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Either scalpers have swooped in or there are a lot more geeks that just want to attend the conference.

I was seriously disappointed when I attended last years one, the Apple engineers couldn't answer either of my questions, the presentations only reaffirmed what I already knew or pointed to documentation / demo code that every developer got for free anyway.

If you are a serious developer and want to attend the conference to actually learn its a serious disappointment. But I guess most conferences are just to network and geek it up which is why it sold out I guess.
 
And yet, no new iPhone will be present ... I predict a lot of attending hearts will be broken!

This is for developers, they come to see what kind of software they need to develop. They don't really care for hardware, and they don't pay this much just to see the announcement of the iPhone, something they could have seen online or just read about. This is all about discussing what Apple wants developers to do in their programming.
 
WWDC 2003: PowerMac G5, iLife.

WWDC 2004: 23 and 30 inch cinema displays, iTunes 4.9

WWDC 2006: Mac Pro

WWDC 2008: iPhone 3G

WWDC 2009: iPhone 3GS, 13 inch MacBook Pro, and bumps to the 15/17 Pros.

WWDC 2010: iPhone 4


There is a lot of precedent for hardware and software announcements at WWDC, including a lot of stuff that doesn't directly impact developers. It's a big media event, and Apple saves on throwing two events close together in the summer by announcing things at WWDC.

Yes, its the hardware that keeps the developers in business. WWDC should not be exclusively about software and even Apple agrees judging from the list above.

Maybe they will feature the Macbook Air Revision this year ;)
 
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Next Year is going to suck for buying tickets.

If we went from 8 days to 12 hours what will next year be like?

16 mins. ;)

...then 20 secs, then 24ms, then 28 nanoseconds!! :eek:
 
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Has MacRumors got their pass?
 
This is for developers, they come to see what kind of software they need to develop. They don't really care for hardware, and they don't pay this much just to see the announcement of the iPhone, something they could have seen online or just read about. This is all about discussing what Apple wants developers to do in their programming.

Please, its about both. For you cannot have software development without the hardware.

iOS 5 seems to be a draw this time. Sure hope there is enough there to make folks feel like they got their monies worth.
 
love the avatar

There's an old saying, " What good is the hardware without the software?" ;)

You have an evil avatar :) I was trying to squash the bug for a few seconds before I realized that it was a gif.
I hate it when bugs crawl on my screen.
 
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I'm not sure many would agree with you on that. Apple has always been a hardware company. Just because their software drives their hardware doesn't mean they are software focused. If they were primarily a software company, they would have gone the way of Microsoft and put out MacOS to run on any generic PC box. But we all know their take on that. Just to drive my point home, when was the last time Apple released a piece of software that people went nuts about and stood in lines for hours to get?

They've said themselves that they are primarily a software company. Just ask Steve.

Do you think anyone would be camping out for the latest iToy if it came without an OS out of the box?
 
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As long as iOS and Lion are HUGE updates, I don't mind there not being an iPhone 5 at WWDC.
 
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I think it will be more like $79...
 
Maybe they should just have Candlestick park for a separate event for people that just want to see the keynote.

So these guys pay $1000 to NOT see a keynote?? .... I think you see the obviou$ flaw in your logic. That's like having a Presidential fundraiser and the Presidential candidate not showing up because he's across the street, in the park, kissing babies and shaking hands. Yeah, the similarity isn't that close, but it's good enough for an example.
 
Maybe they will feature the Macbook Air Revision this year ;)

The Macbook Air got an event presentation in Octobre, it's not getting another event spot for what will be a spec bump. It's getting a silent update next.

Mac hardware has not really gotten any keynote time in the last few years. It's mostly been silent updates, even the Mac Mini redesign just showed up one morning.

So these guys pay $1000 to NOT see a keynote??

I'd wager the people paying 1000$ for WWDC don't do it for the keynote (hint, developers going to developer workshops). The keynote is just icing.
 
And yet, no new iPhone will be present ... I predict a lot of attending hearts will be broken!

Why? :confused:

This is a Developers Conference where they are there to get hands on and see the New software Platforms Apple is adopting so they enhance the applications for the Developers Apps (where it be for the IOS market or Mac Market)

:apple: for life, Google, MS, HTC, Motorola, Sumsung, start your photocopiers on June 6 lol
 
No hardware in WWDC '11?
Apple always said they are about Software and Hardware, well then it wouldn't make sense for them to omit hardware from the conference.

