Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Hmmm… Apple has gone from zero to world's second biggest phone manufacturer in 4 years; their new approach has knocked out Nokia and Palm, while BlackBerry and WinPhone7 are on the ropes. But Apple just doesn't compete.

What would it look like if they DID compete?

Another little factoid from the Windows war that Apple lost because they don't know how to compete: Friday Apple's stock value topped the total of Microsoft + Intel. Every investor has a different reason for buying one stock versus another, but expected growth is near the top of almost all investors' lists. The people who have no reason to get their egos wrapped up in A vs B flamewars are saying that Apple's future growth looks pretty damned impressive — especially considering that 10 years ago, MSFT+INTC was almost 100X AAPL.

WWDC is about what products they're bringing to market in 2011 and beyond. Most posters here are recognizing that a seamless cloud that ties together your phone, your desktop, your music, your files no matter where you want to access them, simply, is one MF big deal. We'll have a better idea in 21 hours!

Apple is 4th with 4.1% of the total share of mobile phones. If it is smart phones then I think its samsung then apple.

http://www.internetekg.com/?p=198
 
WWDC Predictions:

(1) iCloud - rebranded MobileMe, with major Sync features. Will finally be as good as Dropbox, but system wide. iTunes features not fully robust yet but will be fully functional in September which will be demoed at the annual iPod Event.

(2) Time Capsule update - related to the iCloud announcement as rumors have suggested. A5 processor, Media + Document Server to Macs and iOS. Automatic updates as well.

(3) iOS 5 - Biggest upgrade to iOS since the app store. New notifications, new swiping gestures, widgets, more multitasking, etc...release for both iPhone/iPad in the fall, BETA available at WWDC.

(4) Mac OSX Lion - same features that have been already demoed. Only new features will be anything related to iCloud. Hopefully there is something else that is new, but I am not holding my breath. Best new feature = price point of $49...on the Mac App Store in two weeks.

(5) Back to School Promo - only news because they will take $200 off an iPad.

(6) One More Thing: Macbook Air Update - mentioned to coincide with the Lion release as it did at the Lion preview last October. Sandybridge + Backlit Keyboard returns.

No iPhone update.
No iWork update.
No Blu-Ray support in OSX.
No Final Cut X info (although this should be coming VERY soon).
There's no way MobileMe will be rebranded as iCloud. Then our @me.com email addresses won't make much sense anymore, think about it.
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Mobile/8J2)

I'll be there - in spirit. Bring on 1pm!
 
There's no way MobileMe will be rebranded as iCloud. Then our @me.com email addresses won't make much sense anymore, think about it.

Just look at the logo, it's pretty obvious it's being rebranded. Same MobileMe cloud.

New accounts will get @icloud.com. Your @me.com address will still work, just as @mac.com does.
 
Agreed!
I think Apple's biggest problem is the minor incremental updates they do, and then tout them as something NEW AND EXCITING. It goes back to basic phone features like MMS and how long it took to include such basic things that should have been there at launch. Same with hardware. I see the marketing strategy in there, but they need to step it up a bit. In the time it takes to get 1 IOS refresh, Google puts out 2-3 with major changes and updates.

This year Widgets are going to be a hot feature (if the rumor is true). Widgets??? Something every other phone already has? Even basic messaging devices? (Face slap.) However, I am holding out hope that IOS5 will leave us with our tongues hanging out, but I'm also a realist that won't be disappointed if it lacks any wow factor.

MMS is one of the most stupid things there is. Use email on the phone.

Widgets was innovated to OSX 10.4 and later copied to windows/google. No one I know uses widgets on computers. Why is this so important on phones? Can't apps do the same as widgets?

Google has had an easy ride so far. They bought Android. Copied ideas from Apple including cloning the Iphone on Android prototypes. Android 3.x is Googles first own version of Android. So far they have not been able to make a stable release of 3.x.

The interesting thing is that being best does not matter.

In 1980ish: Steve confronted Bill about Microsoft copied Windows from mac prototypes.
Bill: "You are to late"
Steve: "We are better then you. We have better stuff"
Bill: "You don't get it Steve. That does not matter!"
(from the book Fire in the valley)

The point being. Android does not have to be as good as Ios. Since majority of people who use Android never used or will use Ios, they don't care.
Same with PC. People believe that your computer should crash a couple of times per week, and that virus and malware has to exist. They don't understand that it is a Windows problem.

No *nix has had problem with viruses (it is technically impossible to make viruses on *nix since you need be given Root password by the individual user), and malware/scareware has been very limited. Until now: Google Android has had over 350000 infected phones. It took Google to make *nix insecure.

Users with Android have loads of problems that are unheard of in Ios. All the widgets and in elegant multitasking results in 3hour battery time. Solution: Download power management app, disable widgets and multitasking programs.
There are loads of malware in the Google app store. Solution: install firewall on you phone.

Tech geeks think its normal to have to install apps to make your phone work. I call it an un elegant solution.
 
