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Wow. Apple Maps is a disaster.
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Well that certainly lives up to your screen name. If you're saying it in a sarcastic tone.
I still don't buy it. There are plenty of positive people and points to discuss when things are going right. Heck, if all anyone does is look at glasses half full and complain then they need to put their iPhone down and actually engage with life and other humans.
Yep, for all those had the worse day of their life when apple removed public transit and introduced new maps replaced the old, my heart goes out to you. Before you do something as novel as search the App Store for some useful options that will likely end up revealing even better tools than what you just lost, go hug a human and put the phone down......
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Yes, that's why this thread is full with hundrets of people compaining, while millions others are either totally unaware or happy they can now use maps for turn by turn navigation.
As already pointed out, about every public transporation around the world have their own apps out and whoever is not able to use London underground without an app is pretty non viable.
The worse thing about this Maps app is that we won't see an update until the release of iOS 7 in which Apple will then tout this as a "new feature".
Seems like once Apple releases software, that's pretty much it until the following year's launch. At least outside of issues that "fixes battery performance".
Seems like once Apple releases software, that's pretty much it until the following year's launch. At least outside of issues that "fixes battery performance".
it's too bad people are so quick to judge and criticize and so slow to praise. one mans genius is another mans idiot as they say. let's not look at anything good but dang can we focus on the negatives.
To be fair - most of them aren't passionate enough to seek out specific forums and vent their frustrations. So it would be fair to say unaware, happy, unhappy or looking at alternatives. We will know when the quarterly sales figures pops up.
Exactly I am totally baffled. This has been blown way out of proportion. Train stations show delays and what not, so I don't understand why people are suddenly lost not that Google is no longer part of maps.
Turn by turn worked fantastically for me. I didn't want to resort to this next comment but people who are on this forum I'm sure saw or heard that Google was getting the boot from maps, yet upgraded anyway.
You can't map every single city in a matter of a few years. It took google a decade to get maps as they are now or were on iOS. However, Google maps were always wrong for me.
I never realized that people who know where they are going can not get there now because Google maps are gone from iOS.
It is now Apple's fault that people can't walk the right or way or get on the train to their known destination.
I'm just baffled.
Actually we'll know when the sales figures 6 months-1 year from now pop up. I was already on the fence; the Maps fiasco has tipped it for me. The Google Maps transit directions were huge for me. The replacement is a joke.
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Incorrect. It is Apple's fault that their phones had a certain functionality that worked very well for a lot of people, and they took that functionality away, thus driving many people (including myself) to look at an Android phone for their next upgrade.
Its not that its the worst day ever, but if you live in the city, as I do in NYC, you essentially live by your mobile maps (by far my most used feature on a smartphone) to let you know when trains are coming or to see what that cafe looks like you are meeting your friend through street view.
Whats more is that the flyover feature is pointless and ugly.
This update makes mine, and all other iphone using city dwellers, lives more difficult which flies in the face of Apple's mantra, the reason we are Apple customers in the first place. One would have to be incredibly thick to downplay the importance of better navigation on a smartphone.
Exactly. Turn by turn worked extremely well for me and was smooth and loaded data quickly. It takes more than a few years to map the world. Googles maps are ten years old. Apple is starting from the ground up.
What amazes me more is that people know their destination but still can't get there now because Apple dumped Google.
I just don't understand.
Don't you think that's a bit unfair toward the countless customers who are, of no fault of their own (I know disagree that they are blameless), now unable to use several central feature of their expensive iphones.
I'm happy to praise Apple and have in fact have brought hundreds of thousands of dollars in business to them over the the past 20 years - through my own purchases and all the PC people I've converted. However, this time they messed up big time and I'm not going to pretend they didn't.
If Maps app was like this a few years ago with turn by turn navigation I would never have spent $99 on my TomTom app.
Steve Jobs would not have let this crap get out of the lab so soon and have it compete/replace a competitor's products which is YEARS ahead of it.
Tim Cook pushed this out to make iOS 6 look more "pretty" for the iPhone 5.
He screwed this up.
Steve would not have allowed this. He would have waited until it was at least as good as or better than Google Maps.
Christ - the Browser version of Google Maps has more details and accuracy than Apple's Home Grown version.