So i'm predicting...

A completely revamped iOS, named iOS 5
Mac OS X Lion, the best OS yet.
A completely revamped MobileMe, a lot of free features but more space requires cheaper annual payments.
Additional cloud-like services nobody thought of.

Why does this sound like everything that might be shown? Or am i missing something?

i was hoping they would show off the iPhone 5 alongside iOS 5, and new iMacs for Mac OS X Lion, but i guess that won't be happening..


Am I missing something here why no iphone 5???

I agree mobile me will be completely revamped and will cost about US$50-75 per year
Music on the cloud
I still think there will be mention of a iphone 5 or proof one is coming (eg new os is HD or something....) Maybe instead/ as well as of a iphone 5 they should make a/call it the iphone HD (bigger screen, HD video etc)
 
It'll be $129 — the same as ALL of the past upgrades except for Snow Leopard which was Leopard but just a slimmed-down, rewriting of the OS. Apple felt that without a lot of core new features being added, they would give the public a break and just charge a nominal fee for Snow Leopard, rather than the typical $129.

Don't listen to anyone who says differently. It will be $129.

It'll be cheaper if bought via the Mac App Store, just like Aperture is cheaper than the off the shelf, boxed version when bought via the Mac App Store.
 
It'll be cheaper if bought via the Mac App Store, just like Aperture is cheaper than the off the shelf, boxed version when bought via the Mac App Store.

I absolutely adore these attempts at prophecy. Bottom line: We have no idea what the thing will cost, and all we can do right now is make educated guesses.
 
I would rather Apple do iPhone5 right then be pressured to release it at the typical release cycle.

++ 100% agree.

No need to rush things out to fullfil some artificial release date because people 'expect' it to be released. Get it it right and release it when its ready. No need to rush out half baked stuff - that will only fire back.
 
I absolutely adore these attempts at prophecy. Bottom line: We have no idea what the thing will cost, and all we can do right now is make educated guesses.


Hence the name of this site: Mac Rumors.

I'll give you that not all the rumors or speculations here are "educated," but if I were to make a price bracket sheet I'd put $29 losing out in the first round and $129 in the Final Four.
 
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I think it will be more like $79...

If it truly is a convergence, then the development should be amortized over both Mac and iOS development teams. Therefore, they could charge less per copy than they have traditionally, because the product is being applied to more systems.

But don't count on it. $129 will be the price. And when you compare it to the price of Windows, it looks like a bargain.
 
Maybe!

Maybe, if we all went on ebay, pitched in $50 each, we could all go! and sit in one seat! :rolleyes:
 
Either scalpers have swooped in or there are a lot more geeks that just want to attend the conference.

I was seriously disappointed when I attended last years one, the Apple engineers couldn't answer either of my questions, the presentations only reaffirmed what I already knew or pointed to documentation / demo code that every developer got for free anyway.

If you are a serious developer and want to attend the conference to actually learn its a serious disappointment. But I guess most conferences are just to network and geek it up which is why it sold out I guess.

What were your questions?

I was trying to add external display support to my iOS wireless collaborative drawing app, but I had run into a few problems. At WWDC 2010, I was able to work with 2 Apple engineers until we solved it. It was awesome; definitely worth it.
 
What's with the focus on 'sold out'? Simply limit your passes well below the projected numbers of participants, and there you go, sold out. It's just a math game and a marketing ploy.

There is no "focus" on sold out.

It is just mentioned to show the interest in Apple by developers.

If you never organized an event, here is (in a simplified way) how it goes:

You find a place an a location/facility based on what you estimate the attendance will be.

(Sometimes you can't even get a facility big enough and have to take what you can get)

That facility will hold a certain amount of people

You promote the event and sell tickets.

Eventually you will sell out or have tickets left over.

No magic in holding back tickets or use smaller facilities to make it look sold out.

There is also a point where too many people would not be able to learn efficiently what is coming.

Why not pack 80,000 developers into New York's Giants Stadium?
 
Hence the name of this site: Mac Rumors.

I'll give you that not all the rumors or speculations here are "educated," but if I were to make a price bracket sheet I'd put $29 losing out in the first round and $129 in the Final Four.

Maybe the poster is talking about the family-pack.
Depending on how many in your family it's close to $ 29:)
 
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