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At the moment I'm playing games on PC, Wii U, 3DS and PS4. I've got to say PC isn't as bad as you make it sound. Driver updates aren't a problem. Once a month there's a popup telling you there's a new update out (if you haven't got auto-update set), run it, reboot if you need to or wait until the next boot. There's only as much tinkering as you want, if you want a console experience set the game to Medium and 1080p. Controller point depends on the game, I know it's easy to set it up on games like L4D. I think at this point the PC has way more exclusives than the Xbox One or PS4, heh.

I'm starting to get back into PC gaming for Oculus Rift, the cheaper price for games, and the range of control options. For example my PS4 doesn't work with a Logitech G27! PC (and PS3) does just fine.

Honestly tinkering isn't an issue on a modern gaming PC but getting games to run smoothly on my rMBP is a hassle. I end up spending half my time in settings in the newer games. But really my main issue is I like the ability to rent and sell games, and don't usually get $40-$50 worth if value out of a game unless I really, really enjoy it enough to give it a full play-through.

I do miss having a gaming PC though, but the graphics difference is negligible in most games at this point even if the additional visual options are technically impressive.
 
PS4.

Microsoft flubbed this round by allowing their media strategy to dictate the hardware.
 
I am annoyed about silly things on my XB1, such as TV in. In Ireland we have access to UK television and things like FREESAT here, however the menu system of the xbox one refuses to allow you to choose it as a TV provider if your country is set to Ireland. I have to change the whole system to UK for it to see my TV & TV listings. It works great, BUT.... I then can not proceed to purchase anything from the store or get my free gold games because it gives me an error when attempting to purchase and prompts me to change my system back to Ireland. I do that, and I lose the TV support for FREESAT. Annoying...... That being said - if you are in a country like the USA that isn't an issue and having everything in your media centre hooked up with 1 device is awesome (when it works it really really works).

That sucks, I bet Scotland's happy they didn't become independent ;)

Sorry, sorry, don't want to turn this into a political debate, just kidding! I think you have the best comparison here.

As for the PS4 2.0 update, I think they've fixed it since you made your post? I haven't got a PS4 yet so not sure, just wondering.

Also as for the Wii U, I really want Mario Kart 8, but I don't think that's worth buying a whole Wii U for :( maybe in a few years I'll at least get a preowned Wii U, I don't think there are any other Wii U games that interest me (And I'm not a Smash Bros fan lol, every time I go to a friend's house I have to be forced to play it but I don't think I've ever enjoyed it).

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How could this possibly not be available for me in the UK :confused:

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PS4.

Microsoft flubbed this round by allowing their media strategy to dictate the hardware.

Agreed. Anyone recall Microsoft's Press event E3 2013? I was so pissed after that. Always on internet required, lame DRM, kinect required, high price, lack of focus on games. They've rolled back on all of that fortunately, but it cost them big time in this console war and they are way behind PS4 in sales. They have a chance to gain some ground this holiday season since their console is now cheaper, but they got a lot of catching up to do.

Apart from that, I prefer future PS4 exclusives over XB1. Only xbox exclusive IP that interest me is Halo and maybe Fable. Perhaps this time next year there will be another price drop with a good Halo:MCC and Halo:5 bundle and I will have forgotten MS's shenanigans that will make me want one. For now, I'll stick to PS4 and Wii U...
 
Yes they made massive mistakes during that press conference but the way they have rectified them and then some is very impressive.

I own both but the XB1 has so many other features and overall better device than my PS4 that it has dominated my time lately.

PS4 has been so stagnant after getting a "lead" in the console war that it is pretty lame to rest on your laurels. The exclusive game releases have been few and far between let alone the updates as compared to the monthly XB1 updates and premium exclusive releases lately like Sunset Overdrive and Halo.

PS4 will come back again big time with Uncharted and others but it seems they havent done a thing since maybe Second Son which was just ok IMO.

Very impressed by XB1 and this is my first XBox machine and glad I got it.
 
Bleh, PC can have prettier graphics by far but is too much of a hassle.
Oh I don't know. I use my Gaming PC just like a console and I rarely have the hassles you describe.

- driver updates
Occur automatically in the background with Windows Update. I don't have to do a thing.

