WWDC 2019: Siri Expected to Become More Useful With Third-Party Apps on iOS 13 and More

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    iOS 13 will enable developers to integrate Siri into their apps for several new use cases, including media playback, search, voice calling, event ticketing, message attachments, flights, train trips, and airport gate and seat information, according to 9to5Mac's Guilherme Rambo.


    In a report today, Rambo detailed several other developer-focused features that he expects Apple to announce at WWDC in June, including the ability for iOS apps ported to the Mac to use Mac-specific features such as the Touch Bar and keyboard shortcuts along with support for multiple windows.

    Rambo says enabling Mac support for an existing iOS app is "as easy as checking a checkbox" in Xcode, akin to adding iPad support to an iPhone app.

    Apple's augmented reality platform ARKit is said to gain "significant improvements" this year, including a brand new Swift-only framework for augmented reality and a companion app that lets developers create augmented reality experiences visually. ARKit is also said to gain the ability to detect human poses.

    Developers are also expected to gain access to a handful of new frameworks that allow for expanded use of the Taptic Engine, document scanning in third-party apps, and the ability to capture photos from external devices such as cameras and SD cards without having to go through Apple's Photos app.

    Last, on the Mac, apps will supposedly be able to offer file provider extensions, improving the integration of apps like Dropbox with Finder.

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  2. macbookguy macrumors regular


    Dec 28, 2006
    Columbus, Ohio
  3. SoN1NjA macrumors 68000


    Feb 3, 2016
    the pool
    Siri has becoming “more useful” for the past x years... or at least they say
  4. b11051973 macrumors 6502

    Apr 8, 2006
    I feel like we hear Siri is going to become better every year...and then it doesn't.
  5. iSpiro macrumors newbie


    Apr 22, 2019
    Hope so, would love for my Homepods to actually access SiriusXM or Spotify.
  6. benshive macrumors regular

    Feb 26, 2017
    United States
    Let's work on making Siri useful before we start trying to make her "more useful" ;)
  7. Benjamin Frost Suspended

    Benjamin Frost

    May 9, 2015
    London, England
    Is it possible to disable Siri entirely rather than for every single app? I would like a setting in iCloud that disables Siri with one button across all devices.
  8. nfl46 macrumors 604


    Oct 5, 2008
    Well, this is great to hear! Bring on iOS 13!
  9. kendalladmin macrumors newbie

    Jul 27, 2012
  10. iRutherford macrumors regular


    Oct 30, 2018
    Columbus, OH
    Shortcuts really helped Siri a lot, but all the heavy lifting in setting it up lies on the user.
  11. macduke macrumors G4


    Jun 27, 2007
    Central U.S.
    This is not good. iOS and macOS apps are two completely different beasts. Checking a box isn't going to make for a good user experience. This is basically what Apple did with apps like News and HomeKit and they are terrible.

    Everybody: We don't care about Touch Bar
    Apple: Let's double down on Touch Bar

    Apple is driving me a bit crazy lately.
  12. lisster macrumors member

    Oct 29, 2008
    Can they first work on her actually understanding me and me not having to yell at her in slow motion for her to even do simple things like open my garage door.. no siri..not garbage store
  13. Rogifan macrumors Core


    Nov 14, 2011
    And menu bar....you forgot that. Isn’t that what many of the complaints were about marzipan apps on the Mac, that they didn’t support menu bar?
  14. Solomani macrumors 68040


    Sep 25, 2012
    Alberto, Canado
    Opening up Siri to third party developers is both a boon and a curse. A boon because it will make Siri much more useful and possibly even "better/smarter".

    It's a curse because we already know that a handful of 3rd party devs will exploit Siri to compromise YOUR security and access YOUR personal privacy/information (much like Alexa/Facebook/Google/Amazon are already compromising the privacy/security of their userbase). In fact, several App Store devs have already done this with their apps (before Apple caught them) …. and it happened even before Siri was opened up.
  15. CrazyForCashews macrumors 6502

    Apr 1, 2018
    'Siri' and the word 'useful' are two words that should never be used in the same sentence, aside from this one.
  16. SoN1NjA macrumors 68000


    Feb 3, 2016
    the pool
    I don’t see how Shortcuts is related to Siri at all other than asking her to run the commands

    Apple says Shortcuts relies on Siri, but do they have to? Probably not
  17. The Game 161 macrumors P6

    The Game 161

    Dec 15, 2010
    but this doesnt make siri smarter...just makes it do things more within apps.
  18. pratikindia macrumors 6502


    Apr 7, 2014
    Siri should be able to the following basic tasks:
    1. Take a picture
    2. Siri should be an overlay on any application
    3. Deep third party integration
    4. Volume up/down
    5. lot more
  19. nburwell macrumors 601


    May 6, 2008
    I was thinking the same thing. Really hoping for Siri support for Spotify (although I won't hold my breath).
  20. Baymowe335 macrumors 601

    Oct 6, 2017
    Apple has actually has made a lot of improvements to Siri. It's easily as useful for everyday tasks as any smart assistant. Easily.

    What are you specifically struggling with that she doesn't do well? And be honest...don't say you asked her the meaning of life and weren't satisfied with the answer.
  21. theapplehead macrumors 6502


    Dec 17, 2018
    North Carolina
  22. jpk3 macrumors newbie

    Apr 22, 2019
    for the love of god how about we just start with better voice recognition?
  23. MallardDuck macrumors 6502

    Jul 21, 2014
    Integrating a brain-dead assistant into third-party apps will help....spread the frustration around.
  24. jpk3 macrumors newbie

    Apr 22, 2019
    how about accurately recognizing when a command i am giving pertains to a contact in my phone?

    how about asking what reminder i am trying to set before going in and changing a random one??

    i’m talking basic fundamentals that google assistant has been able to accurately do for years now.

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  25. MallardDuck macrumors 6502

    Jul 21, 2014
    Let's see - here's a few:

    - call a number in my contacts instead of searching the web. 'Call American Airlines Reservations' works about half the time, the other half I get a web search.

    - Find the closest store instead of one a thousand miles away

    - Play playlists reliably. 'Play College Hits' works about 2/3 the time, the rest I get 'can't find playlist College hits'

    And that's the theme - it's unreliable. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Create Task in OmniFocus works 1/2 the time, the rest errors out (even though it recognized OmniFocus). Sometimes it'll correctly transcribe words, and others it won't. 'Mute' never, ever, is transcribed properly. Training doesn't work.

    Both voice recognition and task execution are inconsistent at best.

    Edit: Oooo, the one about changing existing reminders is HUGE - same thing with timers and alarms. Damn thing changes times on those instead of creating new ones.

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