[WW] DAY 4 HAS BEGUN,KOODAUW HAS BEEN EATEN BY WOLVES.

[Don't panic]

Bah, pure semantics I say.
Especially considering the theoretical exclusion of oneself when still a real factor. So I stand by my original post
4/9 = ~45% is better than 3/7 = ~43%. You even might have won the battle but definitely lost the war.

that i most clearly did

Edit: I can understand excluding oneself when making a list, I do that myself, but when talking numbers you should paint the whole picture.

agreed. but as I said it applied to all villagers, not just me.
in any case the point was that Techgod's outing the NW improved the chances for all other villagers to get a wolf
either 3/9 -> 3/7 or 3/8->3/6 (from the other villagers's perspective), but an improvement nevertheless. with me and SS outing, it would have been 3/5

it had no impact on the infection, since either of them could still be the infectee

 

[Plutonius]

This is a recurring feature in these games, and is one that I have come to find hugely annoying (and no, I do not mean either @Don't panic or @Moyank24 who always pour themselves completely into what ever role they are assigned).

Are you referring to me ?

If so, please make up your mind. Two games back (and every game before that), I was very active, did my color coded analysis and you unloaded on me after you got voted out . People were complaining so I decided to take a back seat in these games. It worked out well last game when I was a WW.

The only problem as I see it are people are more concerned about remaining in the game instead of a village victory. In the last game, the NW should have revealed themselves near the start.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Are you referring to me ?

If so, please make up your mind. Two games back (and every game before that), I was very active, did my color coded analysis and you unloaded on me after you got voted out . People were complaining so I decided to take a back seat in these games. It worked out well last game when I was a WW.

The only problem as I see it are people are more concerned about remaining in the game instead of a village victory. In the last game, the NW should have revealed themselves near the start.

No, not you.

Just those who sign up, and do not participate much, or hardly at all.

 

[twietee]

Hmm, thinking about it there were quite a few WW wins lately, weren't there? Not just talking this and last game (and the one before that too with Mo fooling us, wasn't it?) but it's been some months before that so not sure.

 

[Don't panic]

Hmm, thinking about it there were quite a few WW wins lately, weren't there? Not just talking this and last game (and the one before that too with Mo fooling us, wasn't it?) but it's been some months before that so not sure.

i think you are right. part of it is a balancing issue, part a participation/motivation issue.
i'll try to find the time to resurrect the scoreboard thread and update it

 

[twietee]

i think you are right. part of it is a balancing issue, part a participation/motivation issue.
i'll try to find the time to resurrect the scoreboard thread and update it

hm, we had a couple of games with a different format (my brain blanks, totally forgot how those were, not dying or sth..) but I remember our glorious win against all odds. Then another afterwards by you that I had to leave early but left some kind of sour taste IIRC (premature celebration or so ) ... I think my Wolfsmouth game was won by Mo as a WW too.

Hui, quite a lot and just of the top off my head (which partly blanks so take that into account as well..)!

 

[Don't panic]

6 consecutive wolves wins, i think, which brings the total to 8-8.
the balance has swung a bit too much towards favoring the wolves, esp in the last couple games.
it is important not to swing back too much in the next.

15 players is borderline 3+1 or 2+1.
3+1 makes it an easier game for the WW (2.75 points) so it needs some tweaks to help the village.
in this game the tweak went the opposite direction and furthered the unbalance in favor of the wolves.

in general i think infection should always be night-only, fairer and much more interesting.
guard protection should always protect from infection. the fact that the infection cannot ever fail is very bad, IMO, and it is a tremendous advantage for the WW
i like that the guard protection also block scans (makes its use more nuanced), but since this is a clear advantage wolves, it needs a compensation

 

[twietee]

Insta kill? Not necessary a village bonus though..

Don't forget the New Nightwatch though.
[doublepost=1452795778][/doublepost]But really, take away instant and fool-proof infectio and last game might as well could have worked out super different. Remember a fully fledged NW had one of us start D2 - still wondering what happened there but that's not the norm.

 

[philbeeney]

No, not you.

Just those who sign up, and do not participate much, or hardly at all.

Perhaps if I hadn't have been lynched by a baying mob on the second day, my participation would have improved.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Perhaps if I hadn't have been lynched by a baying mob on the second day, my participation would have improved.

Hm, I'm not sure that the small electorate who voted for anyone on N2 could be classed as a 'baying mob'.

 

[Don't panic]

Insta kill? Not necessary a village bonus though..

Don't forget the New Nightwatch though.
[doublepost=1452795778][/doublepost]But really, take away instant and fool-proof infectio and last game might as well could have worked out super different. Remember a fully fledged NW had one of us start D2 - still wondering what happened there but that's not the norm.

ahah, i think i know who would have been insta-killed....
but if hunter (instakill) and guard (protection) were separate, that could have made some difference, mostly because you have two specials instead of one, which helps the village even if the tot power is the same.
and yes, just having a night, standard infection would have likely helped

when did you guys infect chrmjenkis exactly?

 

[Sythas]

ahah, i think i know who would have been insta-killed....
but if hunter (instakill) and guard (protection) were separate, that could have made some difference, mostly because you have two specials instead of one, which helps the village even if the tot power is the same.
and yes, just having a night, standard infection would have likely helped

when did you guys infect chrmjenkis exactly?

just after he voted for me (the first vote against me) on day 3

 

[Comeagain?]

Well that was interesting...

Anyway. New Game!

 

[jav6454]

Yes, I have been re-reading the OP, too.

There are three WWs, plus an infection on one side. On the Village side, a Hunter/Guard, Seer and an Undertaker, plus the NW.

While I have long thought that the NW is an interesting idea, I have never seen it work really well, and cannot fathom its use, unless it is the fact that it serves as a private means of sounding out ideas and sharing thoughts with a comrade. Of course, the fact that my NW partner - twice - got infected and subsequently slaughtered me - twice - the same [artner on both occasions, as it happened, (@jav6454 I'm looking at you, old friend) when I was a part of the NW, might account for my jaundiced feelings on the matter.

Still, why three rather two members of the NW? Three makes it very vulnerable to infection, and thus, possibly, of questionable use.

Talk about old grudges eh my dear friend? xD

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Talk about old grudges eh my dear friend? xD

Grudges, no. Just the tweaks ands twinges of the aching scars of old wounds…..that occasionally flash me an unforgettable reminder of how they came to be...