Crippled customer service and quality control. Other than that have a good time.

I did move to Android with the crApple Maps being one of the reasons and I have found Android to be much better than iOS. It is faster and I can do everything much easier on Android compared to the convoluted hoops I had to go through on iOS.
 
I did move to Android with the crApple Maps being one of the reasons and I have found Android to be much better than iOS. It is faster and I can do everything much easier on Android compared to the convoluted hoops I had to go through on iOS.

Yeah sure. Just so you know I'm an ex android fan boy and I'm still using Android phones everyday because I work in a phone shop and Android is not better than iOS. The only thing Android does right is the wifi/gps/ data widget. And FYI I got lost 2 weeks ago using the confusing Google map (web version) but Apple map got me to the place. But w/e enjoy your experience and have a great life posting threats like "Android is much better than Apple" in a forum called MACrumours.
 
What did you move to? Which hardware/software combo?

Samsung Galaxy Note 2.

Yeah sure. Just so you know I'm an ex android fan boy and I'm still using Android phones everyday because I work in a phone shop and Android is not better than iOS. The only thing Android does right is the wifi/gps/ data widget. And FYI I got lost 2 weeks ago using the confusing Google map (web version) but Apple map got me to the place. But w/e enjoy your experience and have a great life posting threats like "Android is much better than Apple" in a forum called MACrumours.

Just so you know, I'm an ex Apple fan and I actually own both iOS and Android products (unlike some people) and Android is definitely the easier one to use to do common tasks, many of which are impossible or extremely aggravating to do on iOS. And FYI, Apple Maps can't even find city hall around here.

And I can't believe you think "Android is much better than Apple" is a "threat". Should I expect an invasion if I burn an iPhone?
 
Apple map to the rescue.

My wife have always relied on Navigon on the iOS to get to her oppointments, but today Navigon could find North Queen, a street in Toronto Ontario Canada. After I calm her down, I told her to launch Apple maps and she was able to find the address. I guess even the best can fail sometimes.
 
Samsung Galaxy Note 2.

Just so you know, I'm an ex Apple fan and I actually own both iOS and Android products (unlike some people) and Android is definitely the easier one to use to do common tasks, many of which are impossible or extremely aggravating to do on iOS. And FYI, Apple Maps can't even find city hall around here.

And I can't believe you think "Android is much better than Apple" is a "threat". Should I expect an invasion if I burn an iPhone?

I was hopping between 2 computers trying to copy a handful of MP3s into the wife's iPhone. Due to iTunes refusing to copy on one of the computers I was forced to delete all music off the iPhone then restore all music. Took an hour including general faffing about. On my own Android its a 100% reliable drag'n'drop. Oh, and the album renaming on the phone, via iTunes fails (known issue with no fix is turns out).

Then she needed to bulk delete the photos that has previously been saved off the iPhone. Each one of 100s of photos has to be manually marked for deletion!

Getting off topic here but it looks like Maps are going down the same sort of non-usability route. Gap between IOS and Android is widening and not in a good way for Apple.
 
Synagogue in my hood...

If it wasn't for Apple Maps, no one would know there used to be a synogogue on my block. Heck, I'd forgotten about it myself until I opened up Maps on my location. They (no, not Apple) demolished the building years ago... :(
 
This is good to see

https://www.macrumors.com/2012/11/2...maps-as-eddy-cue-turns-to-outsiders-for-help/

Maps has been a total balls up. Good to see Cue is taking action. I don't doubt Apple will sort this in time, but what a stupid way to shoot themselves in the foot.

It's terrible news.

Nothing seems to indicate Cue is doing any of the fundamental changes of approach that will be required to fix maps.

As if shouting at their providers to have better data will help. If they could get better data, they'd already be doing it!
 
Yeah it's only been out 2 months, but Scott made it looked like it was almost perfect during the keynote -.-

Glad that Apple is taking steps to repair the maps. But I'm still abit mad because none of the changes is in the place I'm living...
 
Glad that Apple is taking steps to repair the maps. But I'm still abit mad because none of the changes is in the place I'm living...

Yes, this. I'm one of the users in Japan that Apple seems to be disregarding. I'm by no means fluent- I can read kana, but I'm a beginner at Kanji, making the Japanese alternatives not very useful. Google was bilingual-Maps is not. I know I should be learning kanji, and I'm trying. However, I don't think that I deserve to be lost in the meantime. Maybe if I'd never have had the functionality it wouldn't have been a big deal, but it hurts now that I know what's missing. Besides, I'm sure there were countless tourists who used the GM before...

I know that Apple maps will one day be a major upgrade for most of the world, but right now it's a major downgrade. To those in the UK and in Europe, I feel your pain-but at least with the maps being in the Roman alphabet, you'll probably get it working much sooner than later. Here for Japan...Apple's going to have to partner with a local outfit to make headway with the language and address system, and I'm not sure that's something Apple would do-although I hope I'm wrong. Hubby and I are definitely well invested in the Apple ecosystem and I don't want to leave. But, if Apple wants to pretend that Japan is like the U.S., I may have no choice. But let me make it clear- I want to stay!
 
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