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WWDC to Fall on June 5-9th, 2011?
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Agree - Dock and Menu needs to be on both monitors - so annoying how it is right now - I can't even put the dock on the corner 'between' the monitors.
I am starting to serious doubt apple will release another vierzon iphone just 4 months after this iphone 4 came out. It will piss off users.
I think they will announce AT&T iphone 5 will come first before Verizon's.
Will it this year? Probably.
March/April= iPad 2
Q1= New MBP
Q2= New iMac
June/July= iPhone 5
Q2/Q3=New MBA
September= iPod line ups
November= Update time for notebooks.
I think they will announce AT&T iphone 5 will come first before Verizon's.
Will it this year? Probably.
March/April= iPad 2
Q1= New MBP
Q2= New iMac
June/July= iPhone 5
Q2/Q3=New MBA
September= iPod line ups
November= Update time for notebooks.
Wait
Again, I'm confused. What is this "OS X Lion"? What does it do? No iOS? I mean, Apple makes desktop computers?! WOW.
Xcode 4, the iPhone 5 and possibly iOS 5, new App Store and a focus on Cocoa.
There have been NO released beta's to developers on OS X Lion (and I have a developer account). Apple has focused the majority of their team on iOS as it has been a
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Many threads on MacRumors about Lion, many believe iOS and OS X may one day merge (developers run iOS in simulators on OS X, it wouldn't be a stretch). For heavy hitters, I don't want iOS to run on my desktop, things change, but that will NEVER suit professionals.
As for Lion, name one major feature that has been getting buzz (besides "Mission Control" and the already released iOS - err- OS X "App Store"). Tiger, Leopard and Snow Leopard beta's were consistently released and leaked. Lion? Not a meow except for one sad announcement (not even an independent focus but a small mention with other topics.
Features dropped from Leopard/Snow Leopard beta's:
1. "Resolution Independence" (and don't tell me after 4+ years they are still "getting it right")
2. ZFS (yes, Sun Microsystems company issue, but ZFS could have easily been acquired by Apple with their billions, would have helped manage large file systems such as XServ - oh, wait…)
3. Practical features such as "Answering Machine" in iChat in a Leopard beta allowing video/audio away messages and video/audio recorded messages, even incorporating VoIP/Landlines/Mobile phones into the Mac and accessible away from home (great for the deaf). FaceTime? Isn't it still in beta on OS X? :rollseyes:
4. OpenGL (no 3+ support??!)
5. What happened to "Grand Central" focus?
6. Apple moved OS X developers to iOS in 2007 when the precious iPhone was released, delayed "Snow Leopard" and since, not much on the OS X front.
7. XServe is gone, replaced by Mac Mini's and Mac Pro's
8. The dedicated line up CCFL LCD displays replaced by ONE stripped own iMac LED LCD
9. Affordable PowerMac G5 almost doubled in price with an overpowered Mac Pro Xeon Server system
10. For all Apple's touting for 64-bit, many of their new core applications such as iLife '11 are still 32-BIT!
11. MobileMe: buggy at best. IDisk is a joke, Dropbox kills it (yes, I know they operate differently, but why not CHANGE iDisk to operate BETTER?)
12. Shake was dropped and stripped down to "Motion" (not even close to what Shake could do)
13. Professional software focus dropped or dropped completely. "Final Cut Pro": a friend who recently left LA as a documentary film maker went back to Apple to work on the next release. Don't expect much, features such as "Share to XXXX" as in iPhoto are being added… to a PROFESSIONAL MOVIE EDITING APPLICATION. I can hear editors running to but Avid and Premiere Pro now.
14. Adding consumer features like "Share to Facebook" in Aperture?!? WTF?
I could go on, but I'm sure most will pass this post as "TL/DR". Professional relying on OS X are beginning to join the ranks of loyal Apple users who are leaving as Apple seems more interested in iOS. It's gotten them great market/stock share, but if they continue the average consumer may grow tired of Apple products and then what Steve? "No one uses desktops any more" and "Don't use your desktop that way" customer responses...
Again, I'm confused. What is this "OS X Lion"? What does it do? No iOS? I mean, Apple makes desktop computers?! WOW.
Xcode 4, the iPhone 5 and possibly iOS 5, new App Store and a focus on Cocoa.
There have been NO released beta's to developers on OS X Lion (and I have a developer account). Apple has focused the majority of their team on iOS as it has been a
Many threads on MacRumors about Lion, many believe iOS and OS X may one day merge (developers run iOS in simulators on OS X, it wouldn't be a stretch). For heavy hitters, I don't want iOS to run on my desktop, things change, but that will NEVER suit professionals.
As for Lion, name one major feature that has been getting buzz (besides "Mission Control" and the already released iOS - err- OS X "App Store"). Tiger, Leopard and Snow Leopard beta's were consistently released and leaked. Lion? Not a meow except for one sad announcement (not even an independent focus but a small mention with other topics.
Features dropped from Leopard/Snow Leopard beta's:
1. "Resolution Independence" (and don't tell me after 4+ years they are still "getting it right"
)2. ZFS (yes, Sun Microsystems company issue, but ZFS could have easily been acquired by Apple with their billions, would have helped manage large file systems such as XServ - oh, wait…)
3. Practical features such as "Answering Machine" in iChat in a Leopard beta allowing video/audio away messages and video/audio recorded messages, even incorporating VoIP/Landlines/Mobile phones into the Mac and accessible away from home (great for the deaf). FaceTime? Isn't it still in beta on OS X? :rollseyes:
4. OpenGL (no 3+ support??!)
5. What happened to "Grand Central" focus?
6. Apple moved OS X developers to iOS in 2007 when the precious iPhone was released, delayed "Snow Leopard" and since, not much on the OS X front.