Steve is probably rolling over in his grave right now.
Tim Cook pushed this out to make iOS 6 look more "pretty" for the iPhone 5.
He screwed this up.
Steve would not have allowed this. He would have waited until it was at least as good as or better than Google Maps.
Christ - the Browser version of Google Maps has more details and accuracy than Apple's Home Grown version.
Steve is probably rolling over in his grave right now.
Why is the fact that Apple has decided to get rid of the perfectly good google maps and introduce the new map app that doesn't work for countless people something that customers should be understanding of? These are expensive phones that people bought with an understanding of what functionality was included. Now, for MANY people, that functionality no longer exists.
That's something I don't understand!
Well that certainly lives up to your screen name.
I still don't buy it. There are plenty of positive people and points to discuss when things are going right. Heck, if all anyone does is look at glasses half full and complain then they need to put their iPhone down and actually engage with life and other humans.
Yep, for all those had the worse day of their life when apple removed public transit and introduced new maps replaced the old, my heart goes out to you. Before you do something as novel as search the App Store for some useful options that will likely end up revealing even better tools than what you just lost, go hug a human and put the phone down......
The only reason anyone post a positive thread on MR is to spite someone or something else. Case in point is the "I like the new maps" threads. Another case in point is how you are only quoting post that are negative toward apple maps and post that are pro apple maps but conveyed in a negative manner. Fact is no one is impressed if a product "JUST WORKS" that's what its supposed to do, posting about that is pointless. "My iPhone makes phone calls! I'm a positive person!" /thread
I think the app is good in polish but lacking in features. And the maps themselves lacking. The driving navigation is decent. I just don't feel the maps and app excel at anything. Its not me trying to be negative I'm just posting how I feel.
They can;t. This idea has been patented
Default Applications are not some sort of shocking revelation. That concept has been around since the 90s (probably earlier). I get that people aren't being serious here, but the idea is just plain unpatentable.
I worked in NYC for several years from the days of a Blackberry only through a real smart phone. There are alternatives and google isn't gone.
I know its much more fun to feign umbrage and act unreasonable, but the truth is that Apple Maps is an important upgrade to a dated mapping application that has been pushed to users clearly before it was ready. Voice-Activated turn by turn directions for free is great. One day it will even find and direct you to the correct place!
All of these anecdotes about how well or poorly the new maps works for your house or some random sheep farm in Scotland are irrelevant. The app works beautifully in some places and abysmally in other places. This isn't an internationally newsworthy event. There are far greater tragedies occurring throughout the world.
Furthermore, your iWorld doesn't have to end. Google maps is available as a convenient web app that you can use to find your walking / biking / mass-transport / driving directions home with no significant drawback that i can tell versus the old app.
The world is getting better. Google is going to make a superior mapping app for the iPhone and Apple Maps is going to get phenomenally better. This is innovation and competition in action. The last wagon was better in every way to the first car except for the amount of promise offered. It seems like a lot of people would by analogy rather just keep painting the wood on the wagon.
Whining just isn't constructive and its unnecessary as one can easily use the old Google system while taking advantage of the new features offered by Apple Maps. If you wish to make your displeasure known, file constructive bug reports or complaints with Apple. I'm sure they have hundreds or thousands of developers right now fixing these defects as we speak. On the other hand, these 100 page threads of fanboy / hater rivalries are just annoying to any reasonable and fair-minded person.
All of these anecdotes about how well or poorly the new maps works for your house or some random sheep farm in Scotland are irrelevant. The app works beautifully in some places and abysmally in other places. This isn't an internationally newsworthy event. There are far greater tragedies occurring throughout the world.
Furthermore, your iWorld doesn't have to end. Google maps is available as a convenient web app that you can use to find your walking / biking / mass-transport / driving directions home with no significant drawback that i can tell versus the old app.
The world is getting better. Google is going to make a superior mapping app for the iPhone and Apple Maps is going to get phenomenally better. This is innovation and competition in action. The last wagon was better in every way to the first car except for the amount of promise offered. It seems like a lot of people would by analogy rather just keep painting the wood on the wagon.
