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WSJ: Some Apple Vision Pro Buyers 'Feel Total Regret'
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it just feels to me like a product that was important within corporate Apple... but its users seem to have been somewhat abandoned now those internal battles are over.
I don't see the AVP as as the new Apple watch (a mass market product that had a bit of a shaky start) in 5 years I think the product line will have disappeared.
I don't see the AVP as as the new Apple watch (a mass market product that had a bit of a shaky start) in 5 years I think the product line will have disappeared.
He said this a few weeks after it was released as an excuse to explain the poor sales. He never would have said this before they went on sale. Apple was hoping for widespread adoption, obviously, but when it didn't materialize it was okay for him to say that...
I have one, and I use it at least three nights a week. I would rather watch TV/movies on the Vision than my 75" OLED and AppleTV. The AVP is not perfect, but it is pretty dang nice. I think this is the technology but not the device that will change media and virtualization.
It's definitely a great way to watch content. But then again, it's predominantly a way to consume media. Nothing wrong with that but it's overkill for that purpose. It's a bit of a one-trick platypus at this point
Hopefully Cook will be gone too
There is no doubt that these (VR) technology is future. However, it will only take off once it solves weight issue, lack of HD resolution and battery. Once they take care of that, it will be everywhere. But until then, paying for more than couple hundred bucks(because you are hardcore) is crazy.
Pretty sure that if Tim asked MacRumors people, he pretty much would have heard the same thing before wasting money, time, and R&D on this boondoggle...
You're so right lol. This is exactly me. I bought it in the US before it was released in my country, so I couldn't really return it anyways, but now it sits on my bookshelf collecting dust.
I wish Apple had gone the direction of a light, wearable device, similar to the Bigscreen Beyond.
I think you are probably thinking more of AR solutions if you're thinking it will be "everywhere"
I promise you there is no future where we are all encased in a VR headset at all times in day to day life, no matter the level of svelte form factor there.
Fools...you didn't think of the ecosystem. You should have been using Apple Fitness to strengthen your head for the hardware. You didn't think the AirPods Max was a sign?! This is all your fault.
This was a message snuck out of the distortion bubble Tim Cook is trapped in.
This was a message snuck out of the distortion bubble Tim Cook is trapped in.
But, but... that couldn't possibly be true 😹 Remember this article from last year?
MacRumors: Apple CEO Tim Cook Uses Vision Pro Every Day
Or the (literally) incredible lie that Tim Cook uses every Apple product every day
I'm a day one owner. I love it for watching films (especially lying down - just love it) as a PCVR headset with surreal touch controllers (mostly I just use it for flight simulator though), and as a neat way to check my own video/photo content at scale. That's about it. I also have a Quest 3 which I haven't put on in a year. I don't use the virtual display function much unless I'm on a plane because it's just not quite good enough vs a real physical display. Mostly due to the ghosting in the lenses.
AVP is amazing for content consumption no question. But that's not worth $3500 unless you live alone / need privacy / live in a tiny place with no decent TV / need to escape the real world for a while, or you fly a lot. (Great on a plane)
The major issues here are cost and weight. If Apple can get those down by half - they will have a winner here. But it'll never be a full mass market thing because human beings don't like to strap stuff to their heads for a long time unless it's glasses. Meta is losing billions on VR for a reason. And that's where the market is heading - lightweight glasses.
I applaud Apple for having the balls to release this thing and I'm really delighted I am able to use it. But this is no iPhone and it'll never be.
AVP is amazing for content consumption no question. But that's not worth $3500 unless you live alone / need privacy / live in a tiny place with no decent TV / need to escape the real world for a while, or you fly a lot. (Great on a plane)
The major issues here are cost and weight. If Apple can get those down by half - they will have a winner here. But it'll never be a full mass market thing because human beings don't like to strap stuff to their heads for a long time unless it's glasses. Meta is losing billions on VR for a reason. And that's where the market is heading - lightweight glasses.
I applaud Apple for having the balls to release this thing and I'm really delighted I am able to use it. But this is no iPhone and it'll never be.
Disagree, in general. I think Apple was wrong to sell this direct to consumers, while calling it Pro. Focus on very specific Pro users where this type of device actually does bring value. It does indeed bring value to many use cases. such as design, surgery, travel, exploration, etc. It's not ideal for extended sessions of just consumption.
The iPhone's killer app was the iPod. You have to remember that basically everyone was carrying an mp3 or other portable media player at the time and the iPhone meant you no longer needed to buy or carry two devices. Other phones played music, but it sucked. The iPhone replaced devices in a way the AVP currently doesn't and probably won't for a long time, if ever.
Then there was a good web browser, which at least for me made the internet actually accessible on the go despite having had a phone that was able to go online for years at that point.
Plus everyone had phones, everyone had portable music players and everyone used the internet all the time, which helped adoption as opposed to the AVP. And then came the apps.
I really hope Apple listens to these complaints. They've GOT to reduce the weight at least a little bit. That's my number one -
the resolution of the cameras for passthrough as well as the screens is still too low to serve as a fully fledged external monitor replacement for serious work.
Perhaps. It's certainly possible that if the technology were to ever shrink down so dramatically that it fits in regular glasses or contact lenses things would be different.
I'd caution though that the lesson from Mac history is also that it doesn't matter if you're the first to really make the paradigm useable. It certainly didn't help the Mac from all but being obliterated by Windows in the grand scheme of things.
Apple found their golden goose with the iPhone, but not before being all but bankrupt not too long before that.