higher pricepoint? So they went from overpriced and underpowered to decently powered but insanely overpriced? I'll pass. the new CPU is actually cheaper to obtain than Moto chips and Apple has a very fat profit margin on powermacs. Now they actually hike prices in the light of switcher campaigns? Total bull****. Cut prices or stop wasting my time.
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they may increase the price of the powermac, especially at the top end, because they can. for the people that a dual 2ghz PPC970 is really aimed at (ie people who actually use it for, like, work rather than dick measuring) a few hundred bucks here and there is nothing when compared to the time and money you'll save with a faster machine.
i'm personally expecting apple to introcuce a lowcost box to answer everyone's cost concerns. a single process, headless, not really decked-out but decent iBox or something.
i'm personally expecting apple to introcuce a lowcost box to answer everyone's cost concerns. a single process, headless, not really decked-out but decent iBox or something.
Who buys a handicapped iBox when it is meant for switchers who measure price/performance by specs and then see that a Dell box offers more for less? Your argumentation doesn't hold up. 20% pricecut on the G5 lowend Powermac compared to the G4 and they still make a decent profit whilke actually being competitive.
Don't forget there's a significant R&D cost on this, particularly if Apple is having two motherboards for the line (as is being conjectured). Apple survives on those large margins, and frankly, if Apple believes they can milk nice profits from these new machines that we're all craving, and still sell significant volume above the current G4s, that makes sense to the board and to stockholders.
Specs from GIF FAKE!!!
Specs from GIF FAKE!!!
The Dutch website MacFreak is reporting that the specs on the GIF were fake. The author of the website could confirm this thru several contacts from within Apple itself.
It seems that someone form an external bureau that Apple has worked with before still had access to the Akamai server. That way he could upload the gif without Apple knowing about it.
Sorry folks, don't believe these specs yet...
Specs from GIF FAKE!!!
The Dutch website MacFreak is reporting that the specs on the GIF were fake. The author of the website could confirm this thru several contacts from within Apple itself.
It seems that someone form an external bureau that Apple has worked with before still had access to the Akamai server. That way he could upload the gif without Apple knowing about it.
Sorry folks, don't believe these specs yet...
Yeah, I think he would. I mean the 15.4 is not going to be a drastic change. Steve got the wow factor with the 12" and 17" PowerBooks, now the 15" is technically a 'necessary update' - that's all. So it'll probably be intro'd at Create, just to have something to show.
I think you better start learning how to read financial statements before you start giving advice on how Apple should price it's products. For FY2002 (that's "Full Year" in case you didn't know) apple had only a 1% return on net sales (see apple's 5 year financials here ). For FY2001 they had NO return on net sales because they made a loss. I'm not quite sure how reducing profit margins so you can afford to buy a machine would help them. They aren't making a "decent profit" as is much less if they start cutting margins. If you want to rant, rant about something you have an education on.
Getting back on topic, I expect that prices might rise a bit for the mid and higher end machines because as stated in previous posts these are the machines that professionals who really NEED the speed will buy. I still think that they will try and keep the low end at current levels (although, this might not be true if they decide as someone suggested to continue selling one G4 model, like the dual 1.25??). I'm waiting for monday to see if this is worth a graduation present.
On those PowerBooks
Something I haven't heard mentioned is that there were fairly solid reports of Apple receiving shipments of 1.4Ghz PPC 970's. If we now take the 1.6, 1.8, 2x2.0 Ghz Desktops for a reality.
It leaves one to wonder where those 1.4Ghz PPC 970's went?
Originally posted by cb911
well... it starting to look like we would be lucky if we got PowerBook updates tomorrow...
i'm still hoping that Apple will release them thought. at least we'll get to see the PPC 970, that's almost certain.
Something I haven't heard mentioned is that there were fairly solid reports of Apple receiving shipments of 1.4Ghz PPC 970's. If we now take the 1.6, 1.8, 2x2.0 Ghz Desktops for a reality.
It leaves one to wonder where those 1.4Ghz PPC 970's went?
Re: Specs from GIF FAKE!!!
This has been reported several times already. I'm not positive, but I think if they were fake that Apple would have to make some kind of comment on them due to false advertising laws and full disclosure laws. If companies were allowed to let false information loose then they could manipulate their share price. If it was hacked apple would have to say that this was not the real information so that they were not seen to be doing the aforementioned manipulation.