Whining just isn't constructive and its unnecessary as one can easily use the old Google system while taking advantage of the new features offered by Apple Maps. If you wish to make your displeasure known, file constructive bug reports or complaints with Apple. I'm sure they have hundreds or thousands of developers right now fixing these defects as we speak. On the other hand, these 100 page threads of fanboy / hater rivalries are just annoying to any reasonable and fair-minded person.
Apple's Maps project started under Jobs. Jobs wanted to replace anything to do with Google a long time ago because of the Android betrayal. (That's a pretty good film title, isn't it?)
I am not looking for a fight.
But no ones why Google was actually dumped. Also people on this forum had to have seen or heard Apple was dumping Google maps. Unless you bought an iPhone 5, you had a choice to lose Google or keep it for a little bit longer. I do not believe that people on this forum were totally unaware that Google was being dumped.
The maps app is lacking but it is not a total failure (yet). Like Siri it will take time for the maps app to collect more data resulting in more accurate information.
I'd also wager that most people (not all) complaining here haven't bothered to actually report errors to Apple so that they may be fixed.
Dumping your iPhone for Android just because of maps also seems a little silly to me, because there are alternative apps that have been mentioned several times in this thread.
A fair-minded person would expect Apple to give users the choice of obtaining a Google Maps App from the App Store.
That way, those people who love Apple's implementation could continue with what they have, and those who prefer Google's implementation could download their preferred version.
That's fair, right?
Street View, an extremely useful feature is gone and the real point is the downgrade in ease of use. It should just work, as it has for years, but now it doesn't without having to jump through a couple hoops. My iphone5 is amazing, but an element that made my life easier, and many others, is gone. Its a very un-Apple like mistake..
Googles satellite image of my neighborhood is several years old, Apple's image is within several months. I can tell based on the houses that were built vs the empty lots on Google's image. Don't get me wrong, I don't actually want Google to have its Big Brother cam on my location, but they do anyway; and its old, just sayin...
Btw, the turn by turn works flawlessly, and Google was NEVER going to give it to us iOS users!
Btw, the turn by turn works flawlessly, and Google was NEVER going to give it to us iOS users!
Michael Grothaus is a journalist over at TUAW who has had a long-standing love affair with Apple products and has numerous relationships within the company.
"I write for TUAW. I've used Apple technology almost exclusively for the last 12 years of my life. I also spent half a decade of my life working for Apple. I still have dozens of friends at Apple in design, marketing, and sales".
He has just written a very thorough article on his painful decision to cancel his pre-ordered iPhone 5 & buy Samsung instead.
If you take the time to read in the article, you can tell that this was not a decision taken lightly and that he's really gutted about it.
The reason he gave is that, as a resident of London, a major city, he uses mapping on a daily basis. He's been using Apple Maps on his iPhone 4S and has found it to be completely inadequate for him. He gives some well researched reasons as to why he sees this not changing any time soon.
He also says that should Apple approve a Google Maps application and give him the choice to integrate it back into iOS 6 as the default, he'd be back in a shot.
Worth a read if you have a spare five minutes, as it covers all of the issues discussed in this thread & more. Personally I agree with 95%+ of what he says, but I doubt I would currently be able to tear myself away from iPhone.
http://www.tuaw.com/2012/09/24/my-next-phone-will-be-a-samsung-not-an-iphone-5/
"I write for TUAW. I've used Apple technology almost exclusively for the last 12 years of my life. I also spent half a decade of my life working for Apple. I still have dozens of friends at Apple in design, marketing, and sales".
He has just written a very thorough article on his painful decision to cancel his pre-ordered iPhone 5 & buy Samsung instead.
If you take the time to read in the article, you can tell that this was not a decision taken lightly and that he's really gutted about it.
The reason he gave is that, as a resident of London, a major city, he uses mapping on a daily basis. He's been using Apple Maps on his iPhone 4S and has found it to be completely inadequate for him. He gives some well researched reasons as to why he sees this not changing any time soon.
He also says that should Apple approve a Google Maps application and give him the choice to integrate it back into iOS 6 as the default, he'd be back in a shot.
Worth a read if you have a spare five minutes, as it covers all of the issues discussed in this thread & more. Personally I agree with 95%+ of what he says, but I doubt I would currently be able to tear myself away from iPhone.
http://www.tuaw.com/2012/09/24/my-next-phone-will-be-a-samsung-not-an-iphone-5/