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I knew it! iPhone 5 unibody design is water proof!!!

Call me when it's shatter/drop proof. I've never dropped my phone in water, or got it damaged by water in anyway. I do however drop my phone from time to time, and seeing how that glass shatters on the iPhone makes me want to cry.

iOS 6 is what I want to see. I do plan on leaving Android, but only if both the hardware and the software catch up to the rest of the market.
 
All of the iOS version icons share the same background as the default homescreen background that ships with that iOS version. 5 had the teal gradient and water droplets. The default background for 6 will be these water ripples. End of story.
 
I'm not sure if I'll like a silver themed iOS on my iPhone. On iPad 3, it somehow manages to pull off, but on a smaller screen, I like seeing the friendlier blue.

And Maps better not be the only update in iOS6. God that'd be laughable. I might switch to Android for a year or two if that's the case. Getting so bored of the same old static app squares.
 
I'd love to see some pictures from Moscone Center installation today, Sunday 10th ! :D Anybody passing by ???
 
And Maps better not be the only update in iOS6. God that'd be laughable. I might switch to Android for a year or two if that's the case. Getting so bored of the same old static app squares.

I thought people used these smartphones for the software. Web browser, apps, games. I had no idea people sit around staring at their home screens all day instead of actually launching an app.

Saying the home screen is "getting boring" is like saying the desktop is getting boring. It's there for a reason, and because it's effective. The desktop has remained largely the same since Macintosh for a good reason, because it was a brilliant idea then and it still works for file system management. Same for the home screen. It was a brilliant idea in 07 and still is. It's effective, and very simple to understand.

I can understand wanting widgets of some kind, but Apple doesn't need to throw away the home screen. There are plenty of other areas in the OS for them to innovate. They don't need to clutter the home screen with widgets. They will undoubtedly introduce an equivalent to dashboard if they ever do bring widgets, where the widgets will be displayed only when you call for them, so they don't unnecessarily use CPU every time you sit on the home screen. But rather only when you wish to view them, and then disappear.
 
Iceberg

It kind of reminds me of an iceberg--perhaps it means whatever cosmetic differences there are, they are only the tip of the iceberg, that there's been a lot more under the hood renovation.

Although I hope that doesn't mean it'll look just like 5 but "run much smoother because of all the behind the scenes changes".
 
I guess, but really I can't see the need for a 4" screen other than to help a few old people that have trouble reading. Many people want larger screens only because other companies have it.

Who knows, who cares? I'm not all that fussed if the new iPhone is bigger or not, but would welcome it if it is. The retina display on the 4/4s is kinda wasted on such a small screen, but with a 4" screen, would that take the PPI to under what they class as 'retina' ?

They aren't announcing the new phone tomorrow anyway, so lets wait it out a few months :D

:apple:
 
This fall? The iPhone is coming sooner then fall son. July/August at the latest. Last years delay was a fluke.

:)

Sooner 'than' fall. You really think that apple would release the new iPhone only a month after releasing the new iOS? They always release several betas, work out bugs, and give developers time to update current apps or create new ones. If the new iPhone will have a larger screen they may announce the new phone at the WWDC giving developers the time to change their apps before fall. I highly doubt a July launch.
 
Come next year I think they will conjoin OS X and iOS to create a single software platform. They will obviously use different formats on the Macs/Mobile Devices...what do you guys think?

Why would they do that? You don't want a phone OS on your huge desktop Mac any more than you want a full blown desktop OS on your phone.

It's already strange that all the code for iPad stuff (tabbed Safari browsing, 6 icons in the dock, landscape home screen, photobooth, etc) is included, but not executed, on the iPhone/iPod touch, using up memory.

Imagine tying to cram the whole of Mac OS X onto the iPhone just to disable all the Mac features?
 
Only post out of this whole thread that addresses the main point. If the new iPhone had a screen size change, how can they NOT addresses it when they talk about ios6?

