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Apple does NOT have any right to dictate how the industry designs their phones. Every Apple fan needs to watch this:


In plain sight you see that Steve Jobs lied about Apple inventing multitouch. They did NOT. Nor did they invent rounded corners, a home button, a wedge shaped laptop or anything aesthetic.


Come on dude, look at those devices ...
 
Watch the video, Steve Jobs clearly says:
They actually did. Their implementation has never existed before, they won patents that proved it and it took Google almost 3 years to figure it their own implementation that did not infringe. It's no different from the graphical interface on the Mac. Other tech companies had access to the same information they did, but failed to have the vision to make it usable. Microsoft and Google invented copy and paste on their mobile devices long before Apple invented a way that actually worked.
 
Simply a matter of coincidence...

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So they're blatantly pointing out their own inferiority? Great job
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Sure... The chamfered edge is the only thing...

Don't forget the black t-shirt and blue jeans.
 
Are people seriously defending Xiaomi? It's a good profitable business model for them, since there is very little consequence right now in China when you plgiarize and you can make attractive products much faster and easier by simply copying others. But it's pretty ridiculous how many are trying to claim they aren't blatantly copying others' products.

I mean this doesn't even have to involve Apple. Look at Xiaomi's air purifier. Ask Hugo Barra about this and I'd love to see him saying, with a straight face, that there's only one way to design an air purifier so Xiaomi isn't copying here.

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In the automotive world design similarities occur all the time, and every automaker is guilty from one extreme to another and its not just the outside look of the car it can be audio or interfaces. So while this is an ongoing gripe by so many its time to move on already. Has this truly ever hurt Apple's sales. No. If someone is going to buy a Xiaomi phone over an iphone its likely due to the fact its cheap as hell and they can't afford an iPhone or Samsung, or LG, or anything else highend. Now if Xiaomi was selling devices with iOS on it and it looked a lot like an iPhone then it would be worth calling them out.
 
Are people seriously defending Xiaomi? It's a good profitable business model for them, since there is very little consequence right now in China when you plgiarize and you can make attractive products much faster and easier by simply copying others. But it's pretty ridiculous how many are trying to claim they aren't blatantly copying others' products.

I mean this doesn't even have to involve Apple. Look at Xiaomi's air purifier. Ask Hugo Barra about this and I'd love to see him saying, with a straight face, that there's only one way to design an air purifier so Xiaomi isn't copying here.

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My first impression was that they copied the design of the airport extreme router.

I guess that's why Xiaomi is on the rise while Samsung is on the decline. If you want to copy, you may as well go all the way and be completely shameless about it.
 
I have mixed feelings about this subject. On the one hand, copying the good stuff someone did makes everything better, and we as consumers win. On the other hand, well, you're just stealing.
 
Semantics. Even if I give you the benefit, his claims we're incredibly misleading which basically had, and still has, everyone fooled about what apple actually has invented. Did they invent it? No.

Has Apple actually invented anything?

To answer that question, watch this video:


I would argue your definition of "invention" is just semantics. If you're trying to claim Apple never invented anything, by your definition, very few companies have invented anything, ever. Compare Apple's accomplishments to its biggest competitors, Google and Microsoft... What did those companies actually invent?

Yet, Apple has revolutionized more industries than those two companies combined and more than any other tech company I can think of. You can try to downplay their "inventions", "innovations", or whatever you want to call it, but it won't change the fact that they brought products to market in a way that no one else was able to make or thought of before, which is how they became the world's richest company.
 
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Sure... The chamfered edge is the only thing...
Thanks for the visual on this.

The only more convincing proof is the interview itself. That was a classic study in lying. The lies were so interlaced, so non-stop that I had to stop the video over and over to make notes. I'm not sure I've ever seen a better 2 1/2 minute study in how to lie when you're caught.
 
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Apple does NOT have any right to dictate how the industry designs their phones. Every Apple fan needs to watch this:


In plain sight you see that Steve Jobs lied about Apple inventing multitouch. They did NOT. Nor did they invent rounded corners, a home button, a wedge shaped laptop or anything aesthetic.

Well Apple hasn't really invented much to be honest. They are typically the first to use the new technology and/or use it in a way it was never thought of.

