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Now third party apps will feel the pain of Siri.

https://www.reddit.com/r/sirifail

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how about accurately recognizing when a command i am giving pertains to a contact in my phone?

how about asking what reminder i am trying to set before going in and changing a random one??

i’m talking basic fundamentals that google assistant has been able to accurately do for years now.
What did you hope to gain from asking her to set a reminder 3 weeks from now? You would have immediately had to tell her what reminder. Honestly, bad command.

Google Assistant is spyware so any incremental improvement comes at the expense of your privacy.

Reminders on Siri are a bad example of something she does poorly. I just literally never have a problem. You have to be somewhat mindful in how you ask questions or give commands to any voice assistant, but it's easier than chewing gum.
 
They killed the single useful thing Siri did for me, which was being able to say "Play top songs by _____" and have them play the TOP SONGS, and not just a shuffle of 50 "popular" songs.

You have a top song designation in Apple Music - why am I unable to use Siri to play that anymore?
 
Let's see - here's a few:

- call a number in my contacts instead of searching the web. 'Call American Airlines Reservations' works about half the time, the other half I get a web search.

- Find the closest store instead of one a thousand miles away

- Play playlists reliably. 'Play College Hits' works about 2/3 the time, the rest I get 'can't find playlist College hits'

And that's the theme - it's unreliable. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Create Task in OmniFocus works 1/2 the time, the rest errors out (even though it recognized OmniFocus). Sometimes it'll correctly transcribe words, and others it won't. 'Mute' never, ever, is transcribed properly. Training doesn't work.

Both voice recognition and task execution are inconsistent at best.

Edit: Oooo, the one about changing existing reminders is HUGE - same thing with timers and alarms. Damn thing changes times on those instead of creating new ones.
Again, it's anecdotal and doesn't really identify a specific issue. What i was looking for is something lime, "Siri can't do xyz" and it's a verifiable fact. I don't know why you're having so much trouble. There has been extensive testing done to compare them and Siri actually excels at "command" tasks.

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Based on this Chart, Siri is #2 in Local, #2 in Commerce, #2 in Navigation, #4 in Information, and #1 in command.

The only one Google has a large lead is Commerce, where everyone except Google struggled. Siri is not great with information, but not awful.

The article also notes Siri made the largest improvements in 2018, meaning the "Siri sucks" position by the haters needs to be re-evaluated.
 
I have no issue with siri. Everything I ask, she does without issue. I know it's fun to bash siri but it's grown and improved over the years and is great now. As is apple maps which I find to be more accurate than waze and on par with google maps and we travel a lot towing a trailer around the country.
 
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Shortcuts really helped Siri a lot, but all the heavy lifting in setting it up lies on the user.
So true. In iOS 12 I can use Siri to tell Spotify what to play or where Google Maps should Navigate. But the experience lacks polish, is buggy and many actions require the screen to be unlocked.
 
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I don’t see how Shortcuts is related to Siri at all other than asking her to run the commands

Apple says Shortcuts relies on Siri, but do they have to? Probably not

Well obviously it's related because now you can make Siri do a million things you couldn't before.
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I have no issue with siri. Everything I ask, she does without issue. I know it's fun to bash siri but it's grown and improved over the years and is great now. As is apple maps which I find to be more accurate than waze and on par with google maps and we travel a lot towing a trailer around the country.

Is correct, Siri is far far better than Alexa which is an utter joke.
 
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Again, it's anecdotal and doesn't really identify a specific issue. What i was looking for is something lime, "Siri can't do xyz" and it's a verifiable fact. I don't know why you're having so much trouble. There has been extensive testing done to compare them and Siri actually excels at "command" tasks.

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Based on this Chart, Siri is #2 in Local, #2 in Commerce, #2 in Navigation, #4 in Information, and #1 in command.

The only one Google has a large lead is Commerce, where everyone except Google struggled. Siri is not great with information, but not awful.

The article also notes Siri made the largest improvements in 2018, meaning the "Siri sucks" position by the haters needs to be re-evaluated.

