xAI Launches Grok-3 AI Model, Claims Superior Performance Over GPT-4

[dannys1]

Let's all be real honest. 7 years ago 75% of the readers on this site thought Elon Musk walked on water. It's not the technology or products that have changed minds.

I think people thought that because he wasn't as "out there" as he is now - and I don't just mean the political stuff.

I bought my Tesla back in 2017. I didn't know much about Musk. I'd heard some hype from Tesla fan boys. I listened to Ashlee Vance's audio book about him, I can't even remember it now, it wasn't that interesting really - but I figured with the hype he was going to be a Steve Jobs-esque leader, visionary and speaker.

So I tuned into a Tesla keynote after I had the car to hear him speak and was massively disappointed. I just sat there thinking "this guy can't do public speaking at all, he's not charismatic, he doesn't seem intelligent, there's no leadership or iconic status here"

Since then he appears to have wanted to push himself into the lime light more and more and be powerful celebrity rather than business leader. He purchased Twitter and when you create an account suggests to follow him straight away, when you don't he appears in the timeline anyway.

I think it's a case of if he's stayed quietly in the background we'd have continued to think he's really clever and keeps hitting things out of the park.

“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.”

Springs to mind, except in this case it was better to remain silent and we'd all assume he's a genius!

Now we see him paying kids to play a game 20+ hours a day so he can pretend he's one of the best in the world at it, it's very strange behaviour.

 

[dannys1]

I would sooner give my personal info to the Chinese than Musk!

If you're American he's probably already got yours anyway 😂

 

[surferfb]

The prospect of Tesla Robots (Optimus) running Grok 3 (or greater) on Mars in the coming years is amazing if executed correctly. What a great timeline we are in with regards to space exploration.

Assuming Musk’s normal “optimistic” predictions - we can expect this is roughly 40 years.

We still don’t have FSD that actually works, SpaceX didn’t send humans to Mars in 2024, Hyperloop didn’t revolutionize travel, we don’t have a one Robotaxi in 2025, let alone the million he promised by 2020 etc.

 

[dannys1]

You know this AI will tell truth. Elon’s truth!!!

It's odd because "truth" is usually on the opposite side of what he's turned to now and he doesn't like it at all. Facts, science and evidence usually prove what he tries to parrot now wrong.

 

[nfl46]

I can’t wait until these AI models become simplified. It’s too damn nerdy right now.

 

[Frantisekj]

Elon Musk strikes again... Competition is good!

Yeah. I discovered new one as well, Chinese qwen-max, and must say was really surprised by discussion with him. How he tries to stay unbiased and how is aware of manny challenges we are facing

 

[Razorpit]

Competition is good, but I'll take everything Musk declares with a grain of salt.

I need proof that it is vastly superior, and I'll believe it. If it's so much better than anything OpenAI does, why the hell did he want to buy them last week? 🙄

As for the "maximally truthful" selling point, with all the declarations he made on X so far this year, I just don't believe it one minute.

Good question. I wish journalists who have access would ask that.

Why do we continue to give credit to this guy? If you want to celebrate the team fine, but let's not pretend this dude is in there coding and developing the LLM. He's not designing rockets or building batteries or electric motors. He's a money guy who spews a bunch of vaporware promises to pump his value in the company.

We don't give Warren Buffet direct credit when all the companies he's invested in go up in value. Why are we giving this carnival barker so much credit?

Because he's been surrounded by success for most of his life. Like it or not the companies he's involved in are successful. Just look at EV's. One of the dumbest ideas in all of transportation. The failed in the late/early 1800's/1900's yet here we are today with a modern resurgence started by Musk. The U.S. space program was going no where literally and figuratively. Cost wise the space shuttle program was a bust. SpaceX is able to carry payloads at a fraction of the cost. Most of the world now has access to the internet thanks to Starlink. He hires great talent. Talent that is able to manage very smart people. That's not easy to do.

You know this AI will tell truth. Elon’s truth!!!

As opposed to Google's truth, Microsoft's truth, OpenAI's truth, Apple's truth... Don't trust any one them. Do your own research on top of everything these "tools" provide.

 

[Zapski]

I can’t wait for the AI bubble to burst

 

[Capeto]

I tried using Grok but it said it didn’t take orders from “my kind” and called me a slur, all based on what it learned from X The Everything App.

 

[richpjr]

He hires great talent. Talent that is able to manage very smart people. That's not easy to do.

This is the single biggest thing any successful leader does. Hire good people and give them the tools to succeed.

 

[chrono1081]

Sure it does, just like Elon is an elite Diablo player *eyeroll*

 

[ForkHandles]

Good question. I wish journalists who have access would ask that.


