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I want to hear about AR, not a rehash of VR. This could be a great tool for airplane & car mechanics, medical & dental students, manuals for electronics in PDFs that bring up relevant info depending on what you’re looking at & so much more… 🤞🏻
 
100% agree. Imagine Stage Manager on an AR/VR headset. :eek:

Left swipe.

Just like a dating app, except for hiding Stage Manager.

OMG I just realized AR people are going to be walking around left swiping and right swiping at people in the street. Men are going to get such a slapping.

It’s a terrible name anyway. RealityOS. It’s not reality. It’s graphical notifications and objects.
 
Most of these are boring VR.

The PSVR2 currently has the best specs. The headset plus PS5 is a $1000 and that the best deal for high resolution gaming.

So Apple should beat those specs and if it is meant for AR they have to provide battery, computing power, and make it smaller. $1500-2000 starts to sound about right.
 
I want to hear about AR, not a rehash of VR. This could be a great tool for airplane & car mechanics, medical & dental students, manuals for electronics in PDFs that bring up relevant info depending on what you’re looking at & so much more… 🤞🏻

That is already existing for training.

Except after training the professionals and experts already know where body parts and mechanical parts are supposed to be. It’s their field of expertise. So they don’t need to keep looking it up on a computer or manual or headset.
 
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If other people around the Reality user don't believe they are being secretly recorded this unit should be alright in the wild. You may get a few laughs.

Is Apple working on getting the upcoming new Grand Theft Auto game on Reality at launch?

Apple TV+ could make movies and shows more immersive for Reality users.
 
I can't wait for a lot of us to call it "Ross" and a lot of others to get mad and or confused about that. :)

(Future conversation at the Apple store)

Customer - Has Apple updated Ross yet?
Genius - Ross? I'm sorry, but there's no one working here with that name.
Customer - Yeah, it sure doesn't work!
Genius - Who did you talk to? Ross?
Customer - No, the Genius told me that there'd be a bug fix. That Ross would get the update.
Genius - Does anyone know who this Ross guy is?
Customer - No, no, last time I was here you said that the issues with my $3000 paperweight would be fixed when Apple updated Ross.
 
One of the main things I want it to do is replace all my monitors. I want to be able to sit at my desk with only a keyboard and mouse in front of me, no desk space wasted on monitors. I want to put on the goggles and see a huge desktop that spans up and around me (a dome). Then I want the macOS experience, but on this huge virtual desktop. I want to be able to move windows up out of my sight line, but be able to look up and see them again. The desktop would stay pinned to my physical environment, but turning my head would enable me to see around inside the “dome”. But I also want to see “below” the dome to see my physical desktop, my physical keyboard, my physical mouse.

Then I should be able to lean forward and see the window in front of me larger - just like if I leaned in closer to a physical monitor.

And if I display a 3D object it should appear as 3D within my visual space.

Windows should have a bit of depth, but I should be able to move them closer/further away from me. I should be able to overlap them, then be able to lean around to see the window behind the one in front (parallax).

Would I spend $3k for that? Maybe not. But saving desk space, and giving me more desktop, along with other 3D features… maybe I would.
 
The only thing I care about is that they test it thoroughly this time because oh boy macOS 13, iPadOS 16, and iOS 16 do not live up to expectations. Nevermind the new stuff like Stage Manager and new System Settings being straight bad they've broken a number of things that have been around for years like Shortcuts (again) and video playback on iPad
This has been Apple's moniker for the last few years. Nothing but flash. Happens when you have no vision at the top.
 
One of the main things I want it to do is replace all my monitors. I want to be able to sit at my desk with only a keyboard and mouse in front of me, no desk space wasted on monitors. I want to put on the goggles and see a huge desktop that spans up and around me (a dome). Then I want the macOS experience, but on this huge virtual desktop. I want to be able to move windows up out of my sight line, but be able to look up and see them again. The desktop would stay pinned to my physical environment, but turning my head would enable me to see around inside the “dome”. But I also want to see “below” the dome to see my physical desktop, my physical keyboard, my physical mouse.

Then I should be able to lean forward and see the window in front of me larger - just like if I leaned in closer to a physical monitor.

And if I display a 3D object it should appear as 3D within my visual space.

Windows should have a bit of depth, but I should be able to move them closer/further away from me. I should be able to overlap them, then be able to lean around to see the window behind the one in front (parallax).

Would I spend $3k for that? Maybe not. But saving desk space, and giving me more desktop, along with other 3D features… maybe I would.

With VR glasses you can have a virtual monitor. Not recommended if you need to use a real keyboard or interact with stuff on your desk though.

