[WW] WOLVES WIN!!

[twietee]

I think the voting record so far speaks for itself.

So far we have lynched three villagers.

Ravii has voted for all three.
I have never once voted for one of them.

Plutonius voting for me makes zero sense. Hence I conclude that he might be a wolf.

He can speak!

So instead of voting for ravenvii (which is your argument), you vote for Plutonius?

He has a point though. Voting for Meister is the easy way - wouldn't you agree? And to make it only a placeholder vote to follow up on mine is even worse.

I assume our seer - guess it was Melrose after all - is gone long ago. Melrose made a bold hint, unfortunately DP seemed to have missed it. Doubt though that all of you have missed it, Pluto made an half-serious statement that he'd rather not vote for him (becaue he off'd him the game before) but didn't actually do something.

I'd bet, if betting would be allowed in Wolfsmouth that is, we find at least one wolf among ravenvii and Pluto.

 

[twietee]

Oh and before DP tells me the odds of betting on that wouldn't be all that great: shut up!
I guess both are wolved with an outlier chance of comeagain (which I doubt though, Mo killing would be too obvious although his explanation for voting off mrkramer wasn't that convinving imo)

 

[Queen of Spades]

I'd bet, if betting would be allowed in Wolfsmouth that is, we find at least one wolf among ravenvii and Pluto.

I am far more inclined toward ravenvii. No one has anything compelling on Pluto in my opinion. We'll come back to him, I'm sure.

 

[twietee]

I am far more inclined toward ravenvii. No one has anything compelling on Pluto in my opinion. We'll come back to him, I'm sure.

Both are voting off villagers left and right? ravenvii piled on day one first and early - but somebody has to do it. His vote for Sythas looks super suspicious. As does Pluto's for mrkramer. Although I do agree that ravenvii is just as red as Pluto is on my list.

But seeing Pluto lynch himself is far too tasty!!

 

[Plutonius]

He has a point though. Voting for Meister is the easy way - wouldn't you agree? And to make it only a placeholder vote to follow up on mine is even worse.

I mentioned earlier that I wanted to vote for Meister because of his one word post.

But seeing Pluto lynch himself is far too tasty!!

Plutonius always keeps his word .

What was wrong with my mrkramer vote ?

 

[twietee]

I would bet you a $100 I make through the first day, ...

I'll have to go now, but that combined with Melrose's "sorry guys" posts days later and the fact that the hunter was still alive after he got lynched tells me he was our (lonely) seer.

I mentioned earlier that I wanted to vote for Meister because of his one word post.

What was wrong with my mrkramer vote ?

- True. I was just re-reading that. I remembered only the part about comeagain.
- mrkramer vote: well I think there were much better options available. Sorry, this isn't meant condescenting but I really can't follow up on why you would choose him over others.

Anyway, we do have time, so please let's not rush this!
Since I'm sick at home I will re-read the whole thread tomorrow once more.

Oh, and Meister, unfortunately it isn't all that great either not having voted for any lynched villagers too. I remember being quite worried wearing a vest way too clean once I was a wolk.

 

[Plutonius]

- mrkramer vote: well I think there were much better options available. Sorry, this isn't meant condescenting but I really can't follow up on why you would choose him over others.

We will have to agree to disagree then .

Anyway, we do have time, so please let's not rush this!

Switching my vote to no vote to prevent a lock while Twietee decides.

 

[Queen of Spades]

Switching my vote to no vote to prevent a lock while Twietee decides.

There's no lock in this game, correct? The rules say nothing about it.

 

[twietee]

Switching my vote to no vote to prevent a lock while Twietee decides.

Man, do me a favor and leave me alone!


Don't bank on it QoS, rick said he runs the game "kinda like Sythas" - and we had a majority lock in that one. Maybe a clarification would be handy @rick snagwell

 

[Plutonius]

There's no lock in this game, correct? The rules say nothing about it.

Post 32 indicates we have one.

Man, do me a favor and leave me alone!

People are still pissed at me for the last game and I will not be responsible for losing this one .

You seem to be the least likely to be a WW so I'm following you.

 

[rick snagwell]

majority lock in play.

 

[Queen of Spades]

Time to come out, I don't want to gamble anymore and I finally got a wolf. I am the seer.

ravenvii is a wolf.

Night 1 I scanned Don't panic and was blocked by the hunter's protection.
Night 2 I scanned Plutonius and was blocked by the hunter's protection.
(I'm on a roll here)
Night 3 I scanned ravenvii - wolf!

