WWDC 2007 Keynote Scheduled: Monday, June 11th 2007

[Clive At Five]

All they would have to do is update the website.... The current mac osx leopard sneek peek is a great page... just add more features.

I don't think it's as effective without seeing a complete demonstration. Yeah the 30-second clips are nice, but it's hard to get the big picture into things... like a lot of the times, the new features are integrated... the Mail/iCal ToDos and whatnot, for example. Plus if it's something Earth-Shattering, you know S.J. will want to show it first... just like everything else. Greedy bastard.

and what would they talk about during WWDC? the IPHONE. There is some part of me, that is scared that the iphone will take over yet another keynote.

I think S.J. knows that developers will boo him off the stage if he does even more than mention the iPhone... unless, as you say, he opens it up to Devs.

"but don't worry, more on leopard/ilife/iwork later"

Hey, remember when Amazon listed iLife and iWork on their website? Hehehe. That's amuzing, looking back. I really don't mind that much about either. I'm doing fine at this point. iWeb could use some help and I'd like a spreadsheet app, but otherwise I'm fine.

-Clive

 

[AidenShaw]

WWDC is the perfect opportunity for Apple to do it.

But why a *developer's* conference, where the focus is supposed to be on the geeks writing the code?

Wouldn't it make more sense to have something like a summer MacWorld event - focussed on users?

Maybe even, to think differently, have the summer MacWorld on the East coast - rather than yet another San Francisco event.

It's really a good idea - to have a summer/early fall MacWorld on the east coast. Boston would be perfect - a city on a human scale, much more pleasant (and cheaper) than one of the huge cities further south.

 

[shawnce]

I think S.J. knows that developers will boo him off the stage if he does even more than mention the iPhone... unless, as you say, he opens it up to Devs.

Personally I hope Apple puts an iPhone under every seat at the Keynote like they did with iSight camera at an earlier WWDC ...of course I hope for that because I am going to WWDC 07.

 

[shawnce]

That's why I find it strange they're not waiting for Leopard, but pushing ahead with the iPhone OS branch. If there were problems with the iPhone development, then why not delay it, and release it simultaneously or just after the Leopard release when they could focus just on the iPhone?

Simply because missing the iPhone release screws up their contractual agreements with AT&T, their chance to beat some of their competitors to market, and would waste some of the PR buzz currently existing around the iPhone. Leopard however is an upgrade to a well establish product line, one that can handle a delay without affecting contracts or much loss of a potential market (Tiger holds its own well enough against Vista).

 

[macFanDave]

They were going to have a 3 hour keynote, but. . .

they had to borrow senior speechwriters and slidemeisters for the iPhone project!

 

[Marble]

Boy, I know this is hysteric but we've been seeing a lot of "bait and switch" from Apple, even down to the 3 hour keynote getting our hopes up for something special and then being changed.

 

[DakotaGuy]

I do think the majority of the 1 1/2 hours will be spent on the iPhone. This is Steve's baby and this is where he wants to take the company. Leopard will be talked about and shown, however it will not be the focus. There might be some talk about a new version of iLife as well. As far as the whole iWork thing is concerned, I think Steve has realized that he cannot compete with Microsoft when it comes to an office suite. I am in no way a M$ fan, however Office for Mac is a great product. Isn't there a new version of Office right around the corner anyhow? If Apple does not have enough software engineers to get Leopard out this spring I highly doubt they are spending much time on iWork. I assume that a new iLife will come the same time as Leopard.

 

[Jookbox]

55 days 11 hours 39 minutes...

until my new macbook pro become outdated, lol

 

[Dustman]

I'm really getting bored of their hardware.. the macpro case has barely changed in the past 2 years.. iMac is still using the original g5 case.. only thinner.. and the only thing thats different about the mini and macbook/pros is the processor.

Edit: i guess the macbooks have changed a little bit.. the blackbook is rather attractive : ) more innovation apple, comeon. make us remember what design geniouses you are!

 

[peharri]

The fact it's really just an hour and a half is actually disappointing, that suggests there will not be a lot to talk about. I expect:

* Brief mention of the iPhone, possibly with a five minute demo. It's important enough to get a mention but, being closed, just isn't relevant to the WWDC
* A new/upgraded Mac or two. If I had to guess, I'd go for a revamp of the Macbook Pro line, a better look or something.
* Most of the focus on Leopard, including the previously unrevealed new features.

I'd like to think a handheld computer - a phoneless iPhone - might make an appearance, but I think Apple will actually want to establish the iPhone first before doing that. The rumoured "Wifi iPod" might be it, but unless it's programmable I don't expect it to show up at WWDC, and I don't think, thinking about it, Apple wants the version ones to be programmable. That will come later.

 

[topoftherock]

Should I buy.