With AR glasses, the fidelity wouldn’t be there. As some color experts and video editors have mentioned also in older threads, you can’t do color accuracy or true blacks with AR. Ambient light is passing through the AR graphical objects/interface. You can have AR monitors but they would have a slightly ghostly or transparent appearance. I don’t know of any science that can prevent that unless there is a layer on the glasses that can block ambient in real time at a pixel by pixel level.

Interface bugs are an issue too. We already have some random jerkiness on macOS, iOS and iPadOS on the fastest hardware. If that happens in VR or AR it is really Frustrating because the jerkiness and bugs won’t sync with your head movement.
 
I can't wait for a lot of us to call it "Ross" and a lot of others to get mad and or confused about that. :)

(Future conversation at the Apple store)

Customer - Has Apple updated Ross yet?
Genius - Ross? I'm sorry, but there's no one working here with that name.
Customer - Yeah, it sure doesn't work!
Genius - Who did you talk to? Ross?
Customer - No, the Genius told me that there'd be a bug fix. That Ross would get the update.
Genius - Does anyone know who this Ross guy is?
Customer - No, no, last time I was here you said that the issues with my $3000 paperweight would be fixed when Apple updated Ross.
I think people will say "Reality". "Has Apple updated Reality yet?"
 
There is absolutely no useful scenario for consumers that makes such an “expensive” VR glass worth the money. For professional niche usages Apple is too restrictive, better buy a VR glass that allows all kind of free development and all Apps to run.

VR glasses calls also for the latest AAA games, which is dead on any Apple platform.
Nobody will buy a $3k VR glass to play Jetpack Joyride or other crapy Apple Arcade games, except a few crazy ones.

A $100-$300 VR glass might succeed, sorry, if they find a good way to watch vr pr0n with it, but even for pr0n an el’cheapo vr glass does the job.

I really wonder what their target audience will be.
 
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With VR glasses you can have a virtual monitor. Not recommended if you need to use a real keyboard or interact with stuff on your desk though.

With AR glasses, the fidelity wouldn’t be there. As some color experts and video editors have mentioned also in older threads, you can’t do color accuracy or true blacks with AR. Ambient light is passing through the AR graphical objects/interface. I don’t know of any science that can prevent that. You can have AR monitors but they would have a slightly ghostly or transparent appearance.

Interface bugs are an issue too. We already have some random jerkiness on macOS, iOS and iPadOS on the fastest hardware. If that happens in VR or AR it is really Frustrating because the jerkiness and bugs won’t sync with your head movement.
Maybe if you view it on a white or black screen/wall...
 
Most of these are boring VR.

The PSVR2 currently has the best specs. The headset plus PS5 is a $1000 and that the best deal for high resolution gaming.

So Apple should beat those specs and if it is meant for AR they have to provide battery, computing power, and make it smaller. $1500-2000 starts to sound about right.
PlayStation offers decent “new” AAA games, Apple don’t, and even PlayStation struggles with VR sales.

Apple VR glass will fail…
 
Perhaps cover the glasses or it could make the background black&opaque in its own.

So much complication and cost for maybe no benefit.

Some guy the other day posted a link to a site that claimed they made ‘AR contact lenses’. It was such an obviously dumb scam trying to get investors money. Hard contact lenses are the worst kind and a soft material can’t have circuitry or clear display. People rub their eyes without thinking so the last thing you want is a breakable electronic device on the eyes.
 
OMG I just realized AR people are going to be walking around left swiping and right swiping at people in the street. Men are going to get such a slapping.
Oh can't wait to see my boss trying to Jedi mind trick away the hundreds of notifications he gets daily (apparently he wants it that way...)
 
There is absolutely no useful scenario for consumers that makes such an “expensive” VR glass worth the money. For professional niche usages Apple is too restrictive, better buy a VR glass that allows all kind of free development and all Apps to run. .....
The "professional niche" angle is probably the most short sighted fallacy in Apple's VR or any other strategy. That is, if they have any strategy at all. Apple will abandon niche customers at the drop of the hat.
 
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This will be big. I don’t see how Maps will have any place in this tech, but video content and gaming will be the major areas of use. I can see how FaceTime chats would be more interesting too, and I wonder if this would work more in a community setting vs a one-to-one chat (where both would have to have the headset).

Looking forward to this. Since there are none of these devices out there, they are building something completely new and to their spec — so I don’t see bugs being an issue. I have a feeling this will take most by surprise, just like the iPhone.
 
I want to hear about AR, not a rehash of VR. This could be a great tool for airplane & car mechanics, medical & dental students, manuals for electronics in PDFs that bring up relevant info depending on what you’re looking at & so much more… 🤞🏻
Yeah medical space could be useful.
 
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