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WWDC is going to disappoint everyone
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People will always be mad after an Apple event. Even if those that expect a price drop, 32GB, GPS, video-conferencing camera, 10mp camera (3x optical zoom, of course) camera on the back, thinner form, and high res screen on the iPhone got all of this, someone would still be mad because it doesn't double as a missile launcher. You can't make everyone happy, and right now it's almost impossible as the expectations are way too high. I've even read about someone wanting solar charging for the new iPhone...
For WWDC this year, I see the following:
1. Demo of iPhone/iPod 2.0, release ~2 weeks later (iTunes update, maybe to v8.0)
2. Additional mobile features to .mac, but it will retain its current branding
3. First announcement of 10.6
4. 3G iPhone as "one more thing."
For WWDC this year, I see the following:
1. Demo of iPhone/iPod 2.0, release ~2 weeks later (iTunes update, maybe to v8.0)
2. Additional mobile features to .mac, but it will retain its current branding
3. First announcement of 10.6
4. 3G iPhone as "one more thing."
Well I almost blew my load when Microsoft introduced Silverlight. Heh.
I agree. Apple is one of the few companies at the moment introducing products that people actually get excited about. Even Apple has its off days, so you can't go into WWDC with very high expectations, there are only so many products they can release, they haven't got the resources for loads of products.
Based on the WWDC outline and agenda that was sent out, there is really nothing to be excited about unless you are a developer.
Because unless you want to play high end computer games on it, or do professional video editing there is absolutely no point.
Thats not true, a lot of people want to play low-end games, which are barely useable with the integrated graphics.
Well by Apple's own description also, it's clearly about the "twinning" of OS-X (i.e. - the twin bridges). OS-X is being split into a "regular" and a "mobile" version for the iPhone and possibly for other unknown devices.agreed, most Mac-fans will be disappointed:
"Keynote
Monday, June 9, 2008
Apple Executives will showcase Mac OS X Leopard and OS X iPhone development platforms beginning at 10:00 a.m. at San Franciscos Moscone West."
This was taken from the "special events" section of Apple's very own webpage.
It will be mostly about the iPhone, and maybe a reference to 10.6. That will be all
The keynote by Jobs will state this and then bring up anything related to that. This includes:
- new 3G iPhone
- new mobile me site and dot mac reorganisation
- possible announcement of any new products using "mobile OS-X"
My wild card prediction is a new version of X-Code, possibly even including a windows version.
yup, agreed.
MacBook Pro's and MacBooks in August (around the same time the iMacs were released last year)
I suppose, but Apple doesn't really go after the gaming market
I suppose, but Apple doesn't really go after the gaming market
See this is where you're wrong...
You could never every play a game on a macbook 1-current generation but you could run motion, openGL went from 71 as high as 171% with Leopard and was reported to run motion fine on barefeats.com.
So, Apple cripples it, releases a X300, and now you cannot run motion at all, let alone a game, so it has nothing to do with gaming. And here is the thing that just BLOWS my mind. They cripple it for what is the smallest user base for Apple, the CREATIVE PRO users (one to one = not creative really but focus on iLife, not Pro Apps at all). So why cripple it for the smallest percent of the user base when their bread and butter is the macbook iphone ipod market?
You see, they could add a decent chip that would then allow for games, but that would also allow for MOTION, 3D users so APPLE purposely crippled it.
I saw the benchmarks personally and tested them with each generation as the MOTION debacle went on and on until finally APPLE killed it with the X300. Apple killing this means selfish act of typical APPLE "YOU MUST BUY HIGH END" and in doing so, loses out on the gaming market.
Are some of you so fan boyz that you don't see what I am getting (not you personally) but really, why bother, and if you make the argument about battery life, then why kill off the GMA chipset that had MOTION running and the benchmark that was on one generation of MACBOOK at 171% with Leopard? You can't.
The Pro's make them who they are, Apple = creative, then Apple DUMPS on them, forgets about the creative aspect, becomes a consumer product based company, drops computer from the name, drops MAC from the specialist sales person, then cripples a piece of hardware that would never become a PRO users one and only rig.
The Apple doesn't want the gaming market is a farce - they touted the iMAC as a gaming system a few months back and even had store events about it.
All you have to do is read between the lines and you can see how strange it is....
While Apple's market share IS NOT made up of the PRO market (the smallest of sales), the screw them, the one's who helped make apple who they are, the most, and that's what burns me.
Example:
Never a system that has good graphics unless a MBP or MAC PRO
If you use the iMAC argument, then you can't use a iMAC for CREATING or working in graphics as the glossy will not cut it.
If you use the iMAC in the MOTION argument, the same will fly, color problems.
If you use the iMAC or MACBOOK for audio/video, watch out, they even changed the WORLD WIDE STANDARD TEXAS INSTRUMENT chipset to a cheap chip set that causes all sorts of audio problems and sometimes video.
To date, only the macbook pro and Mac Pro have the Texas Instrument firewire.
So again, why?
It's not about "not caring for the gaming market" -as they had store events promoting the iMAC as a great gaming machine.
It's not about Apple losing market share to pro users as we hardly make up the user base (market share) at all.
So why screw with the smallest percentage? Again, even the previous on-board GMA gave you 171% in OpenGL, now at 70%.
