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Tiger on G3 400MHz

Master Windu said:
It seemed to me that SpotLight is the most useful tool shown in the keynote was Spotlight. I bet that a new file system is required to drive the operation. I bet the upgrade will nessarly be destructive to current data and settings. An upgrade from a panther system should be fine for some. The currently selling emac will meet the min specs I am sure. Sorry G3 or G4 < 1.25 Ghz. G4's may need a memory upgrade to work.

The developer release of Tiger already runs, faster than Panther,
on an iMac G3 400MHz. I am very much looking forward to progress
from here on......
 
Hi everyone! I'm a new poster here. I've been a fairly diehard PC guy while keeping one eye fixed on the Mac since the g4's were first released, wodering what the fuss was about. (As I was quite certain, PC's of a non-consumer type were just as good if not better for editing video)

This last WWDC keynote was a real eye-opener for me. I was at first wanting to see hardware, and was let down (no new iMac). I stumbled on something much much more important, that was Tiger. I was FLOORED! I should preface this by saying that I edit video, I work in photoshop, and have massive amounts of HD space (630 gigs on 6 drives). It's as though they have designed Tiger around me.

Core video - What they were doing to that HD clip was staggering. Currently you need a 3ghz machine to play 1080P WMV_HD, on a PC without dropping frames. It's a whole lot of work to performa decoding on HD. The graphics card taking over these decompression duties is cool (It's in Panther right now, right?), but performing filters on top of that? It's going to put video editing on Mac to another level (FCP is nice, but a PC has it at least matched with the likes of Vegas, AVID, and Premiere PRO) FCP with this tech under the hood is going to be a whole new beast. Motion has this tech or will when it ships (has it?), but it's no after-effects killer, more like LiveType on steroids. Of course, I may be overestimating the performance gains, but it will be nice, nonetheless.

Spotlight - Does this sound like WinFS to anyone else? Amazing functionality that will not be on PC's for a long time. Maybe there have been other things like it, but this is the most refined and powerful way to find files and INFO (that's pretty key, there) on your computer. It's quite an elegant thing, and given the headaches WinFS is giving M$, a Mac fanboy :D should not underestimate this very involved technology, as it give apple major bragging rights.

This is as ground breaking as it gets for OS', folks. While this stuff is not going to be of benefit to the average Panther user, it's un-freaking-believeable for us content creation guys. With a change of OS, a lowly g5 imac (coming soon) will be rawking all over dual Opteron systems (Of who's existance Apple is in denial of, because they will actually best the new 2.5's I'm sure) in Photoshop, Video editing, and for the heck of it file searching.
 
If you think that was impressive, go to www.apple.com and have a look at the NAB demo of Final Cut Pro HD. They have up to 10 HD streams playing simoultaneously, and have real-time distortion, rotation, cropping and colour correction - at the same time - on a HD stream. Pretty impressive.
 
>>Microsoft borrowed the idea for the taskbar from RISC OS, which had it way back in the early nineties.<<

Actually they took the Start button from Xerox Parc.

>>Rarely is something entirely new found. But Apple above most have a knack for getting the implementation right.<<

Agreed on the first part. The second is a matter of taste, both sides get some things right. Both sides have lots of room for improvement.
 
Ha ha, I just noticed (and someone's probably already posted this) but if you look at the Apple stock prices gadget:

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The three companies listed are AAPL (Apple), MSFT (Microsoft), PIXR (Pixar) and AMZN (Amazon)...
Everything is up except for MSFT which is down by 1.34 :D

The graphics department must have been having fun...

Well, that's all I got for now.
 
Wardofsky said:
Ha ha, I just noticed (and someone's probably already posted this) but if you look at the Apple stock prices gadget:
It's been noticed but I still think it's pretty funny. But Apple up $7, that would be quite a good day for its stock. :eek: :D
 
The big selling point

IMHO one of the things that will make Tiger sell like hotcakes is the Migration Tool.. if you format a new drive the Migration Tool kicks in and tells you step by step how to boot your old machine into Target mode (or, will let you select an alternate HD on the ATA bus) and I've been able to test all my Panther apps with almost no problems! Hot-cha-cha-cha!

Stuffit Expander works like a champ, and Spotlight is SO unnervingly fast and complete that I'm not gonna install it at home where the wife can find out about the fifty-seven affairs I'm having with the graduating class of Swarthmore. :)
 
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Master Windu said:
It seemed to me that SpotLight is the most useful tool shown in the keynote was Spotlight. I bet that a new file system is required to drive the operation.


Nope, it's still Mac OS Extended last time I looked.


Master Windu said:
I bet the upgrade will nessarly be destructive to current data and settings.


Nope, I used the Migration Tool to move all my old stuff from a Panther drive. Everything's the same right down to my desktop picture.


Master Windu said:
An upgrade from a panther system should be fine for some. The currently selling emac will meet the min specs I am sure. Sorry G3 or G4 < 1.25 Ghz. G4's may need a memory upgrade to work.

Works just dandy on an 'old' 800 MHz QuickSilver G4 with 640 MB RAM. Also have it running on a G4/450 with only 384MB.. The biggest gotcha is that you need a DVD drive to install from the WWDC handout. 1 GB is the sweet spot for Panther and probably Tiger too.
 
Earl Urly said:
IMHO one of the things that will make Tiger sell like hotcakes is the Migration Tool..

Maybe. I got my G5 last week and used that tool. I would NOT recommend it for "power" users. Seems I had things where I wanted them, not following "standard Apple proceedure". I also had lots of background apps and funky plists. It made the new G5 useless and beyond unstable. For a casual user you are, I believe, very correct. However, Apple should concentrate on a WINDOWS migration tool. They had/have one. Making that thing bullet-proof is more important.
 
yeah

i heard about it via webcast.. they also said there were better speech options or so, can anyone send me any details of that???
could you private message me with any details plz??? thanx in advance
 
webmatthijs said:
i heard about it via webcast.. they also said there were better speech options or so, can anyone send me any details of that???
could you private message me with any details plz??? thanx in advance

I'm not sure if you are talking about Speech recognition or not. At the talk by David Pogue at MacWorld Boston, doesn't expect it to work any time soon. He is currently using it on a PC, using "Naturally Speaking. Recommended that if we were really interested to purchase a PC on eBay just for speech recognition. Then transfer your work to the Mac.
 
thecombatwombat said:
So much of ichat seems multi-protocol as it is (I guess with .mac and rendezvous it . . . sort of is . . .).

others pointed out that Jabber will be supported. I believe the reasons Apple doesn't support other protocols is purely political. The agreement with AOL may state that Apple not support other systems.
 
SiliconAddict said:
"-I have a new ThinkPad T42 from my company. I also have a $3,200 interest free loan from them ready and waiting to go on a 17" G5 PowerBook. When Apple? When?"

You mean "when, IBM, when" as Apple needs them to come out with a lower power, less heat chip. Or, just carry around an iMac G5 as that's what they're locked to (three fans to keep it cool and AC mains to keep it going).
 
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