twietee, sythas and wood, they infected chrmjenkins
was twietee the kami?
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[WW] DAY 4 HAS BEGUN,KOODAUW HAS BEEN EATEN BY WOLVES.
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was twietee the kami?
Sythas = Alphanus wierdus
Twietee = Kamikasus funnus
WoodNUFC = Regularus awsomus
Chrmjenkins = Infectus on day 3
Both wrong.
My guess because she really was opposed to outing at night. Undertaker would have had one additional scan that way. Weird wording to confuse ww a bit.
I was, because I thought it would give more ammunition to the WWs, and I thought we were being set up, especially as nobody seemed to be participating, and there was little information to go on.
Who were the other specials - DP was the undertaker - who was the Seer?
And, remind me - that stupid alert system meant that I missed about twenty posts - who are the WWs?
yeah, i did think twietee was setting himself up to be the one sacrificed if things went south
[doublepost=1452720657][/doublepost]gotta go to a meeting, be back in a 1-02 hours.
again congrats wolves
Pity you didn't go with me; I had decided to protect myself and we would have had an interesting exchange.
Yes, I assume d that the infection was in play by day 3.
Well played.
I protected DP N1, mrkramer N2 and myself N3, as I had begun to suspect DP (mistakenly, as it now transpires).
Who was the seer?
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Last night - N3.
[doublepost=1452720796][/doublepost]So, nearly got WoodNUFC early on, but didn't.
Possibly the worst ever performance by the village - not a single WW even fingered, and the infection successfully in play.
And the Seer was?
Who did DP scan?
To be honest, when DP only became actively proactive by N3/D4 I was hugely suspicious - and will admit that - unless he had come right out with who he was and what he had done - nothing would have convinced me of his innocence.
It struck me as incongruous that he was still alive. And mind you, I had eyes on Moyank and Plutonius, too. Very poor on my part - I was completely misled, and worse, misled myself.
Never suspected Sythas - because he is always suspected - and I thought that an easy cop-out. Twietee I like, - a sophisticated fellow European - and so - in the absence of compelling evidence or a strong argument to the contrary - am disinclined - or unwilling - to believe accusations.
WoodNUFC had a lucky escape early on, and, after that, I never noticed him. However, I was absolutely convinced that the infection was in play - it was the obvious thing to do to strengthen your hand further.
Two crucial moments - humiliating DP not considered- philbeeny got murdered while his colleague techgod could have brought wood to the gallows quite likely and that the leader of our pack was around to convince chrmjenkins to stop fooling around.
Who did DP scan?
To be honest, when DP only became actively proactive by N3/D4 I was hugely suspicious - and will admit that - unless he had come right out with who he was and what he had done - nothing would have convinced me of his innocence.
It struck me as incongruous that he was still alive. And mind you, I had eyes on Moyank and Plutonius, too. Very poor on my part - I was completely misled, and worse, misled myself.
Never suspected Sythas - because he is always suspected - and I thought that an easy cop-out. Twietee I like, - a sophisticated fellow European - and so - in the absence of compelling evidence or a strong argument to the contrary - am disinclined - or unwilling - to believe accusations.
WoodNUFC had a lucky escape early on, and, after that, I never noticed him. However, I was absolutely convinced that the infection was in play - it was the obvious thing to do to strengthen your hand further.
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FWIW WoodNUFC was a guess but I genuinely thought something was up with Sythas.
like I said in PM to my fellow wolf, everyone suspect me on day 3-4... wolf, seer or not
like I said in PM to my fellow wolf, everyone suspect me on day 3-4... wolf, seer or not
No, I didn't. Chiefly, because you have been voted off early (and unfairly) in too many other games. As with twietee, in the absence of compelling evidence or argument, I was not going to even consider targeting the pair of you.
An excellent WW pairing.
like I said in PM to my fellow wolf, everyone suspect me on day 3-4... wolf, seer or not
Even woodnufc suspected you. Really makes you think.
Tis a great example of why you kind of have to leave all previous WW games at the door. So much emphasis seems to be put on people who have been WW recently or guys like DP or Pluto sticking around for more than a few nights that the real wolves just glide on by.
If I was a wolf, why wouldn't I let DP stick around?? Everyone and their mother seems to suspect him.