What gets posted in a spoiler free thread?

Every time that Apple doesn't post a live stream, a bunch of us who like watching the video that gets posted later like to not know anything about what is and isn't said during the presentation and watch it once it's posted as if it were live so we get surprised during the keynote in stead of by a third party tweet or something. A few people keep checking if it's posted on apple's site or iTunes that don't care and tell us, and Voidness in the past has written a script so that it notifies us automatically when it's up, without us going to the page and seeing like "ipad 2 announced, watch the video" or in this case "iphone 4s, keynote here" or something. Those of us who stay in the thread talk about anything not related to apple that day, tomorrow, usually previous posts or music/film/general thoughts etc. MR usually hosts one every event on page 2 but I haven't seen it yet in the "mac blog" new section ..."
 
Obviously, it's the soon-to-be-killed iSync.

Exactly the association I made. The iCloud button is essentially a squared iSync button with new decals.

I doubt very much that this a coincidence or laziness on the part of Apple. Syncing is the whole reason for iCloud. So if it's replacing iSync, is it also possible that we might see it replacing some of the iTunes syncing bloat?
 

Attachments

  • iSync.png
    iSync.png
    14.8 KB · Views: 1,144
  • iCloud.png
    iCloud.png
    20.2 KB · Views: 1,165
Every time that Apple doesn't post a live stream, a bunch of us who like watching the video that gets posted later like to not know anything about what is and isn't said during the presentation and watch it once it's posted as if it were live so we get surprised during the keynote in stead of by a third party tweet or something. A few people keep checking if it's posted on apple's site or iTunes that don't care and tell us, and Voidness in the past has written a script so that it notifies us automatically when it's up, without us going to the page and seeing like "ipad 2 announced, watch the video" or in this case "iphone 4s, keynote here" or something. Those of us who stay in the thread talk about anything not related to apple that day, tomorrow, usually previous posts or music/film/general thoughts etc. MR usually hosts one every event on page 2 but I haven't seen it yet in the "mac blog" new section ..."

Sounds good.

I'd join you there but I'm too impatient. :)
 
Just look at the logo, it's pretty obvious it's being rebranded. Same MobileMe cloud.

New accounts will get @icloud.com. Your @me.com address will still work, just as @mac.com does.
Are you sure about that part?

icloud.com is just too long a word. Also, kinda impractical to buy me.com domain name for millions of dollars only to have it phased out a couple of years later. :confused:
 
Are you sure about that part?

icloud.com is just too long a word. Also, kinda impractical to buy me.com domain name for millions of dollars only to have it phased out a couple of years later. :confused:

I dont think Me will be phased out. Its too....new. Granted its got a very bad reputation for being slow, unreliable and buggy...but Apple will want to keep it there otherwise it'll be almost admitting that they failed.

I think iCloud will have only a minor part in the MobileMe arena, and become its own additional product.
 
Thinking about it, I'd like the One More Thing...to be an updated MBA. Give it HD Facetime, backlit keyboard, sandbridge, better battery and a 3G micro sim bay and dump it into the Macbook space (with similar pricing). The MBA is a an iCloud device in essence due to it's small storage; it should have 3G connectivity...
 
Are you sure about that part?

icloud.com is just too long a word. Also, kinda impractical to buy me.com domain name for millions of dollars only to have it phased out a couple of years later. :confused:

No, I'm not sure. me.com is nice and short. It's quite possible they could put everything under the "iCloud" umbrella, but keep the calendar/webmail stuff as "MobileMe." We'll see tomorrow.

Thinking about it, I'd like the One More Thing...to be an updated MBA. Give it HD Facetime, backlit keyboard, sandbridge, better battery and a 3G micro sim bay and dump it into the Macbook space (with similar pricing). The MBA is a an iCloud device in essence due to it's small storage; it should have 3G connectivity...


If the MBA were to warrant a mention, it would need a major new feature--it couldn't be just a speed bump like the new MBP. 3G sounds plausible--there's built-in 3G support in Lion now. It would fit in nicely with the iCloud. $599 MBA with 2-year 3G contract would definitely warrant a "one more thing." I wouldn't hold my breath, though.


I dont think Me will be phased out. Its too....new. Granted its got a very bad reputation for being slow, unreliable and buggy...but Apple will want to keep it there otherwise it'll be almost admitting that they failed.

Apple has no trouble admitting when they failed. Remember the AppleTV 2.0 introduction? I expect when steve introduces iCloud, he will first talk about why MobileMe sucks, and then how iCloud is fixing it.
 
Last edited:
I reckon the mini will be silently refreshed this week, like last year.
Perhaps the MBA will be too or they will wait till october like last year, and when intel have the newer lower power sandy bridge chips for ultra portables.
Safari 6 perchance.....no itunes till September, unless they have magically and secretly re-written it and are going to blow us away with it at WWDC, with immediate availabilty.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.