WWDC Banner Confirms iOS 6 Announcement

[paradox00]

That's fine.

At the moment if I have 3 video players, I have to have 3 copies of the same film on the iPad, that is nothing short of moronic for an OS to behave

I never said iOS performs perfectly, I just said a file system isn't advanced. There are are areas that a file system could improve iOS, but there are other ways to improve it as well.

Although I do have to question why you have a) 3 video players and b) need to keep the same movie on all 3 video players...

 

[lilo777]

Hello, file system on an iOS device?

Depending on the idevice used and its amount of memory, you want to use up that memory to store stuff that you can access many other ways?

LogMeIn lets' you connect to and control your main computer from any place with internet access
Dropbox gives you access to all the files deemed important if you put the app onto your idevice
iCloud or other like services will store whatever you like
Google documents or the like can save and file

and on and on........

Why would anybody want to clutter up an iphone or ipad with files?

If you need that, take along a MacAir or MacBook etc.
Connect to the internet with hotspot feature if that's needed.

Dude, relax. Your iPhone storage is full of files, you just do not have direct access to them. As a matter of fact, without explicit file system, you have to duplicate some files (as someone above mentioned - when you have three viewers you have to create a copy of the movie or whatever for each of them to be able to use them. Not to mention the fact that without file system implementation of support for memory cards is impossible. Notice that Android phones can do everything you just mentioned (albeit much more elegantly - as is the case with Dropbox - because of the existence of file system) and then a lot more because they do have a file system.

 

[tigress666]

but would they risk losing all those iphone 4 early adopters that are eligible for a upgrade in july to its competition?

Uh, you do realize last year with the 4S they had a bunch of iphone 3GS early adapters that, yes, apparently they did decide to risk losing some of them due to waiting longer to release the phone.

(Not that I don't want them to release the new phone sooner as I got the 4 the day it came out so my upgrade is available at this point).

 

[AnthonySmith]

Live animated wallpapers perhaps? Based on the ripple effect of the iOS6 icon.

 

[MacReloaded]

Question, I'm completely ignorant here, wasn't the 3G released before they had the new iOS?

I remember that they released iOS 2 some time after I got my 3G (and I didn't get my 3G right when it came out either, apparently though about a month after it came out, maybe a little sooner)?

I remember it cause it actually made the iphone's browser be stable (the damned thing crashed so much on safari before that it was a testament how much I was really loving my phone that I didn't want to throw it against the wall, it was very reliable to crash constantly. I'm pretty sure if 2 hadn't come out as soon as it did the newness of the phone would eventually wear off and it would start really pissing me off. 2 happily fixed that problem).

iOS 2 was released along with the iPhone 3G.

 

[tigress666]

iOS 2 was released along with the iPhone 3G.

Darn, it must have been an update to 2. Either way the version that came with my phone sucked and I'd be shocked if the iphone had a good reputation for stability if they hadn't fixed it (seriously, safari would crash at least two times every time I used it).

Still, I was kinda hoping I was remembering right cause at least it would show that Apple has been willing to release iOS after the phone (mainly cause while I do believe the phone will be out in fall sometime I would totally love a June/July release).

 

[sulpfiction]

This fall? The iPhone is coming sooner then fall son. July/August at the latest. Last years delay was a fluke.

^^Epic Fail!

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I call hoax. They have 2 logos in the pipeline, and want to see what we think of each.

Yeah, Tim Cook actually posted a poll right here on MR to see what iOS logo we like better. :rollseyes:

 

[TimoT]

^^Epic Fail!

Why does it fail? It's quite possible considering a lot of leaks we have had. Might not be true, but it's not an epic fail either, IMO.

 

[Gemütlichkeit]

I really don't think any of us needed confirmation that iOS 6 would be discussed.

44 up votes. just shows you this forum is full of snarky basement dwellers

 

[sulpfiction]

This is a bit shocking. You guys think Apple will be making a new phone? They built a new one last year. Another one would be a bit excessive.

I hope the rumors are true that Apple will release a bunch of new utilities that help users jailbreak their iPhones and iPads.

