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My eye strain issue with the 8Plus has passed. Not sure what was going on with that. I really like this phone now. The lack of notch and ability to view videos natively is very appealing.
 
Should i go for xr? Coming from 8 plus,
The 8+ is only a little more than a year old and will function absolutely fine for at least the next year or two before there are any "good" (IMO) reasons to upgrade.

That said, I understand the desire to always have the newest/newer and shiny toy to play with. So if that's where you're coming from, and if you have the money to spare, just do it. Another bonus is, if you sell you 8+ now, you'll get more money than if you sell it later.
 
Just noticed something with the XR. In landscape, in Safari, browser tabs are the same as the iPad. Very cool. The more I use this big f'er, the more I like it. Holster carry is fine, but in the pocket will take a lot to get used to.

Also regarding the cellular connectivity of the XR.......I got in an area with only 1 bar of LTE and was still pulling 40+ Mb per second and almost 10Mb upload. Cellular, wifi, connectivity in general is excellent. earpiece is nice as and loud as is the speaker. Only complaint is the size. It's a phablet to me but two people have showed me their android phones and it's small compared to that sheet.

I would not say its phablet due to screen width.
Should i go for xr? Coming from 8 plus,

Why downgrade?
 
Speaking of the iPhone 8, just received my new 8 Plus ‘Work phone’, and this thing is sharp with the space gray. Nothing to dislike here and the bezels are a _non-issue_.

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It’s a sleek looking device especially in black and the battery life is excellent. I’m sure you can see why it’s a popular option as well as this years devices when you’re effectively getting a very premium feeling phone for a very good pricd.
 
It's definitely phablet size. It's a huge phone, unfortunately with a lot of real estate dedicated to the head and chin.

I agree with phablet but don't agree on the rest. The notch is just a nothing burger to me. And it's larger yes most certainly, but for some reason it's still small enough where I'm not pissing and moaning about it, and taking/sending it back. The XS Max is the size that I'm sorry, just isn't usable for me. When Apple can remove the notch I think a 5.5" screen would be perfect.

The increased size does have its' benefits. Battery life for one (no OLED), in landscape, same tabbed browsing experience as my Ipad in Safari. The screen is better than previous LED iPhones, extremely sharp, the screen pops. After using it for 3 days I cannot believe how big of a deal people made about the pixel density. In use, nothing. Even watching vidz. Speakers are better. And the biggest thing for me is in zoomed display, so much easier on the eyes. Larger screen is easier to read emails, text messages, etc. The deal I got from my carrier got me to get one, but I must say it's been all positive so far. I love the wireless charging at home. I just lay the damn thing down on the mophie when I get home from work/gym/k9 training and I'm done with it until the morning. Face ID, wireless charging, full screen, well on both the XR and the new IPP, makes the home button phone/IPP feel like relics. I shouldn't have tried these new devices. I've got one week left to return my new IPP and a week and a half on the XR. I'm keeping both and selling my 7 and my 2015 IPP. My eval is done. These newer devices are just much more powerful and face ID and gestures are seamless.

I am not a spec sheet person with anything. Sportbikes and sports cars, I drive them and ignore the stat humpers. I need to use it or ride/drive it then I can judge for myself. The XR is a vast improvement. I'll be interest in OLED once it has gone a few generations in. Potential screen burn in, the XS cellular issues, and the main thing, $1,000+ are nothing I want anything to do with. I think if a lot of folks on the fence used the XR for a couple days it would convince them. The fact that the 128gb is only $50 than the base is also the sweet spot. And full disclosure, I played with the XS and max in the store side by side with the XR prior to doing anything. Good news is the longer people don't buy the more attractive offers Apple will authorize via your carrier of choice. I'm sure there will be good deals during the holidays. My carrier made me an offer I could not refuse.
 
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It’s a sleek looking device especially in black and the battery life is excellent. I’m sure you can see why it’s a popular option as well as this years devices when you’re effectively getting a very premium feeling phone for a very good pricd.

So here is exactly what I did:

My XS Max is great, I really do enjoy Face ID, but It can be problematic with unlocking when laying down or at various angles (Which is annoying to use my passcode everytime), And while I think Face ID is the future, Touch ID is almost flawless in every way, and I actually switched my 8+ as my personal phone, and my XS Max to be my work phone on my carrier lines. That’s how much I like the iPhone 8+, and it shares almost similar features and capabilities with XS Max.

