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WWDC: Game On

bluefire75 said:
I for one am happy to see quality games coming back to the Mac. Can't tell you how tired I get of going over to Apple store and finding the same game titles every single visit. So it'll be nice to see the game shelf including current titles. However, it doesn't mean I'll be ditching my XBox 360 nor the Wii anytime soon.
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You shouldn't. Computer and console gaming are not the same animal.
 
Finally! New games! And they're not ports of last year's games too!

I'm not sure what the reasons are but, why is it that when a new videocard comes out, it doesn't include OSX drivers as well? I mean like, why is it that we always have to wait for a "mac" version? Don't macs use pci-e slots too?

We mac gamers get no love I tells ya.
 
Though I'm definitely not getting rid of my PS2 anytime soon & will probably buy a PS3 or Xbox 360, I feel more optimistic about this today than when I posted yesterday.

IMO, EA don't make the best games & I'd much prefer Activision et al on board, but EA's announcement is bound to influence other game developers to at least review their stance on releasing games for Macs. So no complaints from me.
 
gregorsamsa said:
Though I'm definitely not getting rid of my PS2 anytime soon & will probably buy a PS3 or Xbox 360, I feel more optimistic about this today than when I posted yesterday.

IMO, EA don't make the best games & I'd much prefer Activision et al on board, but EA's announcement is bound to influence other game developers to at least review their stance on releasing games for Macs. So no complaints from me.
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Indeed. The big plus point is that EA's... well, EA. They're the 800lb gorilla in gaming, pretty much, and traditionally their sports titles are mega-sellers.

So, there's an argument that they've got the most chance of success, and that success is what will encourage others to throw their hat into the ring.

The other aspect is with EA being so high profile, those that aren't hardcore gamers but like the odd game might in the past have completely discounted the Mac as a viable option purely because the only games seemed to be ports of 2yr old PC games... with a simultaneous launch of FIFA, Madden, etc., that perception might just be shifted enough to encourage others.

It's all about picking up momentum...
 
Wow. This can only be interpreted as good news, IMO. I'm currently a PC user planning on switching late fall early winter. The only cobweb in the back of my mind about switching is gaming. I love to play games - particularly flight sims and golf sim(s). I'm thrilled!!:cool:

Rich :D
 
Bregalad said:
Like the very first reply to this thread said: where the heck is the hardware for running these games? Apple has nothing for gaming.

Mini: obsolete notebook parts in a box
iMac: notebook parts with a desktop HD and mediocre, non-upgradeable video
MacBook: Intel graphics (boo hiss)
MacBook Pro: a $2000 notebook for games? in which parallel universe?
Mac Pro: way too expensive thanks to server components plus lame video card choices because no company in its right mind makes products that can only sell to a 5% sliver of a 3% piece of pie.

While more than half of all desktop PCs sold in retail stores cost less than US$500, gamers spend more than twice as much. That puts them firmly in Apple territory. Give them a mini tower based on a standard motherboard, with a desktop CPU and decent video card (plus a truly high end video card option) and this highly influential group of PC users might just consider a Mac.

To attract serious PC users Apple would have to make one big change to their store. PC users expect two things Apple has historically never done: offer incrementally upgraded parts and drop prices on older parts. When the GTX card comes out, the price of the GT card should drop and both should be available. In the current Apple universe they stick with only the GT card and never drop the price. Eventually, 6 to 9 months down the road, a replacement comes out. PC users, gamers especially, won't stand for that kind of treatment.
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So very, very true. With Intel, and now EA in the fold, I would hope Apple start to realise this or the EA venture is a lost cause if it's meant to attract any sort of decent PC gaming market. I'd so love to have a Mac as a gaming machine and finally throw out my PC - but as it stands right now, the Macs model just doesn't appeal for gaming, and I'll still have to keep my PC in the corner that I can upgrade when I wish, and which is adaptable to price changes and new releases on the spot. For the time being anyway.

Rest of the time, my Mac just piss all over my PC in anything else besides gaming :p
 
Replacing a video card

archer75 said:
Lot of good it does developing games for the mac when I can't replace the frickin video card without throwing the whole damn computer away.
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I don't know where you've been, we've been able to ad video cards to all the pro machines since the SE-30. Consumer machines are less expensive because they do not afford you the ability to make upgrades other than memory or hard drive so if you bought a consumer level Mac you got what you got. How many PC laptops can you upgrade the video cards.
 
Kenn Marks said:
I don't know where you've been, we've been able to ad video cards to all the pro machines since the SE-30. Consumer machines are less expensive because they do not afford you the ability to make upgrades other than memory or hard drive so if you bought a consumer level Mac you got what you got. How many PC laptops can you upgrade the video cards.
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Any PC laptop that truly follows the MXM format.

I like my Macbook and was thinking about replacing my current server with a Mac Pro, but I only paid 700 dollars for my server (self built and I got Win2k3 for free [legally]). I can't get a Mac that cheap that will allow me to change the hardware so freely. You say you shouldn't get the consumer line, I say that is crap. So now consumers don't play games? Consumers have to spend at least 2 grand to get a box worthy of playing the latest and greatest games (and then have to deal with fb-dimms and xeon procs)?

If Apple is even remotely serious about games they need a box that has top of the line gaming equipment in it. I would figure if enough ppl buy it, Mac game developers will take note and plan accordingly.
 
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