- tinkering with settings constantly
Hardly constantly. Occasionally, when a game fluffs up device detection, yes, I'll have to flip everything on to ultra/high (or whatever optimal settings) once before playing. After that, Steam Cloud saves my settings.

- can't sell PC games when done
Nonsense. Many PC games come in non-DRM'd disc formats. Although, for sheer convenience, I use Steam.

- can't realistically play multiplayer with a controller
For older games, this is true. However many newer multiplayer games add a little autoaim for them using controllers to balance it out for them using the super accurate mouse.

- some great exclusives on consoles that PC will never get... although it is getting all of X1's exclusives lol
Also true I guess. But PC also has exclusives, and thanks to backwards compatibility, it has a lot more than the new consoles will ever have.

Not that I want to start a console vs PC war at all. Just a few thoughts on your comments as someone who treats his gaming PC just like a console. :)

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Agreed. Anyone recall Microsoft's Press event E3 2013? I was so pissed after that.

I didn't even bother watching that after I stayed up all night for the initial announcement and had nothing but two hours of this...
 
I was gonna get a GTX 980 and game with that but then I realized, each 3-4 years I gotta swap out the card and get a new one and PC games have horrible online multiplayer! You gotta install an app for each game company; steam, origin, ubisoft, rockstart social whatever and etc.. while on console you don't and a console is 400$ and it's simply better!

I will buy a glacier white ps4 when Sony stops selling it in a bundle with destiny!
 
PS4 has been so stagnant after getting a "lead" in the console war that it is pretty lame to rest on your laurels. The exclusive game releases have been few and far between let alone the updates as compared to the monthly XB1 updates and premium exclusive releases lately like Sunset Overdrive and Halo.

Agreed that PS4 exclusives are a bit stagnant now, but really XB1's are too except for those notable exceptions (I'd argue Halo:MCC while great, is nothing new really, just a face lift and expanded multi-player). Fact of the matter is, there will be far fewer exclusives this generation. Main differences will be things like DLC, bundles, etc.
 
I was gonna get a GTX 980 and game with that but then I realized, each 3-4 years I gotta swap out the card and get a new one and PC games have horrible online multiplayer! You gotta install an app for each game company; steam, origin, ubisoft, rockstart social whatever and etc.. while on console you don't and a console is 400$ and it's simply better!

I will buy a glacier white ps4 when Sony stops selling it in a bundle with destiny!

Hmm? I've only got Steam installed. Ubisoft and Rockstar launchers come with the game and boot up when you launch the game (I think they even have options to just launch right into the game). I've never had this problem :) infact I think the problem is the opposite way around - PC multiplayer seems the best. It's free, has multiple server support, most games have dedicated and player server support so even if the game shuts down you can still continue playing. Number of players seems to be more (on average. 64 player Counter Strike servers are insane).

And bear in mind that video card will output visuals better than current consoles. If you want to get a comparable card you won't be spending a lot! They're all low-mid range now.

BTW all those consoles games include uPlay and Rockstar Social Club too :)
 
I was gonna get a GTX 980 and game with that but then I realized, each 3-4 years I gotta swap out the card and get a new one and PC games have horrible online multiplayer! You gotta install an app for each game company; steam, origin, ubisoft, rockstart social whatever and etc.. while on console you don't and a console is 400$ and it's simply better!

What!? :eek: In my view if anything, PC multiplayer is far superior to what consoles offer. Games like Planetside 2 that offers maps literally the size of continents with thousands of players at once - there is nothing comparable on a console at the moment.

And just so you know, consoles do have to suffer uPlay and the RockStar Social Club, both of which on PC are kinda unnoticeable (they are very pointless as well but at least they don't try and take over your computer like Origin does. Screw Origin.)
 
Xbox One.

My year with PS4 has been great, but right now Xbox is the more compelling system. Sunset Overdrive has been incredibly fun, and I'm looking forward to playing Halo with my brother and friends when it arrives this week.

Then I've got Forza, Titanfall and Dead Rising 3 to play through over winter.

I redact this statement.

Partly because the Xbox One interface is frustrating at times (why do I have to keep manually "unsnapping" my party just because I've added someone in?) and the one game I was psyched about is annoyingly flawed. Also massive installs of every game and constant updates just makes the Xbox One a headache to work with sometimes.
 