Multitouch on a laptop...cool? On a phone? Wow!
 
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He said accusations of copying weren't fair, because these days, every smartphone looks like every other smartphone on the market.
Because everyone copies Apple... ESPECIALLY these guys.
 
I would argue your definition of "invention" is just semantics. If you're trying to claim Apple never invented anything, by your definition, very few companies have invented anything, ever. Compare Apple's accomplishments to its biggest competitors, Google and Microsoft... What did those companies actually invent?

Yet, Apple has revolutionized more industries than those two companies combined and more than any other tech company I can think of. You can try to downplay their "inventions", "innovations", or whatever you want to call it, but it won't change the fact that they brought products to market in a way that no one else was able to make or thought of before, which is how they became the world's richest company.

So what? This is not what the topic is about.
 
The only nonsense is your flawed argument.

You clearly believe the absurdity you are writing...but come on, why do you even bother. Do you really think you are going to convince anyone in this site that Xiaomi is not copying Apple? Think about it.

So you are basically posting to make yourself fell better. Wouldn't it make more sense to post your nonsense somewhere where they might actually agree with you. Why don't you try finding an Android site so you can post and get whatever is bothering you out of your system. Better yet, find a Xiaomi forum, if it exists -- I'm sure they will agree with you there.

False. Please don't spread lies. I never said Xiaomi isn't copying Apple; they are. So what? Is your iPhone less of an iPhone if Xiaomi makes a phone that merely LOOKS similarly to yours?
 
Man, I want what he's smoking. These guys have ripped off every aspect of Apple. I bet if they could find a fat and bold Chinese dude with a British accent, they would make a video of him explaining the manufacturing process.
 
Man, I want what he's smoking. These guys have ripped off every aspect of Apple. I bet if they could find a fat and bold Chinese dude with a British accent, they would make a video of him explaining the manufacturing process.
If they ever did, my family survivors would sue. I don't think I'll ever survive the laugh attack that I had. God, it would hurt so bad.
 
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There's nothing being stolen here unfortunately. Yes, the designs are similar. But you are not being forced NOT to buy Apple's product.

So why does it matter if you still get to have your iPhone?
It's simple we support the company who designs and does the work and investment to make a great product we will love. When companies steal their IP the purpose is to acquire compete with them and take customers who would otherwise buy their an Apple to get the features and design they want. This ensures continued support and development. Allowing Microsoft to steal the Mac interface for windows almost killed the company.
 
So basically, Steve Jobs can copy and steal at will but he gets his panty's caught up in a bunch when it happens to him.

Interesting that people don't have a problem with that hypocrisy. Why is that?
There's no hypocrisy. The reason you don't recognize this is because you don't understand the meaning of Picasso's quote, which is itself a variation of older quotations:
“That great poets imitate and improve, whereas small ones steal and spoil.” ~ Lord Tennyson
"One of the surest of tests is the way in which a poet borrows. Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal; bad poets deface what they take, and good poets make it into something better, or at least something different. The good poet welds his theft into a whole of feeling which is unique, utterly different from that from which it was torn; the bad poet throws it into something which has no cohesion." ~ T. S. Eliot
When Steve Jobs said that Apple is shameless about stealing, he meant it in the sense of Eliot's "mature poet," who takes an existing concept and improves upon it. Jobs' problem with Android is that Google was an "immature poet" that cloned iOS as closely as possible (at least initially), rather than making something unique. Same with Xiaomi, a company led by a most immature poet.
 
False. Please don't spread lies. I never said Xiaomi isn't copying Apple; they are. So what? Is your iPhone less of an iPhone if Xiaomi makes a phone that merely LOOKS similarly to yours?

Let's say they copy Apple to the enth degree and their phones are literally identical to iPhones in every single way -- only they are released 2 months behind schedule, at half the cost. It can be half the cost because Xiaomi have not had to invest years of research & development, hiring the best and brightest people in the world to build the product. They simply copied it.

Now, how long will Apple be able to sustain their business model if you can buy the exact same product for half the price? Not long. What does this mean? It means that everyone loses because Apple will be out of business, and the copiers won't have anyone left to copy.

This is exactly why copyright laws exist: To benefit the original creator(s).
 
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