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This kind of reminds me of the RIM CEOs when it was obvious that BlackBerry was a dead-end platform. They doubled down, swearing that if they just did their best like they'd always done before, they'd get all their marketshare back in the smartphone business.

It starts to happen in a trickle, and then suddenly the company you founded is bankrupt and a footnote in history. When CEOs talk like this guy is talking, it always reminds me of RIM or 90s Apple.

Or Nokia.
 
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Mi actually makes a lot of very nice products. We have several in our household.
But the iPhone and the entire "eco-system" around it delivers an experience Mi will never be able to match.
 
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Apple did not basically invent the smartphone.
Yes they did. Before the iPhone, you had Motorola Razr and menu/arrow driven operating systems. For many years, here n MacRumors, there were rumors of an eventual Apple phone that Steve Jobs was pushing - which was the next logical progression from the iPod. Finally it came out, and set a whole new standard which was quickly copied by the Korean companies - with a good head start thanks to Google whose CEO was on the Apple board and had inside info which allowed Google to develop Android which powers these competitors.
 
This guy has been watching too much CCP propaganda and thinks he's coming off way cooler than he really is. I bet he was the kid in high school that takes gym class way too seriously.
Yeah last year they were going to make their own advanced chips - an effort that has now gone bankrupt. Talk is cheap.
 
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That’s very different from hacking into proprietary data storage and taking specs and drawings. Which is what they do. Over and over and over. Don’t make excuses for them. They are an evil regime.
Those sentiment and accusations are largely geopolitically motivated, which means, very likely, disinformation.

If those things were legitimate, why not release detailed hacking incidents and resort to lawsuits?

If Western companies are bought by Chinese companies to absorb their IP, that's not stealing.

Also, adopting an idea is not stealing, e.g., true wireless headphones, no headphone jack, notched display, etc., as long as they don't violate patents.
 
Yes they did. Before the iPhone, you had Motorola Razr and menu/arrow driven operating systems. For many years, here n MacRumors, there were rumors of an eventual Apple phone that Steve Jobs was pushing - which was the next logical progression from the iPod. Finally it came out, and set a whole new standard which was quickly copied by the Korean companies - with a good head start thanks to Google whose CEO was on the Apple board and had inside info which allowed Google to develop Android which powers these competitors.
So Blackberry just didn’t exist before 2007?
 
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Ah yes Xiaomi.

They opened an actual retail outlet here in the UK a while ago at Westfield. It was completely empty. No customers at all. It was labelled “Mi” as well clearly to avoid the obvious Chinese name which tends to be associated with “cheap spyware ridden android ****” here.

In contrast I went past it on the way to a battery swap appointment at the apple store. That was completely rammed to the point they were operating multiple queues depending on what you wanted to do.

Still I was in and out and had a new battery in my old 6s (my mother’s phone) in 90 minutes.


It is not unusual for brands with a tarnished image to 'rebrand' to obfuscate any negative connotations to its parent company and country of origin.

Another example is samsung in Japan where Apple has a 90%+ market share. samsung devices sold there are branded 'galaxy' due to a virtual boycott of korean goods so they only have galaxy stores[Galaxy Harajuku] which only sells galaxy range of goods(no tvs, washing machines etc ) instead of samsung stores to try to hide its south korean origins . samsungs Japanese website is also unique because its the only samsung regional site without samsung in the url [https://www.samsung.com/jp redirects to https://www.galaxymobile.jp/ ]
 
It is not unusual for brands with a tarnished image to 'rebrand' to obfuscate any negative connotations to its parent company and country of origin.

Another example is samsung in Japan where Apple has a 90%+ market share. samsung devices sold there are branded 'galaxy' due to a virtual boycott of korean goods so they only have galaxy stores[Galaxy Harajuku] which only sells galaxy range of goods(no tvs, washing machines etc ) instead of samsung stores to try to hide its south korean origins . samsungs Japanese website is also unique because its the only samsung regional site without samsung in the url [https://www.samsung.com/jp redirects to https://www.galaxymobile.jp/ ]
It's less that Samsung is a tarnished brand in Japan and more that they are perceived to have encroached on markets that many Japanese consider belonging to their homegrown champions, like Sony, Panasonic, Hitachi, Sharp.
 
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I would say you are wrong oh how Apple fans keep praising the activist CEO and thinking all your data is safe with Apple.
Did you even read my comment? Or did you just not understand what I said? My comment is literally the opposite of praising Apple.


Cynically speaking I think it’s just the company is less **** than all the other ones. Not that it’s really good.
At this point they are actually one of the worst.
 
I would have preferred that they were somewhat successful as their remaining option is to take Taiwan.
Let's not go there. There are better options out there, such as to comprehensively invest in fundamental research in that area.

It's in China's interest to bleed-out Taiwan first before taking it back, rather than forcibly reuniting Taiwan when its still alive and kicking.

When I say bleeding-out Taiwan, I meant to do so diplomatically, economically, militarily, psychologically, and in terms of Taiwan's leadership.
 
Pretty sure when he says a “war of life or death” he is referring to himself if they can‘t meet and beat Apple. The CCP has plenty of prison camps for people who show a “lack of initiative“ in accomplishing the Party’s goals.

That's pure Hentai fiction.
 
Usually companies promise robust competition but not to the point of life/death ... what do they know about future Chinese actions that we do not know?

Basically, a supply chain or a brand that's controlled by the US cabal is a threat to China, as evidenced by Huawei, ZTE, SMIC, etc.

They are not saying China should make everything domestically, but they are saying China should have the ability to make everything domestically without using US cabal technology, and do so swiftly with scale when there is a need.
 
Those sentiment and accusations are largely geopolitically motivated, which means, very likely, disinformation.

If those things were legitimate, why not release detailed hacking incidents and resort to lawsuits?

If Western companies are bought by Chinese companies to absorb their IP, that's not stealing.

Also, adopting an idea is not stealing, e.g., true wireless headphones, no headphone jack, notched display, etc., as long as they don't violate patents.

Lol. Stealing is stealing. And no, it’s not “disinformation”. I’ll put you down as an apologist for an evil regime. Nice chatting!
 
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