In the past XBox and PS have been fairly close but the PS4 is miles ahead of XBox right now. Not that it really matters. Developers are going to do their best based on the consoles hardware anyway. With that said I'm happier to have the more powerful PS4 - not that it makes a difference either way.
 
the PS4 is miles ahead of XBox right now.

Disagree completely as an owner of both. Not sure the details behind this statement but I will say XBox has actually closed the gap if not taken over this fall season with the items they have put in place for the current owners and consumers.

PS hasnt provided any new games, lackluster updates, and nothing new for a while now.

I enjoy both very much but to say miles ahead is an old statement based on when these 2 were released. In my opinion of course. :)
 
Disagree completely as an owner of both. Not sure the details behind this statement but I will say XBox has actually closed the gap if not taken over this fall season with the items they have put in place for the current owners and consumers.

PS hasnt provided any new games, lackluster updates, and nothing new for a while now.

I enjoy both very much but to say miles ahead is an old statement based on when these 2 were released. In my opinion of course. :)

Well you own both so you'll have a better perspective than I would. My miles ahead comment was based on the specs of the system which one would hope are exploited better in the future but your opinion is very valid based on what Sony has failed to deliver thus far.
 
Disagree completely as an owner of both. Not sure the details behind this statement but I will say XBox has actually closed the gap if not taken over this fall season with the items they have put in place for the current owners and consumers.

PS hasnt provided any new games, lackluster updates, and nothing new for a while now.

I enjoy both very much but to say miles ahead is an old statement based on when these 2 were released. In my opinion of course. :)

As a owner of both also, I agree that PS4 is a disappointment when it comes to quality exclusives. Infamous Second was good, but I think I enjoyed last years "Last of Us remastered" for the PS4 more. Mainly bought both consoles to play exclusives only... and games for my kids. Most multi-plat games... I will buy for my gaming rig (in signature). Console exclusives like "Destiny" I bought for the PS4 since most of my kid's friends have PS4's. Timed exclusives like "Rise of the Tomb Raider" I'll buy for the XBone.. but I will buy it for PC when it goes on sale on Steam... so I can play in NVida surround (5769x1080) in NVidia 3D. Tomb Raider 2013 was fantastic in NVidia 3D surround. I love having options in gaming. :p
 
I agree with you and a reason why I am buying a Wii U as it is the king of "exclusives" if you will.

I see true exclusives going to a minimal here in the future with this next gen console series vs in the past.
 
Disagree completely as an owner of both. Not sure the details behind this statement but I will say XBox has actually closed the gap if not taken over this fall season with the items they have put in place for the current owners and consumers.

PS hasnt provided any new games, lackluster updates, and nothing new for a while now.

I enjoy both very much but to say miles ahead is an old statement based on when these 2 were released. In my opinion of course. :)

I agree and I also had both consoles at one point, sold the PS4 a while ago and I'm glad I did. In my opinion they're about even at this point. Microsoft dropped the price, dropped the kinect and has released many exclusives while Sony hasn't really done much. Well, Little Big Planet 3 is out now (.....).

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I was gonna get a GTX 980 and game with that but then I realized, each 3-4 years I gotta swap out the card and get a new one and PC games have horrible online multiplayer! You gotta install an app for each game company; steam, origin, ubisoft, rockstart social whatever and etc.. while on console you don't and a console is 400$ and it's simply better!

I will buy a glacier white ps4 when Sony stops selling it in a bundle with destiny!

Just get it man, Destiny is awesome (imo).
 
I agree and I also had both consoles at one point, sold the PS4 a while ago and I'm glad I did. In my opinion they're about even at this point. Microsoft dropped the price, dropped the kinect and has released many exclusives while Sony hasn't really done much. Well, Little Big Planet 3 is out now (.....).


Not sure why this is being repeated so much in this thread, but the PS4 has more games, more exclusives and more games in development - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_4_games http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_One_games

I seem to only have a few big AAA games that I enjoy on it (Last of Us, GTA, Second Son, Killzone) versus loads of indies (Fez, Retro City Rampage DX, Road Not Taken, Rogue Legacy, Hotline Miami, Velocity 2X). Does PT count as an AAA game? I think I've played that more than some full games!

