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WWDC Keynote Info? XServe, Mac Pro, Displays?

I think Apple might surprise a few people if Intel has delivered ample supplies of each line of the Core 2 chips. Steve J will no doubt spend some time talking about the PM replacement (and probably the server), but there is no problem with him taking 5 minutes of the Keynote to say that Apple likes the Core 2 lines so much that they are now putting them in all Macs, from the mini up - and the prices are staying the same.

While that may seem odd, the fact is that Apple will pay the same price for the Core 2s as they were paying for the Cores. With no cost change and socket compatibility the move to Core 2s is a no brainer.

While this will help pump up the developers (one of the goals of the Keynote) it will, more importantly, be a competitive move against the other OEMs and a good one at that.

For Leopard I'm looking for one or two neat surprises that the average consumer can relate to - Apple wants me and other users to purchase Leopard. I also see Steve J emphasizing the fact that Leopard will be faster than any previous version of OS X since he loves speed. The rest of the goodies will be held for the NDA sessions and too technical for me to understand anyway.

Displays? New ones would be nice, but I have my 23" hooked up to my PB at the office and love it as much today as I did on day one.

As for the "consumer" side, Apple released iSight at WWDC as I recall. I don't see iPods arriving (better done at Paris), but it does leave a potential for the iPhone if it's ready.

Oh, one more thing - the stock price will increase after the Keynote . . .
 
kenaustus said:
Oh, one more thing - the stock price will increase after the Keynote . . .
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Either that or it will increase on Friday with all the people expecting a jump and then take a dive Monday.
 
danielwsmithee said:
Either one would likely be a decent improvement. The Merom will top out at 2.33 Ghz, and Conroe at 2.93 Ghz. If they have the same clock speed you should see nearly identical performance. For economics he is likely doing a lot of statistical analysis and modeling. Depending upon what he uses he should look into whether the tools he uses are universal binary yet or not. Two of the big applications he may be using are Mathamatica and Matlab. Mathamatica is universal binary but it does not support 64-bit on intel yet but that will likely change soon. Matlab I am not sure on. He may want to wait until the tools he needs are available.
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Conroe also has a faster bus running at 1066Mhz instead of the Merom's 667Mhz bus. Memory intensive apps will benefit from that. Plus Conroe is cheaper than Merom so Apple can either reduce prices or increase clock speed.

I think they'll stick Conroe in the iMac personally unless they're hell bent on running as quietly as possible.
 
No iPods till Oct.

I hope none of you are holding your breath for new iPods..

I'd love the new iPods to be available before Oct. However I have this Aperture rebate coupon for $200 that expires.. hmmmm... Expiration Date: September 30, 2006

$200 = 2GB iPod nano... Had hoped when I got the coupon, that Apple would intro larger nanos and $200 would get me closer to 4GB... Now, however, I'm thinking we won't see anything till Oct 1st. Apple will want people sitting on these coupons on Sept 29th to think, "Well damnit I guess I'll get the 4GB and pay $50 extra..." to clear out stock before the intro.


Just my $0.02US.


jwd
 
ITASOR said:
I think they will make a new version of the external iSight. When you have a laptop setup that you carry around, or a "sleek" iMac setup, an external iSight isn't really idea.
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It's better than the bloody stupid internal iSight.

Video chat is a daft idea, and putting in a camera that can ONLY be used for video chat would probably qualify as Apple's biggest screwup since the one button mouse... if they hadn't such a sterling record of putting daft ideas into production.

I need to cobble up some kind of periscope dealie to make my Macbook's iSight useful for something other than a screen saver.
 
bankshot said:
I don't get the feeling that we're ready to make anywhere near as big of a jump as OS 9 to X, but hopefully this (if true in any sense) addresses some of the performance issues that still plague OS X. From things I've read and from my own observations, I get the impression that the Mach side of XNU still introduces some significant performance hits when messages need to be passed around.
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It adds considerable overhead, period. They quit using Mach messages by preference some time ago. Unfortunately even without Mach they've still got a lot more linker overhead than most UNIXes. When process creation is quicker in Linux than Mac OS X even with all the overhead Linux glibc imposes, there's something really wrong.

FreeBSD + IOkit would rock, especially if that meant they put back some of the essential *server* support from FreeBSD, like Jails, traditional UNIX tape support, and headless operation.
 
Stridder44 said:
Amen! I hate how old (6+ years) PC systems run Windows XP faster than my newer iMac G4 runs OS X.
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Partly Mach's fault, but... your 6 year old PC may have a faster memory bus than your newer iMac G4.

That's the biggest win that Apple got out of the intel switch... losing the G4 memory bottleneck. Pity they didn't give Freescale a chance to demonstrate the G4's successor (e600) running with its high speed memory bus in a Mac.
 
I really wonder if Steve is going to talk about OS 11. It's so far away from now...

Wow, Monday is going to be so exciting. WWDC has NEVER been this exciting...The Intel switch made people like me and you angry and generated tons of arguements...fast forward a year ago and it's the best thing Apple ever did.