And how can beta testers test an OS that doesn't fit the dimensions of the existing phone's screen?

The same way when they announced OS X Lion they didn't have to say "FYI We're going to announce an 11" MacBook Air."

Can't iOS just adjust to a new screen size, along with apps, the same as Mac apps can? Or Android apps do on different phone screen sizes?
 
I thought people used these smartphones for the software. Web browser, apps, games. I had no idea people sit around staring at their home screens all day instead of actually launching an app.

Saying the home screen is "getting boring" is like saying the desktop is getting boring. It's there for a reason, and because it's effective. The desktop has remained largely the same since Macintosh for a good reason, because it was a brilliant idea then and it still works for file system management. Same for the home screen. It was a brilliant idea in 07 and still is. It's effective, and very simple to understand.

I can understand wanting widgets of some kind, but Apple doesn't need to throw away the home screen. There are plenty of other areas in the OS for them to innovate. They don't need to clutter the home screen with widgets. They will undoubtedly introduce an equivalent to dashboard if they ever do bring widgets, where the widgets will be displayed only when you call for them, so they don't unnecessarily use CPU every time you sit on the home screen. But rather only when you wish to view them, and then disappear.

I use my iPhone a lot throughout the day, and I don't have time to stare at the home screen as you impudently remarked. But for me, everything I use on my iPhone is getting boring. The same old safari since iPhone 1. Same old app squares. Same old mechanism for getting from and to home screen.

Luckily for me, my business relies on the Internet, not on an app or iPhone specifically. So for me, I don't mind changing To android so I can see something new.

It's like with leased cars: eventually, if given a different option, you are likely to seek a new alternative rather than renewing the lease for the same car. Because many want something different after some time. It's just that some humans are built with more curiosity while some are built for status quo.
 
I can understand wanting widgets of some kind, but Apple doesn't need to throw away the home screen. There are plenty of other areas in the OS for them to innovate. They don't need to clutter the home screen with widgets. They will undoubtedly introduce an equivalent to dashboard if they ever do bring widgets, where the widgets will be displayed only when you call for them, so they don't unnecessarily use CPU every time you sit on the home screen. But rather only when you wish to view them, and then disappear.

Honestly, what I'd like to see is widgets that you can place on your notification screen (like they do with the weather and stocks). And being able to pull the notification screen down in the lock screen.

That way you don't have to slide all the way to one page or quit out of an app even for the widgets or anything (access to them from where ever you are). And I'd like easy access to them and my notification list without having to unlock my phone first.
 
I use my iPhone a lot throughout the day, and I don't have time to stare at the home screen as you impudently remarked. But for me, everything I use on my iPhone is getting boring. The same old safari since iPhone 1. Same old app squares. Same old mechanism for getting from and to home screen.

Luckily for me, my business relies on the Internet, not on an app or iPhone specifically. So for me, I don't mind changing To android so I can see something new.

It's like with leased cars: eventually, if given a different option, you are likely to seek a new alternative rather than renewing the lease for the same car. Because many want something different after some time. It's just that some humans are built with more curiosity while some are built for status quo.


Personally I'd like the UI to stay the same where it works and makes it efficient and only change when there is something better.

I'd far prefer that then they ruin good UI just for the sake of change so some people don't get bored. After all, I'd like my phone to be quick and efficient to use and not frustrate me and the best way to do that is to improve where it needs to improve but keep the stuff the same that works. Not change things just to make them look different.

Change for change's sake works when you are talking aesthetics that don't have practicality reasons but just affect appearance (like how a car looks on the outside, even then somethings affect like a lot of cars these days have huge blind spots cause they don't put that into consideration when making design), but UI on a phone definitely has practicality reasons (usability).
 
Please know before you read this, I'm not trying to bust your balls, just trying to inform you, please try to read this with a hint of sarcasm.