Ok, Im a newb, dont bash me for a semi-repeat of a question but really looking to you guys on this one.

I am in the market for a new Mac and I have a few questions.

1. Should I wait til after WWDC to make a jump. See if any new hardware is coming out ie, Blk iMac or Possibly Power Mac redesigns? Not to mention any shipping date on the new OS

2. In your opinions, and I know this is a very subjective question, but I'd like to hear it anyway. I want to go with Power Mac 8 Core with cinema display or 17inch Mac Book with Cinema. Ive never seen a Mac Book with the cinema display, any issues with video card or performance.

So wait or don't wait, that is the question. And which to go with? hahaha

Thanks guys.

 

[Clive At Five]

But why a *developer's* conference, where the focus is supposed to be on the geeks writing the code?

Wouldn't it make more sense to have something like a summer MacWorld event - focussed on users?

Maybe even, to think differently, have the summer MacWorld on the East coast - rather than yet another San Francisco event.

It's really a good idea - to have a summer/early fall MacWorld on the east coast. Boston would be perfect - a city on a human scale, much more pleasant (and cheaper) than one of the huge cities further south.

Is this a test? Didn't MacWorld Boston get canceled a few years ago because it wasn't viable for Apple anymore... just like sattellite feeds and all that nonsense? What's wrong with the annual Apple Expo Paris? Though there hasn't been much from apple in the past couple years, as far as I know, Apple is still present at the Expo...

*shrugs*

Either way, I think a developers confrence is more critical than a consumer confrence. Devs need to unite to get good ideas and bond over stuff. They deserve an event for all the hard work they do so that we, the consumer, have as great of a Mac experience as possible.

-Clive

 

[Cult Follower]

They must be having some other kind of event, because steve will never fit everything into that time slot.

 

[Clive At Five]

Ok, Im a newb, dont bash me for a semi-repeat of a question but really looking to you guys on this one.

I am in the market for a new Mac and I have a few questions.

1. Should I wait til after WWDC to make a jump. See if any new hardware is coming out ie, Blk iMac or Possibly Power Mac redesigns? Not to mention any shipping date on the new OS

2. In your opinions, and I know this is a very subjective question, but I'd like to hear it anyway. I want to go with Power Mac 8 Core with cinema display or 17inch Mac Book with Cinema. Ive never seen a Mac Book with the cinema display, any issues with video card or performance.

So wait or don't wait, that is the question. And which to go with? hahaha

Thanks guys.

First of all, probably not the right forum, but since it's loosely WWDC-based, I don't have any reason not to answer it.

Secondly, you should know that no new software will ship at WWDC, so if that's what you're looking for, you'll have to wait until October, it seems. As for hardware, I doubt Apple will release a black iMac since the current model seems to be approaching the end of its life. And seeing as how the Mac Pro got a BTO speed bumb, I doubt they'll go all out with a redesign any time soon. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, Apple typically updates the iMac first before refreshing the rest of the line. So if anything, there might be hardware tweaks, but nothing else.

Intel's Santa Rosa is coming in May. Nobody knows how quickly Apple will implement the technology into its laptop line, but those are starting to show age as well... I would guess that those will be updated before WWDC, but you guess as probably as good as mine.

Hope this helps.

-Clive

If you're thinking about getting the 8-core MacPro, it appears as though probably have ample fund to splurge now and but Leopard for a meas

 

[AidenShaw]

Is this a test? Didn't MacWorld Boston get canceled a few years ago because it wasn't viable for Apple anymore...

Not viable? LOL !


If the summer MacWorld wasn't viable, then why is Apple reforming WWDC into the summer MacWorld?

The Steve threw a hissy fit and backed out of MacWorld when IDC moved it back to Boston from New York - but now it's obvious that it did fulfill a need (The Steve's need to be on a stage - but still a need).

 

[matticus008]

Not viable? LOL !

If the summer MacWorld wasn't viable, then why is Apple reforming WWDC into the summer MacWorld?

Attendance at Boston was way, way, way down. It's not worth the effort to put on a whole separate show for a summer Macworld and to do WWDC as well, never mind the pointless expense of putting on a show on the East Coast for no apparent reason. The keynote isn't a developer event, and WWDC's not a summer Macworld.

Using the keynote at WWDC to present to the media and to fans makes sense. You've already got the venue, you've already moved in the infrastructure, and you've already got the audience.

WWDC is still developer-centric outside of the keynote. The keynote never was of any real value to developers anyway, so using it to launch new products and talk about features doesn't cause any sort of loss. Don't let the keynote fool you. WWDC is still all about the developers as soon as you step out of the room, which is immediately evident to those who have attended.

The WWDC keynote replaced the summer Macworld keynote. WWDC hasn't been reformed into anything.