Try real life instead of paper and graphs! There’s a world to experience outside where Siri just sucks
 
Again, it's anecdotal and doesn't really identify a specific issue. What i was looking for is something lime, "Siri can't do xyz" and it's a verifiable fact. I don't know why you're having so much trouble. There has been extensive testing done to compare them and Siri actually excels at "command" tasks.

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Based on this Chart, Siri is #2 in Local, #2 in Commerce, #2 in Navigation, #4 in Information, and #1 in command.

The only one Google has a large lead is Commerce, where everyone except Google struggled. Siri is not great with information, but not awful.

The article also notes Siri made the largest improvements in 2018, meaning the "Siri sucks" position by the haters needs to be re-evaluated.

Great post - and I agree with all the outcomes - when it comes to commands and home automation, Siri absolutely kills Alexa or Google. Google does lead the way in terms of information stuff, but again occasionally Homepod will give you the same answer in actually a better format (of all 3, Siri answers Premier League Football scores in the best manner)

I think anyone saying "Siri is rubbish" from the start of this thread used it once back in 2009 and has just stuck with the same joke since then.
 
Never mind Siri improvements, but does it seem like most other purported "new features" are iPad focussed. Not hearing much about what iOS 13 will bring to the iPhone, you know, other than dark mode and "files app improvements".
 
This is not good. iOS and macOS apps are two completely different beasts. Checking a box isn't going to make for a good user experience. This is basically what Apple did with apps like News and HomeKit and they are terrible.


Everybody: We don't care about Touch Bar
Apple: Let's double down on Touch Bar

Apple is driving me a bit crazy lately.

Checking a box IS good. You can create separate storyboards for the mac interface. It will be fine.
 
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Never mind Siri improvements, but does it seem like most other purported "new features" are iPad focussed. Not hearing much about what iOS 13 will bring to the iPhone, you know, other than dark mode and "files app improvements".
Well it's all rumor. Just because you haven't heard other rumors, as unreliable as they can be, doesn't mean they aren't adding tons of stuff.
 
She better be able to better understand what you’re saying as she’s still poor at just figuring out which of the still limited things one asks her to do.
 
Everybody: We don't care about Touch Bar
Apple: Let's double down on Touch Bar

Apple is driving me a bit crazy lately.

They won’t abandon it because they probably have plans for it, don’t forget these things are years in the making. Besides it’s a useful tool when editing.
 
So I'm not heavily invested in Apple's ecosystem (although I buy their products), and that includes not being invested in app purchases and voice assistants activated devices.

Do you guys actually find Siri useful? When I did attempt to get into using voice assistants a few years ago Siri's inaccuracy at detecting what I said, and more specifically inability to do anything about that aside from searching the web. I was using google assistant several years back and remember finding it extremely useful (not only perfect at detecting), but the answer it provided (even if information divulged from the internet) was very much on point, despite the large array of random questions I would ask it, as I'm very much an information collecting type of individual and look up several things per day.

TLDR, Siri dissuaded me from using voice assistance, Google assistant encouraged me, purely from the experience. I understand all ecosystem's can easily do things like set up alarms, calendar events, home automation, etc -- but does anyone else share my sentiment when it comes to accessing new information/asking questions?
 
Checking a box IS good. You can create separate storyboards for the mac interface. It will be fine.
I hope you're right because Apple's implementation is questionable at best.
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They won’t abandon it because they probably have plans for it, don’t forget these things are years in the making. Besides it’s a useful tool when editing.
Yeah their plans likely involve removing the keyboard entirely and replacing it with a touch sensitive surface. Just ask iPad users how happy we are with the current state of productivity on that platform.
 
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iPhone 6, newest iOS, shortcut: There was a problem with the app...

Complete reset did not do anything. The shortcut was sent to iPhone 6s - works over Siri, iPhone X - works over Siri, iPhone 8 - works over Siri, iPhone Xs + Max - works over Siri.

- Hey Siri start a 6 minute timer.
--> There was a problem (every 10th time I get this). How is there a problem starting a timer? Sometimes it still runs though.

- Hey Siri, I lost my keys.
--> Here is what I found on the web for you.
 
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