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macOS XCode 4

displaced said:
I'm going against the tide and saying this looks quite nice.
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I also like it. I anyway use the "All in one" layout in xCode 3 so enhancements on this side will be welcome (eg. tabs).

Merging interface builder and xcode is in my opinion a very good idea. I'm still a beginner in OSX dev and I'm often not sure which changes in interface builder are visible in the Objects opened in xcode.
 
The changes make it look like it will be much easier to work with on a smaller screen, i keep loosing parts of the IDE and having to find them again especially with interface builder, by the time i've found the component i am looking for i canny find the window i was working on for pallets.
 
Tex-Twil said:
I also like it. I anyway use the "All in one" layout in xCode 3 so enhancements on this side will be welcome (eg. tabs).

Merging interface builder and xcode is in my opinion a very good idea. I'm still a beginner in OSX dev and I'm often not sure which changes in interface builder are visible in the Objects opened in xcode.
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I was a little skeptical at first as well but after seeing the new interface in action (with the XCode Assistant) I was sold. The new scheme build interface (No more messing around with separate target/SDK/Build settings!) and the significantly improved SVN/Git support is also a welcome (and much needed) improvement from XC3.
 
Guiyon said:
and the significantly improved SVN/Git support is also a welcome
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When you say significantly improved Gt support what exactly do you mean? Seeing as Xcode currently has no Git support, significantly improved Git support could just mean that they now acknowledge its existence or is Git support on a level with SVN / CVS support now?
 
Cromulent said:
When you say significantly improved Gt support what exactly do you mean? Seeing as Xcode currently has no Git support, significantly improved Git support could just mean that they now acknowledge its existence or is Git support on a level with SVN / CVS support now?
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Full on Git support baked right in with visual history browser/diffs.
 
Xcode 4

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I haven't used it, I'm going by the screenshots.

I have used VS 2005, 2008 and 2010.

Aside from the one window UI, I fail to see how it resembles it. To me it still has “Apple” written over it.
 
Screenshot and more

I know that XCode 4 is under NDA, but i'm so curious to see some screenshots and maybe take a deeper look, that i hope someone will share something soon.

[I'm a paying Mac and iOS developer, but didn't go to the WWDC]
 
I vote yes . . .

. . . based on the two screenshots I've seen in this thread.

Xcode works fine for me, I tend not to get too "IT SHOULD BE DONE THIS WAY!", and go with the flow.

That said, my major (although still mild) annoyance right now is the aptly-named window explosion when I switch to IB. I've mitigated it somewhat by limiting IB to its own space, but still. If Xcode 4 opens the .xib in the same window as the code editor (as it appears from the screenshots), that will be a plus to me.
 
I'm just glad Apple makes relatively frequent updates and doesn't let it stagnate. Some of their policies are not overly developer friendly, so it's nice that they don't charge for outdated, junky tools. It's nice to have a free IDE that is updated regularly.
 
Watch the developer tools state of the union. Available to free dev members, too.

Good lord, XCode 4 looks incredible. I used to use XCode reluctantly, wishing it would be more like VS. I take it all back now; this looks ridiculously good.

Those XCode guys deserve huge props for this; it's an iPhone 4 scale update IMO, and just as exciting.
 
Cromulent said:
Session 307 - Introducing Xcode 4 for those who want the specific one.
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I'd recommend watching the state of the union, which is like the Jobsnote for XCode 4 (minus the steve, but with extra german-ness).

The new debugger should be great (I really don't like GDB all that much), and I really like how well linked together everything is. It must have been staggeringly complicated to make an application that well integrated with itself (if you know what I mean).

The level of integration with IB is also pretty nifty. I won't spoil it for you, but it's one of those moments that puts a massive smile on your face :)

I'm itching to try this out.
 
MorphingDragon said:
Clang has been around for awhile now.

You're seeing the benefits of Clang coming into fruition. Clang was designed like an API, easily integrated directly into IDEs.
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Clang is the compiler, which is based on LLVM. I've known about it for a while (the analyse feature in XCode 3 is really useful). The new debugger is LLDB, which is related to Clang, but is new.

http://blog.llvm.org/2010/06/new-lldb-debugger.html
 
Saladinos said:
I'd recommend watching the state of the union, which is like the Jobsnote for XCode 4 (minus the steve, but with extra german-ness).
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Just watched it. Interesting seeing the new debugger and instruments. This pretty much annihilates Visual Studio in terms of actually useful development features compared with crappy Microsoft bells and whistles.
 
:D

Having watched the video. You can't judge it on those screenshots, there are too many good bits they don't show.

I don't think anyone will be disappointed with Xcode 4.
 
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