Definetely cannot wait until Monday...

I just want to sleep until Monday morning just so I don't have to wait...:(
 
danielwsmithee said:
Here is betting the OS 11 will be completely 64-bit and all Apple computers will be 64-bit capable by the end of the year (ie no more yonah).
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Here's hoping it won't be completely 64 bit.

I've been using a full 64-bit native OS for over a decade now, and if you REALLY need 64 bit you're probably already using 64-bit server-class UNIX like Tru64 (curse Compaq for killing that). If you're not, you're better off waiting. The only reason for going 64 bit is if you've got a HUGE per-process address space problem, or you're running on a machine with a crippled 32-bit mode (like Alpha or AMD64*).

Making Quartz and Aqua 64 bit would require either having a a 32-bit thunking library stub or running two sets of most of the libraries concurrently. Either of these options will hurt performance. And for most applications it would actually slow things down, because of the overhead of throwing around all the extra bits in code that doesn't need to know about them.

The best option would be to keep the graphics 32-bit and have a 64-bit thunking library stub for the few applications that need both the 64-bit extra-large address space and GUI elements.

* Props to AMD for using 64-bit in a successful marketing campaign to dump Intel's crippling register bottleneck.
 
gauchogolfer said:
No way is this real, PS job for certain. Plus, why the camera on the front if it's an 'iChat mobile' ?
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It's probably a fake, but the camera is on the back because that's the *smart* place to put it on a video phone. Scroll up a few messages for my comments on "video chat". :rolleyes:
 
ehurtley said:
Now that I realize the 2.4 GHz only has 128 MB of RAM, I think I'll just have it go without AV, and 'retire' it to being only a distributed computing machine.
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I've run Windows 2000 in as little as 64M, but *damn*.

I wouldn't run either XP or OS X in 128M. The least I've ever run OS X in was a Powermac 7600/180 with 112M RAM. It took 20 hours to complete the install.
 
argent said:
I've run Windows 2000 in as little as 64M, but *damn*.

I wouldn't run either XP or OS X in 128M. The least I've ever run OS X in was a Powermac 7600/180 with 112M RAM. It took 20 hours to complete the install.
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Yeah, when XP first came out, I installed it on a subnotebook with a Pentium MMX 266 MHz and 64 MB of RAM. (It used a custom memory module that cost about 10 times as much as memory should cost.) When run with the 'Classic' look, it was acceptable. But with SP2 and modern AV software, I wouldn't dare.

I also have OS X (Panther) running on an original iMac G3 233 MHz with only 96 MB of RAM. It didn't take forever to install. I think the PM7600's slow hard drive and memory subsystems were the problem, not the amount of memory. (I have also run OS X on a PM7300/200, with 256 MB of RAM, and it was painfully slow.)
 
lu0s3r322 said:
Just posted on Engadget

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http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/02/ichat-mobile-is-it-the-iphone-part-forty-bajillion/
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That looks like crap...if you are gonna make a fake at least have it look good!:p
 
ehurtley said:
I also have OS X (Panther) running on an original iMac G3 233 MHz with only 96 MB of RAM. It didn't take forever to install. I think the PM7600's slow hard drive and memory subsystems were the problem, not the amount of memory.
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I'm absolutely sure it was the amount of RAM, because when I got it upgraded to 256MB it was fine... and it was using the internal (fast) SCSI bus with a Seagate Barracuda (about the fastest drive you could get at the time).

This was Puma, not Panther. You couldn't run Panther on a 604e.
 
Strange that the rumor mill hasnt mentioned Boot Camp at all. I am curious to see where bootcamp takes us; I would really like to see "Fast OS Switching" similar to fast user switching. That would make the Windows aspect of the new machines more friendly for users that need both, while avoiding tainting OSX with windows apps running integrated. (Which could also discourage developers making OSX programs)

I would like to see a new 23" display that is actually of as-good quality as Dells 24". Its a shame that such a nice unit as the 23" is plagued with all sorts of color consistency issues. Its a POS. (Ive owned 3, gave up and purchased 2 20" instead)
 
the displays will be updated and inclube iSights. Now you may ask how will it be positioned properly? there will be servos which will be controlled via the mightymouse ball. :)
 
argent said:
It's better than the bloody stupid internal iSight.

Video chat is a daft idea, and putting in a camera that can ONLY be used for video chat would probably qualify as Apple's biggest screwup since the one button mouse...
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Actually I rather like iSight when traveling on business trips - I get to see the wife and grandkids while talking to them. As for the grandkids, my 4 year old granddaughter has a ball with those iSight chats.

It's one of those "to each his own" sort of things. It's also a great way for someone heading off to college to get a Macbook while the parents get a Mac of some type - showing them how they can have iSight chats all the time . . .
 
"Old Displays"

I wonder how much the current displays' prices will drop if new ones are released tomorrow.

It'd be nice to get a great price on two 20" models.
 
Dashcode

Don't forget Dashcode is the new software gift for all developers.

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