Microsoft had to drop the price, drop Kinect. It's not a positive for them. They've had to rapidly adapt a system that people didn't want. Now if only Sony would follow that with the Vita so more people can get onboard remote playing their PS4s!
 
Not sure why this is being repeated so much in this thread, but the PS4 has more games, more exclusives and more games in development - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_4_games http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_One_games

I seem to only have a few big AAA games that I enjoy on it (Last of Us, GTA, Second Son, Killzone) versus loads of indies (Fez, Retro City Rampage DX, Road Not Taken, Rogue Legacy, Hotline Miami, Velocity 2X). Does PT count as an AAA game? I think I've played that more than some full games!

Microsoft had to drop the price, drop Kinect. It's not a positive for them. They've had to rapidly adapt a system that people didn't want. Now if only Sony would follow that with the Vita so more people can get onboard remote playing their PS4s!

Not sure why you linked those titles as XB1 has 40 exclusives and PS4 has 37 unless I counted right?

I would say PS4 did everything wonderfully from release up until the recent months. They had no reason for price drops, to release a large number of exclusives or make any big changes. Thats a pro and a con as they havent done anything except savor their early year victories. For a consumer, its crap. No new games to play exclusively on that console, no major updates to a lacking UI, and nothing to make me want to turn on my PS4 lately including a very lackluster PS+ line up.

Microsoft on the other hand had an abysmal start but has been on fire lately. It is refreshing to see them listen to their fan base and do price drops, major updates almost monthly, and release some the best exclusives yet in the next gen model (IMO).

Again, I really enjoy both consoles but I would say at this point they are very even and the clouded bias due to a terrible idea at launch is insignificant at this time as a game player.

Just my 2 cents. :)
 
Not sure why you linked those titles as XB1 has 40 exclusives and PS4 has 37 unless I counted right?

No, there are more total exclusives on the PS4. It's an oddly worded article for sure. How are you getting those numbers? There are 3 categories; exclusive on this console but available on PC, exclusive for this platform only, part of a series that's exclusive to this family of consoles. Sony has more in all categories.

Though to be fair that probably is tied to the rough pre-launch and launch, and developers choosing to see how it performs.
 
No, there are more total exclusives on the PS4. It's an oddly worded article for sure. How are you getting those numbers? There are 3 categories; exclusive on this console but available on PC, exclusive for this platform only, part of a series that's exclusive to this family of consoles. Sony has more in all categories.

Though to be fair that probably is tied to the rough pre-launch and launch, and developers choosing to see how it performs.

I did the caveman counting and just counted the greens for each console. :D
 
PS4.

Almost every game is visually better on PS4 over Xbox One. Netflix was always free to access on Sony's consoles versus forced to pay for Xbox Live. This changed recently but still is worth mentioning since it speaks to the mindsets of both companies. Power supply is built-in on PS4, versus external on Xbox One. The overall console is smaller (fact) despite the internal power supply and better looking (my opinion). Controller is wireless and battery is rechargeable via a standard USB. Xbox uses batteries and the rechargeable battery kit is just all effed up and not easy to use.

Interface isn't full of ads unlike Xbox One. PSN is a better deal than Xbox Live. Even if you pay for Xbox Live, you still get an ad-ridden interface on Xbox One.
 
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Xbox One.

To be honest, both consoles are pretty much equal to each other. Xbox one was my choice over a PS4. The Xbox has better online system than Playstation obviously. The gamepad of xbox slightly better on the any shooter game due to place of bottoms on the gamepad. Kinect voice control makes so much convenient for you to control your console from specific distant you want to control with your voice particularly when you want to stop the video game.

Beside than that, there's not a too much difference. Xbox one its own concept like PS4, I think that it is all about what you want to play. You can still get both of them and decide which one you're going to play on
 
The Xbox has better online system than Playstation obviously.

Is this still the case? I haven't played an Xbox One online, just in local multiplayer/hotseat type games so I'm not sure what it does or doesn't do over the 360 :)

The PS4 lets other people play your games via streaming, lets you play your own games on another system via streaming, has video chat, voice chat, a party system, messages with video and audio, friend list, compare trophies with friends, able to view real names+avatar, list of people you met in games. Even the Vita has all that except video chat (or maybe it does? it does have a camera but I've never looked for an app!).

What does the Xbox One offer over that?
 
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