Also, I was the seer and scanned SS the first night, and my scan of mrkramer was blocked the 2nd night.
Brilliantly played wolves.
Truly lousy play by the village, even with a supposedly strong team.
Truly lousy play by the village, even with a supposedly strong team.
Lousy may be a bit dramatic! In these games, you have to get lucky in the first few days until you can start building up some good info. The threat of infection also doesn't help any information you think you may have early on.
I say we start a new game ASAP so we can get some revenge!
Ah.
Well, I protected mrkramer the second night. And - as I have already said DP - the first night.
Yes, I take your point about not allowing previous games to influence - and I was especially guilty of that here, (and have already apologised for screwing up by targeting you) - but this is also how you learn the patterns, preferences and tendencies of others.
In fact, I debated between protecting you or DP on N1, because if you are on the side of Good, you are formidable. (Actually, as recent games have shown, if you are on the side of Not-Good, you are still formidable).
Why the hell didn't you even hint who or what you were?
Mind you, with the deadline stuff, I am not at all sure that it would have made all that much difference.
As things stand, by not allowing a Hunter to protect from an infection (I remember my horror as Alpha when an infection was blocked), as well as by ensuring that Hunter protection blocks scans, I think the balance may have shifted a bit much in favour of WWs. I'd suggest tweaking - or repealing - one of those two elements - not both, as they do add an interesting twist to proceedings.
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Okay - poor play.
But the non-participating players do get me irked. Sign up and play for (divinity's name removed) sake!
A few reasons.
The last time I was a wolf, i lobbied hard that I was a good guy, and I felt that if I did the same it would seem as if I was doing the same thing. There were already people who had said for 2 days they thought I was a wolf.
Another reason is that I didn't want to give the bad guys information they didn't know. I thought the threat of a seer may have been better than knowing we had a dead seer. And once I'm outed, I'm either dead or a huge target for infection, so nobody would have trusted me anyway. And the only way to prove it would be to out you, so then we would have 2 specials not really useful for very long.
'Twas a fairly quick loss, so in hindsight probably a bad decision, but what can you do?
Lol. I said that in our private corner once (because i noticed it only day two or so myself - what a relief!!), but it probably got piled under all the other stuff.
One positive thing about the not-so-new new mr format is the conversation thingy: so convenient!
Thanks to the pack, it's been a real pleasure howling with you.
And thanks for running the show @rick snagwell !!
i don't think we played poorly.
there was nothing to go on initially and as soon as there was, we had the WWs almost nailed down.
i do think (and say this realizing it sounds like sour grapes, but really it is not) that all the little changes added up to help the wolves way too much, so it was theirs to loose from the beginning. i never felt we had a good chance to win this game, too easy fro them to control the flow.
3+1 Wolves out of 15 is too much, when you include the weakening of the hunter role (blocking the scanning AND not protecting from infection) and going back to day infection (huuuge advantage), majority lock is also a big help for the wolves, as shown in the game: without it we still had a chance. the switch of the undertaker from night to dayscan is neutral, but i thought it was also sort of pointless so i wouldn't do it again.
the extra wolves powers should have been balanced with something for the village (better than the NW).
with the above changes, it should have been 2+1 wolves, and then it would have been ok, i think.
or 3+1 without the changes or some extra help for the village
that said, they played quite well until the end, when i think they became a little overconfident and could have blown it without a couple of lucky breaks. but it understandable as the game was pretty much over at that point
[doublepost=1452726962][/doublepost]for the record, as undertaker i scanned intell, meister and comeagain, all villagers. i was concerned the seer could have wiped out by chance at the beginning
i didn't think moyank was the seer, also because i thought at that point if she was she may have hinted something when on the bubble. so i thought (mistakenly) we might still have the seer and initially i thought chrmjenkins was, then SS)
when SS posted her sybilline post, i read it as a confirmation she was the seer, or a WW trying to mess around (since i knew i was the undertaker, and I didn't read it as a possible hunter hint at all)
I get home and the game is over . That's why I have always hated the majority lock.
Thanks for running the game Rick.
. That's why I have always hated the majority lock.Thanks for running the game Rick.
I get home and the game is over
Thanks for running the game Rick.
I'm with you on that a majority lock to speed the days is a great tool, but majority lock as a tactic is very so so.