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Xiaomi VP Hugo Barra Defends Against Copycat Accusations in New Interview
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"...like with the iPhone... and you spend 7 or 8 years working on it and then it's copied - I have to be honest, the first thing I think isn't 'oh, that was flattering.'
At least the guys got a kind of comedy side.
Everything is 'copied' nowdays right down to the stores...
Even Samsung have gone with the same 'store like front' at Apple has, probably because they think it will draw more crowds...
Who knows what goes on in Samsung ...
mibooks... I like it... and it should sell for about for $600.
At least the guys got a kind of comedy side.
Everything is 'copied' nowdays right down to the stores...
Even Samsung have gone with the same 'store like front' at Apple has, probably because they think it will draw more crowds...
Who knows what goes on in Samsung ...
mibooks... I like it... and it should sell for about for $600.
Well, since they haven't really copied the tight integration software/hw, they're not really producing IOS... And they massively blatant IP violations are pretty hard to export, they'll have to produce their own crap if they want to leave countries which don't give a **** about IP. I'd say they'll probably meet the same fate as Samsung (probably worse even since at least Samsung creates good hw parts).
Huh! Did you even se the post above, they go way way way way way beyond everyone's else copying. That's why you don't see those phones here, because it's so outrageous.
They make billions they shouldn't have, which then allows them to a attacks Apple'S competitive position. The S4 was not like the Iphone, but it would never have existed without the previous Iphone's copies success.
It's not race, it's culture.
But the point is he's telling everyone outside of China they're bigots if they dare question his company. So that pretty much encompasses everyone, because in China they won't be questioned much.
haha, Don't worry, I'm sure plenty of "Mi" logos are still intact!
The question of quality is an interesting one though. One side of me says:
"Of course it can't be good quality, their new flagship MiNote phone costs $320! There has to be tradeoffs!"
Then the other side of me see's Apple deliver a spec bumped iPod touch that basically bring it to iPhone 6 internals and I say:
"It's incredible they can produce such a great piece of hardware for just $200!!"
I know this is an unfair iPod vs phone comparison - but the big ticket items - GSM and GPS chipsets could easily shoehorn in to make a viable phone to 'Apple quality' standards for a really low price. But I won't leave any final thought on the actual quality of Xiaomi's projects, I don't use them. Also I'm having enough trouble reconciling my two opposing statements in my head right now
On a lighter note, imagine if Xiaomi started copying Samsung more (*ahem* "Mi Note"?!) And then in turn Samsung started copying Xiaomi to compete in the massively expanding China market. Would it be an ever degrading series of photocopies, or would it transcend the cycle to produce something exceptionally new and weird?
@bladerunner2000 If your definition of invention is creating something with no similarity or parts similar to anything that existed before, then what you believe are truly inventions is going to be exceedingly small. It also means your definition isn't the one used by most of the rest of the world.
Henry Ford, despite common misconception, did not invent the automobile. Internal combustion powered cars had existed for decades before hand, but they were expensive and rare. Henry Ford DID invent the first mass market automobile.
Another example from the automotive world, the van. Certainly vehicles had existed which had four wheels and gas powered engines, yet the creation was also new as well. It was a new invention.
The iPhone was not the first phone. It was not the first phone with a web browser, or with a touch screen, or with volume buttons. But it combined some existing features in new ways, improved on existing inventions, and used new technologies in new ways. It also revolutionized the phone industry. It was innovative and can arguably be considered a new invention.
There is a difference between making something almost exactly like something else (aka copying or stealing) and combining or improving things in new ways (aka innovating or inventing). You would do well to learn the difference.
Henry Ford, despite common misconception, did not invent the automobile. Internal combustion powered cars had existed for decades before hand, but they were expensive and rare. Henry Ford DID invent the first mass market automobile.
Another example from the automotive world, the van. Certainly vehicles had existed which had four wheels and gas powered engines, yet the creation was also new as well. It was a new invention.
The iPhone was not the first phone. It was not the first phone with a web browser, or with a touch screen, or with volume buttons. But it combined some existing features in new ways, improved on existing inventions, and used new technologies in new ways. It also revolutionized the phone industry. It was innovative and can arguably be considered a new invention.
There is a difference between making something almost exactly like something else (aka copying or stealing) and combining or improving things in new ways (aka innovating or inventing). You would do well to learn the difference.
Seems like you might have missed a whole discussion about it a little earlier in the thread.
Horrible to suggest that multitouch wouldnt eventually come out for smartphones, as if to suggest 'if apple doesnt do it, it will never happen'
Thats crazy.
Apple wasn't the first to make a gold mobile phone but when Apple comes out with a gold phone and then suddenly everyone else does it, that is shameless unoriginal copying. They're all capitalizing on Apple's popularity to play the "me too!" game BS and do it to. It's so unoriginal.
Sure, it's unoriginal. I agree. And I also agree that many other companys, not just Xiaomi are aping Apple... whats worse is that not even Apple gets it right in the cell phone market and companys still think the way to go about it is by copying a flawed design, LOL.
In the end, DOES IT REALLY MATTER TO ANY OF YOU?
No. Your iPhone is no less of an iPhone just because a copy exists. People are gonna want that shiny apple logo to make their fashion statement anyway.
Sure... The chamfered edge is the only thing...
How anyone can defend them after this post is beyond my understanding.
Loved this video and I fully agree with everything it says, however, I must say there is a fine line between building off great ideas to create something of your own and pushing out near clones of another product or idea.
The problem is apple did develop all the tech including the original computers! Laptops, mice, UI design, windows, folders etc. just because you didn't invent it does mean your creation isn't still original.
The invention of radio was built with 'off the self' parts but was still an invention.
What this sham of a company does is copycat every aspect. Look, feel, function, design everything is copied because they can't come up with the product themselves. If they had never seen an apple device they couldn't build one. That is why they should be mocked, despised and ridiculed!
They added zero to the marketplace except giving a cheap clone to people with no respect for creativity, who have shallow pockets.
That's a good point... especially the clone part.
If you're gonna take something... take it and make it better or at least different. Come up with a new way to do something. Get creative.
But making clones only makes yourself look silly.
Xiaomi can clone the outside of the iPhone... but they're still missing the crucial inside of the iPhone.
They'll never be able to clone iOS... or its developer community... or the accessory market... etc.
Sure... The chamfered edge is the only thing...
Thanks for pointing out, damn that is blatant!
What is your definition of develop? Every company devlops a version of what you mentioned above. Or did you mean design hardware and develop software ?
Yes, Apple basically ripped of their clock design, then after they released it in IOS to the public they settled with the Swiss Rail company who own the design:
http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-to-meet-swiss-railway-over-clock-design-flap-report/
One of the rarer times when Apple just rips off something, at least when it copies Android or Apple features it has its own designs on the looks. This Chinese company doesn't do that, its just rips off Apple.
I know there's a limited number of ways a tablet/phone can look these days, but the front and colour options do make it look a helluva lot like the iphone/ipads! The back not at all. His comments about bias against Chinese companies is hilarious though as their entire production lines from cars to computers are filled with blatant copycat and rip off products which the government pretty much condones. They seem to have no concept of copyright.
Um, no. I honestly think their design looks better from the front, not so much the back. I don't see anything about that phone that is similar to any Apple phone. Except maybe the fact that they are both rectangular.
I find it interesting that no one cared how similar wall phones from different companies looked before the whole cell phone craze.
Not sure why you keep tortureing yourself then. Saddest, maybe? I'm mostly satisfied with the Apple products I own. The ones I think "suck", like the watch for example, I just don't buy...