The A11 Bionic is virtually just as fast as the XS Max with the A12 processor, and the differences are negligible that I would be able to differentiate with speed And performance.
 
I’ve been doing a bit of a comparison between my 8+ and a colleagues XR and speed wise they are identical. Screen quality was unnoticeable for me I have to say and I think you’ve really got to be looking hard for any differences. Today I had the iPhone display in a store to myself and I compared my 8+ and the XR which was next to the XS Max and can honestly say here that I couldn’t see an obvious difference between LCD and OLED. I went through photos, checking blacks, watched videos and I just can’t see a vast difference if any.

The XR lacks 3DTouch as we all know and for me that was the only negative. It’s a great looking phone and I hope Apple continue to offer this cheaper device going forward. I can’t see £450 worth of difference to the XS Max. They both look like high end premium handsets to me and the 8+ certainly didn’t feel as dated as many like to believe here either. Is this the best year in iPhone history for choice with very little to distinguish between devices? It certainly feels like it.
 
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That is my experiencing as well coming from and Xs Max which I returned in favor of the Xr. I don't see enough difference in the display for that to be a big deal. I am more bothered by the telephoto lens. 3D Touch I never used enough that I care about that and where I did use it, there is Haptic so that is fine by me.

If the Xr would have included the Telephoto lens I'd be in total 100% hog heaven. I have an 8+ for work so if I really need to take a picture with telephoto lens I can always just use it.
 
That is my experiencing as well coming from and Xs Max which I returned in favor of the Xr. I don't see enough difference in the display for that to be a big deal. I am more bothered by the telephoto lens. 3D Touch I never used enough that I care about that and where I did use it, there is Haptic so that is fine by me.

If the Xr would have included the Telephoto lens I'd be in total 100% hog heaven. I have an 8+ for work so if I really need to take a picture with telephoto lens I can always just use it.

If folks can get past the sophistry about ppi and seriously look at the XR, they will find that Apple has produced a fine phone for a comparatively reasonable price (yes--they are all too high). Fortunately, most people walking into a store aren't forum members and will look at price and similarity among devices and choose accordingly.
 
Something switchers may want to consider, it seems each iPhone renders text/pages very differently and it's almost counter-intuitive. My phone progression is iPhone 7 > XR >XS. I've never had the Plus so I can't comment on that one.

But when I moved from the 7 to the XR, as others have noted the screen is really great. But for some reason, even though the XR had a much larger screen than the 7, text appeared smaller, and harder to read.

When I got the XS, I thought that issue will be magnified even more making the reading experience worse (going from the larger 6.1 to the 5.8) but to my surprise the XS rendered text and pages larger than the XR, in just about all the apps (messages, Safari, Email etc...) and it was much easier to read. I still don't know what's going on with this, it doesn't quite make much sense. Is it an aspect ratio thing? My guess is it's software-related, but why would Apple intentionally make the reading experience and page rendering worse on a larger screen than the smaller ones?
 
Something switchers may want to consider, it seems each iPhone renders text/pages very differently and it's almost counter-intuitive. My phone progression is iPhone 7 > XR >XS. I've never had the Plus so I can't comment on that one.

But when I moved from the 7 to the XR, as others have noted the screen is really great. But for some reason, even though the XR had a much larger screen than the 7, text appeared smaller, and harder to read.

When I got the XS, I thought that issue will be magnified even more making the reading experience worse (going from the larger 6.1 to the 5.8) but to my surprise the XS rendered text and pages larger than the XR, in just about all the apps (messages, Safari, Email etc...) and it was much easier to read. I still don't know what's going on with this, it doesn't quite make much sense. Is it an aspect ration thing? My guess is it's software-related, but why would Apple intentionally make the reading experience and page rendering worse on a larger screen than the smaller ones?

You neee to switch from standard to zoomed for display settings
 
You neee to switch from standard to zoomed for display settings

Ah, I didn't change any settings. I just compared them using the same. Just for reference; do you mean:
1. Settings - Display & Brightness - Text Size?
2. Settings - General - Accessibility - Zoom?
 
Ah, I didn't change any settings. I just compared them using the same. Just for reference; do you mean:
1. Settings - Display & Brightness - Text Size?
2. Settings - General - Accessibility - Zoom?