This has been reported several times already. I'm not positive, but I think if they were fake that Apple would have to make some kind of comment on them due to false advertising laws and full disclosure laws. If companies were allowed to let false information loose then they could manipulate their share price. If it was hacked apple would have to say that this was not the real information so that they were not seen to be doing the aforementioned manipulation.
regarding a final X11 as a requirement for OpenOffice, who needs that? qt is ported to mac, and is opensource now, so we get stuff like KOffice!
http://ranger.befunk.com/blog/archives/000072.html
http://ranger.befunk.com/blog/archives/000072.html
if you could read financial statements you'd see that they plainly state that they don't make gains because noone buys the friggin underpowered powermacs and that they issued profit warnings in case those sales don't drasticly improve. If you poke around further you'd realize that Apple makes as much as 30% profits from the sale of a powermac.
Re: On those PowerBooks
Or the "cheap" headless desktop...
Well OBVIOUSLY the 1.4s are going in the new iMacs and Powerbooks....
Or the "cheap" headless desktop...
Re: WWDC - One Day More... Final Thoughts
Awww man! I was really hoping for close to the same price structure though I knew they'd up the price. Well, I guess I'll just have to get the 1.6 instead of the 1.8. A 1.6 gig machine will still give me a warm fuzzy feeling.
Awww man! I was really hoping for close to the same price structure though I knew they'd up the price. Well, I guess I'll just have to get the 1.6 instead of the 1.8. A 1.6 gig machine will still give me a warm fuzzy feeling.
LOL. "like, work." Get off your high horse. How many people use macs because they _have_ to? Not all that many, as a percentage. Most apps are available on PC's, and they work fine. We use Macs because we _like_ them. You're just as frivolous as the rest of us.
Jobs
> Do you think he'd actually let anyone else announce new products?<
Definitely not. Lets face it, he is a great at it, loves doing it, and there is no way he'd let someone else announce something like the G5. The G5 is too big a step for Apple to entrust to someone else.
> Do you think he'd actually let anyone else announce new products?<
Definitely not. Lets face it, he is a great at it, loves doing it, and there is no way he'd let someone else announce something like the G5. The G5 is too big a step for Apple to entrust to someone else.
thanks for the summary:
this is all very exciting. good stuff on the horizon, it seems. since i'm not in the market for a new machine, the panther features are a nice thing to focus on. i'll be ready to go g5 by rev. b. if the powermac rumors hold true, MacBid would have had the scoop for months. i guess we'll have to wait and see.
this is all very exciting. good stuff on the horizon, it seems. since i'm not in the market for a new machine, the panther features are a nice thing to focus on. i'll be ready to go g5 by rev. b. if the powermac rumors hold true, MacBid would have had the scoop for months. i guess we'll have to wait and see.
Re: Jobs
Well, considering the general concensus is that the G5 will be at WWDC, the new G4 15.4" Powerbook will not be a big deal, and we're talking about the Create show anyway. Read the posts.
Well, considering the general concensus is that the G5 will be at WWDC, the new G4 15.4" Powerbook will not be a big deal, and we're talking about the Create show anyway. Read the posts.
According to the schedule for Monday it's at 10:00 a.m. west coast (Pacific) time, so that means 1:00 p.m. EST (and not 2:00 p.m. EST).
Ashami's predictions
Okay, just for fun, this is what I think Monday will look like:
Panther preview
1) new iChat with videoconferencing
2) ability to change ui from metal to aqua (ie. themes)
3) much snappier(tm)
4) Quicktime 6.5
5) All iApps updated
New 970s
1) Called the G5 (yuk)
2) low end towers and pro books available immediately, others in a month or two
3) iMac and iBook lines will have 970s by year's end
4) low-end 970s will rival Intel's best
5) all prices will be the same as current models (if not slightly less)
6) a completely new, kick-ass case
Other
1) several immediate software updates: for sure Safari
2) iWorks demo
3) possibly 10.2.6 update
4) new videocam
5) some new ultracool iThing
6) Steve will wear a red turtleneck
Okay, just for fun, this is what I think Monday will look like:
Panther preview
1) new iChat with videoconferencing
2) ability to change ui from metal to aqua (ie. themes)
3) much snappier(tm)
4) Quicktime 6.5
5) All iApps updated
New 970s
1) Called the G5 (yuk)
2) low end towers and pro books available immediately, others in a month or two
3) iMac and iBook lines will have 970s by year's end
4) low-end 970s will rival Intel's best
5) all prices will be the same as current models (if not slightly less)
6) a completely new, kick-ass case
Other
1) several immediate software updates: for sure Safari
2) iWorks demo
3) possibly 10.2.6 update
4) new videocam
5) some new ultracool iThing
6) Steve will wear a red turtleneck
Blow-by-blow?
The Event
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Will MacRumors be giving a blow-by-blow like with previous shows?
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The Event
- The forums will be closed during WWDC due to server demands.
- No Live stream is publically available.
Will MacRumors be giving a blow-by-blow like with previous shows?
No live stream means no info out at all?