The only reason I can really see is that no matter what, if you want to do anything pro, you can never have a back up system, or system that you can not have to worry about $599 (mini), $1000 macbook, vs a $2500 laptop, and that you always, always have to buy the highest end, even though all in all those are the smallest selling items.
I'm just glad when they released the financials not to long ago, that as predicted, the AIR bombed and have even heard specialist's at the Apple store say its way over priced and to under powered. Another good thing we can look forward to is that many developers are starting to tap into the GPU for processing in addition to the CPU (from AUDIO to GRAPHICS (audio plug ins to Adobe)), and that sometime in the future, unless Apple really wants to build closed end proprietary systems (Macbook, mini) which is what they will become if all other computers start to tap into low powered but strong graphic cards for additional power, is that eventually they will be forced into creating a better graphic machine and get over the "what if a pro uses it" mentality.
Just look at Jail Break and 3d party app's for the iPhone, some state that this is the very reason Apple decided to go for the SDK and developers.
Done ranting...
LOL.
It's too bad Vista stinks so much and that M$FT can't create a suite of programs that work so well together, or some 3rd party developer could come up with something that would make .DMG and .plist apple programs work on a PC. A PC that is that would not need to have Zone Lab, Virus, Spybot all loaded though. LOL.
PS. Apple friend told me at his store they now have Norton anti-VIRUS loaded on the back room, or back of house machines? What's up with that? Apple finally getting viruses? Tell me that isn't so?
I like the way you think. Anything MORE than what you listed, I will be surprised (pleasantly!) lol. Can't wait to watch it...last year's WWDC was incredibly underwhelming though.
Bingo. People expect way too much, then get mad when some speculation they read about or thought up in their own heads doesn't come through. I've been disappointed too, but the key is not not get your hopes up too much, not to believe in every rumor, and to remember that though Apple is a good company that makes cool stuff, they are just a company. They aren't perfect. And they definitely won't be making everyone happy all the time.
That being said, I'm sure there will be more complaining about how something sucks, for whatever reason, is far too expensive, how they're sick of hearing it even though they will take time out to read the article about it then comment on it, and how those of us who like it for what it is are all just delusional fanbois, as we already see here.
And the year before that's and MWSF this year and last year as well.
Yes, the iPhone announcement was very underwhelming.
As a Powermac user I ween that it is unimaginably perfect design. I see
no urgent need for case-redesign. And computer is not a flower
for display, but a tool for development.
no urgent need for case-redesign. And computer is not a flower
for display, but a tool for development.
Last June...we already knew about the iPhone...when it was over I was like "Is that it??!!". IMO this years MacWorld was still cool because we got some new stuff (MBA, TC, movie rentals). Last years MacWorld, although iPhone-centric, was still cool, because the iPhone is so revolutionary. Although I was bothered by the lack of Mac-related announcements, I wasn't nearly as disappointed as with the WWDC of that year.
I think the whole underwhelming-keynote idea is something that only we big-time Mac fans feel. Only on this forum do I hear people complaining about how lousy the keynote was
I remember the day the iPhone was announced, it was all over the news and nobody was angry because of an underwhelming keynote (except us). It's all good though! I for one can't wait for WWDC even though I know it won't live up to what we're all expecting/hoping for. It's just unrealistic to think Apple will update everything at the keynote. Especially the people asking for a midrange tower and a Mac tablet - those two things just won't happen imo.
Last June...we already knew about the iPhone..
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I think the whole underwhelming-keynote idea is something that only we big-time Mac fans feel. Only on this forum do I hear people complaining about how lousy the keynote was
It's just unrealistic to think Apple will update everything at the keynote. Especially the people asking for a midrange tower and a Mac tablet - those two things just won't happen imo.
Not too sure about everyone actually being firm about the iPhone's capabilities prior to the keynote. If anyone cares to link to their predictions, we're sure to enjoy them
The general public will get there true non-rumour info come the keynote. Just like us!
How is having too much to say in one keynote = total dissapointment. Disappointment comes in degrees. I'd imagine it's more frustrated anticipation than dissapointment.
Isn't about time we saw some photo's of black curtains and blurry banners?
So WWDC is a week away, surely there's some activity going on around Moscone (??? is that where it's happening, i forgotski's).
I want blurry photo's through glass, black curtains, partial blurry banner shots with oversized icon's. Gotta love that new icon analysis that goes on around here.
Throw in an elevator shot and i'll be all set for next Monday.
Get to it West Coast Macpaparazzi!
M.
So WWDC is a week away, surely there's some activity going on around Moscone (??? is that where it's happening, i forgotski's).
I want blurry photo's through glass, black curtains, partial blurry banner shots with oversized icon's. Gotta love that new icon analysis that goes on around here.
Throw in an elevator shot and i'll be all set for next Monday.
Get to it West Coast Macpaparazzi!
M.
The iPhone keynote was amazing up until the announcement that it would be on AT&T's EDGE network, then I lost interest.
The only thing that kept we watching was seeing Steve use the multi-touch gestures which is the real innovation behind the iPhone.
I forgot about MBA and TC. Those two were probably the heart stoppers for me. And you are right, after being there for the Intel switch, the launch of the Mac Mini, Shuffle, Nano, PowerMac G5, iMac G5, and everything since 2004 or so the stuff that comes now is a bit meh.