Huh?

 

[sk8er1]

Lol what a disappointment it would be if they didn't announce this. Cant wait for June 11

 

[sulpfiction]

Why does it fail? It's quite possible considering a lot of leaks we have had. Might not be true, but it's not an epic fail either, IMO.

The fail is the fact that if we don't see an iPhone Monday (the odds of which are slim to none) we won't see it until sept, oct. no way apple is going to hold another event next month for iPhone. If its coming early, it's coming Monday.

 

[tonytien]

I find the iOS 6 icon very attractive.

 

[TimoT]

The fail is the fact that if we don't see an iPhone Monday (the odds of which are slim to none) we won't see it until sept, oct. no way apple is going to hold another event next month for iPhone. If its coming early, it's coming Monday.

Early/Mid August would still be possible, I guess? I know there is more chance of a Sep/Oct release but on the other hand, the number and scale of leaks we have had can be also considered too high for a Sep/Oct release IMO.

 

[Saladinos]

Good. It's clear that users have been asking for a richer UI.

App developers have to do quite a lot of customising these days, because raw iOS standard controls don't have the polish that AppStore users expect. Its usable because Cocoa touch lets you still make amazing apps, but you have to customise basically everything.

The appearance API ion iOS 5 helped, but a more modern standard visual design would be great, too. Greater flexibility in the system controls would also be much appreciated (especially UINavigationBar, UIToolBar, MKAnnotationView), as would some sort of layout container views so that views don't have to be statically placed.

Besides that, I also expect to see OpenCL come to iOS,

 

[heyitsmecarlos]

the 6 on that logo looks like it was made with liquid metal!

also, am i the only one who can see right through that street pole?

I hate to burst your bubble but they have looked like that since steve jobs changed the name from iphone os 4 to ios 4. And besides when you think about it for a minute, you ask yourself "what the ****** does a software demo have to do with hardware design." just trying to help.

 

[DeathChill]

I find the iOS 6 icon very attractive.

But it's also the kind of icon you can take home to your mother.

 

[whodareswins]

I hope iOS6 gets a major overhaul. I'm sick up looking at a bunch of app icons. I'm ready to switch to a Windows phone.

Couldn't agree more. There needs to be an extra screen with widgets and things.

 

[baxterbrittle]

New naming convention

I don't think the new iPhone will be called the New iPhone. I think the change in iPad naming scheme has more to do with it being considered a computer, like an iMac or MacBook, while advertised as the new iMac etc they are still just called an iMac. The confusion with that naming scheme when it comes to iPhone and iPad is that they usually sell the old product at a cheaper price point next to the new product, which they don't do with their computers lines. This means that you will have an iPhone 4S sitting alongside the new iPhone, which I guess is okay. But then you have the issue when the new new iPhone comes out, what do you call the old new iPhone? Or for that matter the new new iPhone? I suppose you could call the old one the iPhone and the new one the new iPhone, but that seems pretty silly. They need a naming convention to differentiate their products that sit side by side, however it doesn't need a carryover name like they have used in the past, just a name to differentiate the low and high end models. So for example, you call them the iPhone and iPhone +, then when the + gets replaced it loses the + moniker and the new one gets the + and so on. At the same time they need to identify that the old model is now the base model, so it should be 'simplified' somehow, for example jamming iPhone 4 innards into a 3GS shell. A bit like the old MacBooks and MacBook Pro's, the high end gets a higher end casing, because that is the premium version.

So they need 2 models at each launch, a high end and a low end, the low end with carry over hardware, but in a low end case and then a high end with new hardware in a high end casing. With each iteration the low and high end have the same names like iPhone and iPhone +. This would eliminate naming confusion and adopt a similar convention to their other naming patterns.

At the moment their naming is all over the place and very un-Apple like.