Because he's been surrounded by success for most of his life. Like it or not the companies he's involved in are successful. Just look at EV's. One of the dumbest ideas in all of transportation. The failed in the late/early 1800's/1900's yet here we are today with a modern resurgence started by Musk. The U.S. space program was going no where literally and figuratively. Cost wise the space shuttle program was a bust. SpaceX is able to carry payloads at a fraction of the cost. Most of the world now has access to the internet thanks to Starlink. He hires great talent. Talent that is able to manage very smart people. That's not easy to do.


As opposed to Google's truth, Microsoft's truth, OpenAI's truth, Apple's truth... Don't trust any one them. Do your own research on top of everything these "tools" provide.

Your advice is fine. You portray a situation where “they’re all as bad as each other!”
This isn’t true and can easily stifle nuanced debate. OpenAI seeks to offer objective truth, DeepSeek cannot, they’re not the same.
Elon truth, we already see from his previous work that equality of access is not his primary concern.

 

[orbital~debris]

Elon Musk

Well, there's a non-starter – right in the first two words of the post.

 

[wanha]

Anyone here that takes Elon at his word?

 

[xander49x]

if it's from Musk the product is bad, I would never use it, look what Musk did to Twitter. #boycottElonMusk

 

[PsykX]

As opposed to Google's truth, Microsoft's truth, OpenAI's truth, Apple's truth... Don't trust any one them. Do your own research on top of everything these "tools" provide.

Exactly.

At least when I ask something to ChatGPT I always ask for credible and official references when they exist. I like their implementation of footnotes and references.
Sometimes it won't give me any references, or will give me references where I cannot find the info, which leads me to think his answer is not factual and leads to more and more research before coming up to a conclusion.

 

[nostradumbass]

Elon Musk strikes again... Competition is good!

It’s not a free market when it’s controlled by unelected globally decentralized criminal billionaires who buy your country with the money they stole from manipulating stock markets and unregulated markets.

Competition is when competitors begin on the same starting line.

 

[SBlue1]

I can’t wait until these AI models become simplified. It’s too damn nerdy right now.

Why? It's not too hard. I was looking for a cheaper insurance with ChatGPT earlier. However, I value two benefits that are rarely included. ChatGPT finished the search in three minutes and gave me a nice table with prices and benefits. Last time, the same search took me an entire day.

 

[nostradumbass]

I would sooner give my personal info to the Chinese than Musk!

Pssstt…it’s the same thing. Guess who he owes billions to.

 

[Zc456]

As for the "maximally truthful" selling point, with all the declarations he made on X so far this year, I just don't believe it one minute.

Yup. All that talk about "truth" this and that is a huge red flag.

 

[Starflyer]

if it's from Musk the product is bad, I would never use it, look what Musk did to Twitter. #boycottElonMusk

What did he do to Twitter?

 

[Razorpit]

Your advice is fine. You portray a situation where “they’re all as bad as each other!”
This isn’t true and can easily stifle nuanced debate. OpenAI seeks to offer objective truth, DeepSeek cannot, they’re not the same.
Elon truth, we already see from his previous work that equality of access is not his primary concern.

Except that is not true. I asked ChatGPT a question 2-3 weeks back on when someone first registered as a democrat. The answer I received was wrong. When i pressed harder and asked why did you give me that date it did not know. The discussion then basically came down to the equivalent of a 14 year old who didn't do his homework. It had no answer on why it very confidently gave me the wrong answer. This wasn't the first time this happened either.

None of these LLM's are were created for some objective truth. They're out there to collect dollars from gullible investors.

Think about it. If you built a working model that could solve all of the world's problems why would you announce it to the world? Why would you need investment dollars. If this technology was so awesome why wouldn't the people who put it together use it to produce the cure for cancer. To create a vehicle battery pack that was better for the environment, could power a vehicle for hundreds of miles, and be completely recharged in seconds. To solve world hunger.

This is all nothing more than a modern day carnival show.

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

Everyday, there’s a new AI model. I can’t keep up.

Wait until the AI is coding its own new models... faster & faster as the A.I. brain grows that intelligence. And then it matches the smartest of us. And then surpasses us. And eventually sees us like we see bugs. And then youngling A.I. bots studying history learn about Neanderthals followed by Homo sapiens followed by "us."

 

[JungleNYC]

I use all of these, for different things. If it's something important (or political) I use all them, to see where the overlap & differences are.

I'm assuming that sort of aggregation will become the norm at some point.

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

When will AI replace 75% of all the jobs? I’m ready to be replaced.

About all of us could use a good diet. And not eating is a fast way to lose some pounds. Them people on the show Naked & Afraid generally not able to find anything to eat always have dramatic weight loss by day 21. Plus skinny & weak from malnutrition should make us easy to finish off.