7. XServe is gone, replaced by Mac Mini's and Mac Pro's
8. The dedicated line up CCFL LCD displays replaced by ONE stripped own iMac LED LCD
9. Affordable PowerMac G5 almost doubled in price with an overpowered Mac Pro Xeon Server system
10. For all Apple's touting for 64-bit, many of their new core applications such as iLife '11 are still 32-BIT!
11. MobileMe: buggy at best. IDisk is a joke, Dropbox kills it (yes, I know they operate differently, but why not CHANGE iDisk to operate BETTER?)
12. Shake was dropped and stripped down to "Motion" (not even close to what Shake could do)
13. Professional software focus dropped or dropped completely. "Final Cut Pro": a friend who recently left LA as a documentary film maker went back to Apple to work on the next release. Don't expect much, features such as "Share to XXXX" as in iPhoto are being added… to a PROFESSIONAL MOVIE EDITING APPLICATION. I can hear editors running to but Avid and Premiere Pro now.
14. Adding consumer features like "Share to Facebook" in Aperture?!? WTF?
I could go on, but I'm sure most will pass this post as "TL/DR". Professional relying on OS X are beginning to join the ranks of loyal Apple users who are leaving as Apple seems more interested in iOS. It's gotten them great market/stock share, but if they continue the average consumer may grow tired of Apple products and then what Steve? "No one uses desktops any more" and "Don't use your desktop that way" customer responses...
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Applebitch.com?
LoL!
What are you talking about??? Fantastic name!!
One thought I had about menubars is possibly having two kinds of menubar: one at the top (like it is now) that's for application & system wide stuff. That's like Quit (Application), Preferences, restart/shut off computer, etc. & each window would have its own menubar specific to that window like Print, Save, etc. Yet, that would confuse too many people I would think.
As for WWDC, I'm not sure what it'll be like. With Apple's "Back to the Mac" thing they had last year, I could see a combined iOS & Mac OS X Lion keynote. But I'm just going to wait and see. Though I do agree, Mac OS X & Macs do seem to have been on the back burner since the iPhone first came out. While cell phones do tend to change faster than computers, Apple has quite a few more Mac products (iMacs, Mac Pros, MacBooks, Mac Minis & Mac OS X) than iOS products (iPod Touch, iPhone iPad & iOS). Apple could hire a few for Mac engineers so the Mac line could have as much spotlight as iOS devices. But that's just my 2¢
do they have a keynote for MacBook pro? or do they just update the apple websites with the new gen computers?
because i feel like they only do keynotes wen its a mayor overhaul for the mac
because i feel like they only do keynotes wen its a mayor overhaul for the mac
What about a BIG swerve?
WWDC is strictly OSX as well as iOS5 preview. No iPhone 5.
iPhone 5 released sometime late in 4th quarter possibly early December with GSM and CDMA versions.
I'm just thinking that we are waiting on iOS5 preview and the whole iPhone 4 debut on Verizon so short before a possible iPhone 5 refresh.
What if iOS is pushed out more now with carriers opening up?
WWDC is strictly OSX as well as iOS5 preview. No iPhone 5.
iPhone 5 released sometime late in 4th quarter possibly early December with GSM and CDMA versions.
I'm just thinking that we are waiting on iOS5 preview and the whole iPhone 4 debut on Verizon so short before a possible iPhone 5 refresh.
What if iOS is pushed out more now with carriers opening up?
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Come on, why would MacRumors have any information pertaining to Verizon?
Come on, why would MacRumors have any information pertaining to Verizon?
everytime I heare the moscone center I think of 2 things WWDC and the movie The Net
Hopefully we will see some OS X updates (lion)
Hopefully we will see some OS X updates (lion)
in my knowledge the WWDC has always bin about the iOS and next gen iPhone. do you think that because of the verizon launch the iPhone 5 will be postponed till dec
Correct if I am wrong but if the WWDC is in June the iPad2 and MBP refresh has to be before that right? a Month apart at least?
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OSX Lion & iOS5 are merging, that's been made clear, I see the big data centre Apple built playing a role in this somehow. Maybe wireless sync and stream. Hey and I'll even pencil in ATV 2 take 2 with app extension to the TV hints for next year.
Mac OS everywhere!
OSX Lion & iOS5 are merging, that's been made clear, I see the big data centre Apple built playing a role in this somehow. Maybe wireless sync and stream. Hey and I'll even pencil in ATV 2 take 2 with app extension to the TV hints for next year.
Mac OS everywhere!
Really!? It's "always" been about iOS and iPhone? Wow, some of you guys sure haven't been around long have you... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWDC
Ever wonder if Apple's event managemer ever comes on here and says, "Ahp. Well, lokos like we're going to have to adjust our dates just a little.."
Wouldn't they just be so clever.
" Wouldn't they just be so clever.
Still, even with that, it's not always about just the iOS/iPhone.
In 2007 they announced the date of the iPhone release, and then showed off all the features of OS X Leopard.
In 2008 it was a 3 part developer track with iPhone, Mac and IT stuff.
2009 was about OS X 10.6, and Macbook Pro updates (and introduction of the 13" Macbook Pro) and then iPhone 3GS.
2010 was the most iOS and iPhone centric WWDC. So one year that they "mostly" concentrated on iOS/iPhone, and even then they touched on Lion. But not "always" about iOS. It's a developer's conference about ALL things Apple. Always has been, always will be.
Just saying...