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That was way back before I read this article on Stoakley-Seaburg in November.

No I agree. I saw that whole drama real-time.

This was the first time I found out about these helpful multi-core management support chips that won't ship in quantity until later this quarter.

Technically, sampling in January and available for accumulation on approval This is January.

Since then I've been saying Spring NAB. I never believed the January rumor. :rolleyes:

Well . . . you did at one entertaining point. Lasting weeks. Need a cite?

Rocketman
 
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gugy said:
While this used to be true... with the loss of MWNY/MWBoston, WWDC has become a consumer release event.

2006: Intel Mac Pro, Xserve
2005: Apple moving to Intel
2004: Previews Tiger, 30" Cinema Display
2003: PowerMac G5 announced

http://guides.macrumors.com/WWDC

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Arn,
I am confused by your post.
It clearly shows that WWDC is mostly a Pro event.
I would say that MWSF is mostly a consumer event not WWDC.

The original poster said it was a Developer's conference so not to expect "consumer" products....





I was pointing out it has had several consumer (vs developer) announcements. I wasn't breaking consumer down into consumer vs prosumer...
 
The original poster said it was a Developer's conference so not to expect "consumer" products....I was pointing out it has had several consumer (vs developer) announcements. I wasn't breaking consumer down into consumer vs prosumer...

I think he means iPods, iMacs, MacBooks, etc as "consumer" goods - which is just a way of illustrating how awful that word is, beyond its use to denigrate people as mere sources of cash.

I like to use 'customers' in the general case, but for this level of specificity "home users" and "professional users" might be more helpful.

I hate that word too - computer manufacturers and drug dealers are the two groups who call their customers "users". Bleh.
 
Ensure and insure are synonyms. Look it up.

Go to your dashboard, dictionary widget, type in 'insure' and go down to USAGE for more information.

There is some synonymous use in American English but for the erudite image, use insure for financial instruments and ensure for efforts to guarantee outcomes. No, you don't have to, but your writing will be more clear to many people and they'll think more highly of your vocabulary. I find the same principle applies to fewer (countable items) and less (degrees of quantity) - once you go more specific you rarely go back. English rules for its high degree of specificity thorough its enormous vocabulary.

We can all now take a moment of silence to reflect on the passing of begging the question as a meaningful idiom.
 
I hate that word too - computer manufacturers and drug dealers are the two groups who call their customers "users". Bleh.

Epiphany! I'd never thought of it like that, but you're absolutely right. Learn something new every day. From here on in, we'll refer to our customers as customers, not addicts.

Although addict may be the correct term for all of us reading the rumor threads....;)
 
What worries me is that the iPhone comes out in June...I hope they talk about something else for the majority of this particular keynote.
 
Although addict may be the correct term for all of us reading the rumor threads....;)

Sure that hit the bullseye :D

June 11th? Geez, and I was so eager to spend my money on Leopard anytime soon, I would even deal with the 10.5.0 quirks and bugs..., but now June seems like a lot of time, it feels like we are ALWAYS waiting on Apple to just give us what we want but they keep delaying it, it's a method of torture :)

I know it's a strategy but announcing the iPhone 6 months before it's release it's like losing your virginity and only experience it 6 months later... it sucks it sucks... :)
 
Each seed of 10.5 has seen the odd new little thing pop up, for example, there is a new look Network Preference Pane, nothing major by a long shot, but I think it's vast improvement as it makes it easier to see what is going on. There are no massive Top Secret features in the latest seed, and if there are then they aren't exactly obvious.

If there are doing to be new features and things that developers have to work with, then we are going to need time to get our products ready for 10.5, what's the point in releasing an OS if most of the developers have not had a chance to test, let alone have to re-code their applications to work under 10.5. Not all apps just need a simple recompile, some integrate at a very low level with the OS and could need a lot of recoding to get them to work, as was the case with going from 10.3 to 10.4, and to a somewhat similar extent from PPC to Intel (in the same was as it was from 68k to PPC all those years ago).

I'm not expecting to see 10.5 until mid to late June, which would tie in with the "Spring 2007" date that has been mentioned, and also tie in with the rumors about the date of WWDC. If I recally correctly, the end of spring is 21st June, so I'm expecting an anouncement about the Top Secret features and anything else to be between now and April. The ship date will still be mentioned as spring, and more than likley we'll see 10.5 released at the rumored mid june WWDC.
 
Hmm... I would think that Apple still has to have an event soon to unveil Leopard and iLife, although this could be when Leopard is actually released.

I think this is a lot more likely than total silence on Leopard for the next five months.
 
June 10th you reckon?

I think you'll find the biggest clue from iCal. WWDC, one day event; July 17th. No question.
 
late June also ties in with the Intel Penryn (45nm Core 2 chips with more L2, higher frequence, some new instructions) roadmap. Both Penryn and the supporting chipsets Seaburg/Bearlake are targetted at Q3 2007 AFAIK.
 
june 15th is the last week of spring... =/

i hope they release leopard earlier than that! or else we can't complain if they release it only in june...june is "spring 07" as march...
 
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