 

[paradox00]

I don't think the new iPhone will be called the New iPhone. I think the change in iPad naming scheme has more to do with it being considered a computer, like an iMac or MacBook, while advertised as the new iMac etc they are still just called an iMac. The confusion with that naming scheme when it comes to iPhone and iPad is that they usually sell the old product at a cheaper price point next to the new product, which they don't do with their computers lines. This means that you will have an iPhone 4S sitting alongside the new iPhone, which I guess is okay. But then you have the issue when the new new iPhone comes out, what do you call the old new iPhone? Or for that matter the new new iPhone? I suppose you could call the old one the iPhone and the new one the new iPhone, but that seems pretty silly. They need a naming convention to differentiate their products that sit side by side, however it doesn't need a carryover name like they have used in the past, just a name to differentiate the low and high end models. So for example, you call them the iPhone and iPhone +, then when the + gets replaced it loses the + moniker and the new one gets the + and so on. At the same time they need to identify that the old model is now the base model, so it should be 'simplified' somehow, for example jamming iPhone 4 innards into a 3GS shell. A bit like the old MacBooks and MacBook Pro's, the high end gets a higher end casing, because that is the premium version.

So they need 2 models at each launch, a high end and a low end, the low end with carry over hardware, but in a low end case and then a high end with new hardware in a high end casing. With each iteration the low and high end have the same names like iPhone and iPhone +. This would eliminate naming confusion and adopt a similar convention to their other naming patterns.

At the moment their naming is all over the place and very un-Apple like.

They'll call them "the new iPhone" and "iPhone (2012)" or "iPhone (6th Generation)". They've already solved this 'problem' with their refurbished macs and iPods.

 

[cyruslemont]

Ooft baby, it's coming! Can't wait to hear news about the new iPhone later this year too.

iFile - Integration into all apps, your files can now be saved either within an app or into iFile for exporting onto computer in a faster, more fluid way. It evens allows app files to communicate between each other e.g. save a beat you make in a rhythm app into iFile, you can open it up in Garage band as a track and work with it from there. On top of that, it will feature it's own state of the art file viewer, for reading PDFs, watching movies, listening to audio files. Other features are an extractor for .zip .rar files etc.

That's just my idea of what a file app would be like, it would also decrease the barrier between full web browsers on computers and mobile web browsers by allowing the downloading of files onto phones.

Really that's not such a bad idea and I don't know how it would be going backwards in anyway, I've wanted that feature since the first iPhone. Now I know there's the USB Disk app, but an Apple version would most likely allow a larger amount of flexibility within the iOS and would have greater polish.

 

[marksman]

Ok so what are the expectations for iOS 6 besides new map app and Facebook integration?

MySpace integration and Bluetooth Zune sync.

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Ooft baby, it's coming! Can't wait to hear news about the new iPhone later this year too.

iFile - Integration into all apps, your files can now be saved either within an app or into iFile for exporting onto computer in a faster, more fluid way. It evens allows app files to communicate between each other e.g. save a beat you make in a rhythm app into iFile, you can open it up in Garage band as a track and work with it from there. On top of that, it will feature it's own state of the art file viewer, for reading PDFs, watching movies, listening to audio files. Other features are an extractor for .zip .rar files etc.

That's just my idea of what a file app would be like, it would also decrease the barrier between full web browsers on computers and mobile web browsers by allowing the downloading of files onto phones.

Really that's not such a bad idea and I don't know how it would be going backwards in anyway, I've wanted that feature since the first iPhone. Now I know there's the USB Disk app, but an Apple version would most likely allow a larger amount of flexibility within the iOS and would have greater polish.

Ifile directly opposes and contradicts everything apple has been trying to do with all their products in the last five years plus. There is a better chance that scientists discover smoking crack five times a day helps you live longer than apple doing something like you suggest.

 

[MythicFrost]

I'm going to take a guess and say there's 6 major new features.

 

[ScooterLibby]

Why does it fail? It's quite possible considering a lot of leaks we have had. Might not be true, but it's not an epic fail either, IMO.

If you read about the 22nm fab process you'd know that the next generation of LTE chips won't ready for mass distribution until Fall. Apple will not use the current gen LTE because it is too big and power hungry for their needs. Summer release is not happening.

 

[zzLZHzz]

then is there still enough time for mountain lion?