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WWDC Keynote Info? XServe, Mac Pro, Displays?

Stridder44 said:
Amen! I hate how old (6+ years) PC systems run Windows XP faster than my newer iMac G4 runs OS X.
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Wow. That is an amazing statement.

My 233 MHz G3 iMac (with supported Rage Pro video,) runs Panther faster than my 2.4 GHz Celeron runs XP. My Blue & White G3/300 MHz runs Tiger faster than my 2.8 GHz Celeron-D runs XP. My 300 MHz PowerBook G3 runs Tiger (even though it isn't officially supported,) faster than my 1.4 GHz Celeron-M (the one based on the same architecture as the Core Duo; rather than the slower-per-GHz desktop Celerons.) The PowerBook G3 even has a bad memory chip, and crashes occasionally because of it; yet it STILL crashes less often than my PC notebook running XP!

Both are on loan to a local coffee shop for use as their public-use internet computers. Yet even though the PowerBook G3 is circa-1999, running software it isn't meant to run, with only 128 MB of faulty RAM, it runs faster, and crashes less often, than a brand-new-last-November PC notebook with 512 MB of RAM, running the OS it came with. And I seem to go over to fix the PC 3-4 times as often as the Mac. (I have both 'locked down' to the best of my ability. Yet the PC gets broken into more often.)

Windows XP, with the latest updates, and current Anti-Virus software, are SIGNIFICANTLY slower than any of my OS X running Macs. I even have Virex running on most of my PPC Macs, as they are in a split networking environment.

edit: Ah... I see now. I missed the sarcasm. Sorry. :-D
 
Macrumors said:

Merom?
Also mentioned was a slight design update and Merom (Core 2 Duo Mobile) upgrade for one of Apple's products. Currently, MacRumors believes this to be in reference to the MacBook Pro, however with iMac supplies dwindling at many retail locations, the possibility exists that it could also be the target of an upgrade.
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Why would they put Merom in the iMac? Why I ask? :rolleyes:
 
abrooks said:
Why would they put Merom in the iMac? Why I ask? :rolleyes:
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because it's the same pin socket as Yonah. Conroe would require a board redesign. Yes, they used a mobile CPU in a desktop. It isn't much thicker than a dell.
 
Looks like I'm waiting till Paris to get a Mini. It's doubtful they'll see a speedbump, much less Merom till then.
Just give me a mid-tower and I'll order it next week.
 
Sijmen said:
Cinema Display's with iSight would be great. They need a price drop, too.

Now, I'm wondering: if the new ACDs get an IR receiver for the remote, what about pre-Front Row Macs? Will the display come with Front Row?
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And a 17" based on the iMac tube as well. Even with price drops, you're looking at a minimum of $500 for a display with the 20" is the lowest. That might be pocket change for some of you, but consumers usually can't afford that.

As for the Mac Pro, I hope there are two tiers. The Core 2 models would feature about a 400w power supply and 3 PCI-express slots in addition to the x16 and be based upon the P956 chipset and start at $1099. There would be three configurations. The Xeon workstations would feature a 700+w power supply, have the same expansion configuration as the G5, br based on the 5000x server ship set, feature a deeper case, and start at $2199.
 
In May Apple finally pushed Motorola off the train. On Monday, goodbye IBM and the PowerPC
 
lilstewart said:
then, uhh, why would the advertise that they work on PC's?
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They would still work on PCs just the iSight and the Remote (If there is one) wont work. And how said that Apple is going to advertise that they work on PC with this revision.
 
it seems like most of the focus is going to be on the higher end workstation and server eqiupment (the new mac pros, xserve and cinema displays). i doubt that there will be any other big annoucements in terms of hardware other than those.

with the transition to intel there will be many more updates on the processor side, something that didn't happen as much with the power pcs. i guess we'll have to see if apple adopts the same route as almost all the pc makers out there and updates their lines of consumer products at the rate that tech progresses or delays the release of such products to make more reliable products.

of course this whole event is still up to speculation. if i were to guess i'd say that there will just be an announcement of merom products shipping in macbook pro's and/or imacs in the coming months. and at most a slight case redesign, but since apple doesn't usually create just slight redesigns, i think they will most likely keep the case designs of the mpbs and imacs the same.

just my guess
 
The main thing is leopard not anything else. The rest of the stuff on the report is self-explanitary. They have to update the mac pro and cinema displays. The iPhone and iPod can wait. Merom in the laptops, well the laptops have seen a lot of action this year, maybe apple won't update them.

But what about these 3d features and OSXI (or ohsosexy lol)? ? ?
 