Out of what we have left, we can narrow it considerably.

3/plutonius
4/queen of spades - seer
5/twietee
8/ravenii - wolf
9/comeagain?
11/meister

So theoretically one of the four of Pluto, twietee, comeagain? and meister is our second wolf. A couple of things, however. Let's start with Pluto.

Either DP was the hunter or Pluto is. The scenario: DP protected himself the first night, for self-preservation and knowing he's a good bet to get munched first. Second night, he protects Pluto. This could imply that DP felt a reason to think Pluto is a villager.

Or, Pluto is the hunter and decided to protect DP the first night, again, it's a great chance for a block because DP frequently gets killed first. However, protecting an unknown player is risky, you could be protecting a wolf from a scan. That said, it might be worth the risk on an early block of the wolves, which would clear DP immediately for Pluto in a 2-for-1 scenario.

Of note: twietee changed to ravenvii to force a three way tie - a move that was really not necessary and potentially very risky if ravenvii went over the top. However, it could have also been a fantastic smokescreen (again, super risky and probably not necessary). I am leaning toward twietee's innocence here.

The Day 3 vote is actually very helpful. Meister came right out of the gate with an early vote for ravenvii. Good vote reading skills or smokescreen? Ravenvii's strategy this game (Captain Obvious) opens the door to some misdirection from his wolk comrade.

Hot list: Comeagain?
Cold list: Pluto, twietee, possibly Meister?

 

[Plutonius]

I'm not the hunter so it must have been DP. In the games where I'm the hunter, I almost always protect someone else the first turn (SS last game). It's more important to be able to protect yourself from turn two onwards.

I wished you waited before your announcement until everyone voted but I can see why you acted because of the majority lock. Throwing Twietee overboard and following QoS . Ravenvii.

 

[Queen of Spades]

Yeah, I obviously wanted to wait to see how today's votes shook out, but couldn't risk it further. I figured DP was the hunter, blah. Was really hoping to catch a break and have it be you.

Annoying, but the "kill DP first every time" strategy did buy us an extra day.

 

[Comeagain?]

Well ravenvii is an excellent place for us to start.

 

[rick snagwell]

thats 3 for ravenii, everyone agree that is majority lock?

 

[ravenvii]

Come on rick don't drag this out -- ravenvii

 

[rick snagwell]

Come on rick don't drag this out -- ravenvii

fine! your dead ravenii, damn wolf!

it is now NIGHT. send in your requests!

 

[Meister]

So instead of voting for ravenvii (which is your argument), ...

That was not my argument.

Since there was absolutely no reason to vote for me but the obvious choice was to lynch ravii, I suspect Plutonius to be a wolf. Or a very clumsy villager

 

[twietee]

Great job QoS!! Finally our much needed lucky break.

Damn, I thought Melrose's long excuse for being sick so weird that I thought he was the seer - seems he was indeed only a lonely gamblin' man dedicating his life to all sorts of liquors.

I agree on comeagain? then. Pluto being a clumsy villager? sounds about right

 

[twietee]

People are still pissed at me for the last game and I will not be responsible for losing this one .

Plutonius always keeps his word .

 

[Plutonius]

Great job QoS!! Finally our much needed lucky break.

Damn, I thought Melrose's long excuse for being sick so weird that I thought he was the seer - seems he was indeed only a lonely gamblin' man dedicating his life to all sorts of liquors.

I agree on comeagain? then. Pluto being a clumsy villager? sounds about right

Now I see why lolobo probably dropped out.

I'm not sure why my placeholder for meister was clumsy. It did get him to start posting more.

Comeagain? is the most likely due to his missing the vote on day2 and saving ravenvii on day3. With my record lately, I'm probably wrong .

What are we waiting on ?

 

[twietee]

Now I see why lolobo probably dropped out.

I'm not sure why my placeholder for meister was clumsy. It did get him to start posting more.

What are we waiting on ?

Why did he drop out? Are we too hostile? I'm just messing around with ya!

We wait for some nightly action, no?

 

[Plutonius]

Why did he drop out? Are we too hostile? I'm just messing around with ya!

We wait for some nightly action, no?

When he saw he had the seer role, he decided to drop out .

 

[Comeagain?]

Comeagain? is the most likely due to his missing the vote on day2 and saving ravenvii on day3. With my record lately, I'm probably wrong .

Well, you are wrong. And if I were a wolf, I wouldn't want to draw attention to myself with a mistake like that. Especially since I've been burned (or hanged?) by that before.