Settings display and brightness > display zoom
 
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Something switchers may want to consider, it seems each iPhone renders text/pages very differently and it's almost counter-intuitive. My phone progression is iPhone 7 > XR >XS. I've never had the Plus so I can't comment on that one.

But when I moved from the 7 to the XR, as others have noted the screen is really great. But for some reason, even though the XR had a much larger screen than the 7, text appeared smaller, and harder to read.

When I got the XS, I thought that issue will be magnified even more making the reading experience worse (going from the larger 6.1 to the 5.8) but to my surprise the XS rendered text and pages larger than the XR, in just about all the apps (messages, Safari, Email etc...) and it was much easier to read. I still don't know what's going on with this, it doesn't quite make much sense. Is it an aspect ratio thing? My guess is it's software-related, but why would Apple intentionally make the reading experience and page rendering worse on a larger screen than the smaller ones?

The standard display on the XS presents text a little larger that on the XR. That’s why I use display zoom on my XR, an option not on the XS.
 
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That is my experiencing as well coming from and Xs Max which I returned in favor of the Xr. I don't see enough difference in the display for that to be a big deal. I am more bothered by the telephoto lens. 3D Touch I never used enough that I care about that and where I did use it, there is Haptic so that is fine by me.

If the Xr would have included the Telephoto lens I'd be in total 100% hog heaven. I have an 8+ for work so if I really need to take a picture with telephoto lens I can always just use it.

I had forgotten but yes one of the other reasons I chose the 8+ was the telephoto lens. They really need to include that on its successor I think. I wasn’t bothered about it looking older and purely judged on features and price. I think either is a great buy. I would be very surprised if the XR isn’t the best selling iPhone over the next year. Consumers not comparing them spec for spec will just see an identical iPhone to the XS but a hell of a lot cheaper and it’s almost like there isn’t enough difference.
 
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Ok I want to share my experiences as well. I had IPhone X first day. But last 3-4 months I suffered with severe headaches daily. In the beginning I used so many paracetamols and got my eye test done as well. But nothing seemed to work until I read an article about PWM on iPhone X. Anyway I sold iPhone X and purchased XR, but in the first week headaches were better but still mild pain on eyes and headaches were back every 48 hours with iPhone XR as well. As a phone I liked XR a lot than X but my hands were getting g tired as well due to increased size and I can’t say sure but it might be Face ID that’s giving me headaches. Can’t really say for sure but headaches were manageable with XR compared to X.

Sold it and thought 8 plus vs 8. But before iPhone x I sold 7 plus as it was too big and having finger pain due to size. So what did I end up with. Only phone which you can use with single hand and no Face ID and with better camera is IPhone 8. Atlast typing this on iPhone 8 since 48 hours and no headaches at all.

Hope this might help anyone in situation like me.
 
When I’ve compared FaceID and TouchID I can’t say I’ve noticed a huge difference. TouchID seems marginally quicker to me but they both open your phone. Can’t say I can get excited over such a basic feature, but maybe that’s me.

I'd mildly prefer they had both, though I don't see that happening. One under the screen, and the other up top, like some Android phones.

I like Face ID for those instances that my fingers are damp or if I've been eating snacks...Touch ID doesn't work.

I prefer Touch ID when I don't want to angle the phone a certain way, and just bypass the lock screen (Face ID is a two step process to get to the home screen).
 
If you ever go fishing or hunting or anything outdoors this would not even be a comparison. Touch id sucks every time you get you get your hands wet or cold or dirty. Any users saying touch id is better than face id never do anything to their hands. Working with hands also messes with touch id. In the real world touch id is crap compared to face id. In the world where people do nothing with their hands except type and complain touch id is the winner.
 
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I’ve been using TouchID for over 4 years now and don’t often get issues with my fingerprint not being recognised. Britain is cold and wet more often than not and I’ve not found issues opening my phone so far.
 
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I’ve been using TouchID for over 4 years now and don’t often get issues with my fingerprint not being recognised. Britain is cold and wet more often than not and I’ve not found issues opening my phone so far.
I have had multiple iphones with touch id and they all have issues with wet or working hands. It physically changes the fingerprint as read by the device. Have fun with the only iphone with touch id to ever work on hands that are not 100% the same as when registering fingerprints on touch id. You have the 1 in a billion phone dude!
 
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