Does anyone know what type of performance hit the iMacs will take using Merom over Conroe? A friend of mine is thinking about switing to Mac. He's getting his PhD in economics and uses Unix a lot to run complex math equations. He's currently using a 4.5+ years old Dell laptop and he mentioned it took it 30+ hours to complete a set of computations. I just don't want to stear him in the wrong direction with the iMac if the mobile CPU isn't what's best for what he's doing. Honestly, I don't really understand the stuff he's doing so maybe someone here is more familiar with the econ stuff. In any case, he's looking at picking up the next iMac revision. The Mac Pro is out of the question due to cost.
 
ehurtley said:
Wow. That is an amazing statement.

My 233 MHz G3 iMac (with supported Rage Pro video,) runs Panther faster than my 2.4 GHz Celeron runs XP. My Blue & White G3/300 MHz runs Tiger faster than my 2.8 GHz Celeron-D runs XP. My 300 MHz PowerBook G3 runs Tiger (even though it isn't officially supported,) faster than my 1.4 GHz Celeron-M (the one based on the same architecture as the Core Duo; rather than the slower-per-GHz desktop Celerons.) The PowerBook G3 even has a bad memory chip, and crashes occasionally because of it; yet it STILL crashes less often than my PC notebook running XP!

Both are on loan to a local coffee shop for use as their public-use internet computers. Yet even though the PowerBook G3 is circa-1999, running software it isn't meant to run, with only 128 MB of faulty RAM, it runs faster, and crashes less often, than a brand-new-last-November PC notebook with 512 MB of RAM, running the OS it came with. And I seem to go over to fix the PC 3-4 times as often as the Mac. (I have both 'locked down' to the best of my ability. Yet the PC gets broken into more often.)

Windows XP, with the latest updates, and current Anti-Virus software, are SIGNIFICANTLY slower than any of my OS X running Macs. I even have Virex running on most of my PPC Macs, as they are in a split networking environment.

edit: Ah... I see now. I missed the sarcasm. Sorry. :-D
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Okay, I hate celeron, but u sure you have your Windows configured correctly, or do you have some program eating up a ton of memory?

Something is definitely not right when a 233 Mhz machine is beating out a 2.4 Ghz machine, I don't care WHAT OS they are respectively running.
 
Well the displays are in desperate need of an update. Mac Pro and Xserve are pretty much to be expected, Leopard 3D effects and virtual desktops sound great (although I've already got Desktop Manager). I'm also hoping for a unified interface as UNO's smaller icons are a bit annoying.
 
jholzner said:
Does anyone know what type of performance hit the iMacs will take using Merom over Conroe? A friend of mine is thinking about switing to Mac. He's getting his PhD in economics and uses Unix a lot to run complex math equations.
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Either one would likely be a decent improvement. The Merom will top out at 2.33 Ghz, and Conroe at 2.93 Ghz. If they have the same clock speed you should see nearly identical performance. For economics he is likely doing a lot of statistical analysis and modeling. Depending upon what he uses he should look into whether the tools he uses are universal binary yet or not. Two of the big applications he may be using are Mathamatica and Matlab. Mathamatica is universal binary but it does not support 64-bit on intel yet but that will likely change soon. Matlab I am not sure on. He may want to wait until the tools he needs are available.
 
Egosphere said:
As much as I want the MBP to be updated with Merom, I think it will be the iMac that will be updated this Monday.
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I thing the iMac and the MBP share the same electronic design. I expect them to be upgraded together. Same for the Mini and the MB. Theu are really the same computer inside too.
 
ITASOR said:
I still don't think they'll put iSights in the displays. Many, many, many people use dual displays and it would be weird to have them in both displays.

I think they will make a new version of the external iSight. When you have a laptop setup that you carry around, or a "sleek" iMac setup, an external iSight isn't really idea. However, when you have a 30" display, Mac Pro, etc. a small iSight sitting on your display is nothing. :)

And also....with Mac Mini's if they don't make an external iSight, you won't be able to video chat unless you have an Apple display? I highly doubt that.
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An external iSight with built in IR would make an excellent choice for those wanting to link headless Macs with their big screen TVs. That way they could hide the Mac and mount the iSight/IR receiver anywhere convienent.
 
BlizzardBomb said:
Well the displays are in desperate need of an update. Mac Pro and Xserve are pretty much to be expected, Leopard 3D effects and virtual desktops sound great (although I've already got Desktop Manager). I'm also hoping for a unified interface as UNO's smaller icons are a bit annoying.
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Agreed. I really hope they increase the resolution and drop the prices.
 
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