People that like to make things for your entertainment... ie me
Apps, Videos, music, VIDEO GAMES! This web site. Are created on Mac Pros or other powerful computers.

I don't agree with the statement "everything you need to do can be done on an iPad, anything else is pointless" That is just a statement that people use to make themselves feel better about the product in which they bought. :p

I agree 100% and am glad you realized I was also being ironic/sarcastic/playful :)
 
I'll bet that Apple will drop support for the 3GS with IOS 6. It'll probably run only on iPhone 4 and above, IPad and above. and iPod Touch 4th generation.
 
I don't see iPad 2, iPhone 4, or iPhone 3GS splashed anywhere on the main page, so I'm not sure why you think they'd be splashing model years on the main page. Even the product pages show the current model much larger than the old models. The current model would always just be "the new _____". It's not an issue.



Don't be moronic, they'd just say "it's last years iPad", or "the previous generation", or "the $400 one". People say stuff like that now.

Erm that is because the new iPad on the main page. When the iPhone 4S was the latest and greatest there was definitely iPhone 4S splashed over the main page. In fact if you go to www.apple.com/iphone/ you will see it there, so I guess on the 'iPhone' main page at this point in time.

Moronic? Yeah you're awesome, everyone is just like you and know every little thing that Apple change from model to model, so they don't need suffixes. I mean why do they have product names at all? Why not just call everything the new Apple? The problem isn't the naming convention of successive products, that would be fine. The problem is the naming convention of concurrent products, products that are quite different, yet look the same. Now that is ridiculous and you sir are being moronic for blindly following it, believing that everyone in the world is as sad an Apple fanatic as you are.
 
hmm water ripples, now where have i seen those lately.......... does the new iphone come in pebble blue?

I thought exactly the same thing! Apple is sticking it to Samsung by copying them now! :p

More seriously, I do wonder what this means. Perhaps we're getting iOS Aqua interface in iOS 6! yeay!! :D
 
Erm that is because the new iPad on the main page. When the iPhone 4S was the latest and greatest there was definitely iPhone 4S splashed over the main page. In fact if you go to www.apple.com/iphone/ you will see it there, so I guess on the 'iPhone' main page at this point in time.

Of course the newest model will be on the main page. I said the old model isn't on the main page and doesn't take prominence on any page. The "new iPhone" on the main page will always be the newest model. Including a model year, generation number or previous generation, wouldn't be a concern for when old models are mentioned.

Moronic? Yeah you're awesome, everyone is just like you and know every little thing that Apple change from model to model, so they don't need suffixes. I mean why do they have product names at all? Why not just call everything the new Apple? The problem isn't the naming convention of successive products, that would be fine. The problem is the naming convention of concurrent products, products that are quite different, yet look the same. Now that is ridiculous and you sir are being moronic for blindly following it, believing that everyone in the world is as sad an Apple fanatic as you are.

Sorry there wasn't a polite way to put it. No one except perhaps people on these forums would even think of saying things like:

"Yeah I just bought a new iPad", "oh is that the new one with the blah blah?", "oh no, this is the old iPad that was the new iPad, but now it is just the iPad","so you haven't got the iPad (2013)?", "well it is a new one, it just isn't the new one", "so which one is it then?", "it's a new one, just not the THE new one", "oh right, hey have you heard the rumors about that new one?".

Again, they would say things like the "new one", the "old one", "last years model", "the $400 one", etc. None of that takes any Apple product knowledge. Have you talked to non Apple geeks about the iPhone? Many don't know that the latest one is called the 4S. In fact, when I was considering getting the iPhone 4S (but decided against it as I was still under contract), the question I asked retailers was "Do you have the new iPhone in stock?".

You accuse me of blindly following Apple, but I'd say you're blindly criticizing Apple. Most products don't have their name change every year, and it's easy for common folk to differentiate between different generations of a product through the use of year, or other descriptors. It's easier than remembering what the last and last years models were called.
 
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