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It's AR based not VR. It's not an immersion into a fake world.
Thank god! We are distracted as it is!
But this headset will also be VR, probably, as rumors mentioned.
Honestly, I think it will have a see-through screen for AR, but it can also turn into a VR headset by blackening the entire screen.
 
Not being terrible and cheesy like that is very important… the Meta stuff worries me because it looks like that and I think Apple will make the same mistake too. Instead it should look much more like the latest game engines… super realistic. Most devices aren’t powerful enough to make this work yet, but in a few more years they will be. I also think hiding things behind virtual doors is a good idea just so we don’t have to see terrible design everywhere we look. Mind you, the real world also has this problem.
You think Apple has the same goals with this technology as Meta? That is a mistake. Meta is focused on what they call the “metaverse” — this is not Apple’s game plan.
 
I can’t believe people think this isn’t coming lol despite all of the signs/articles that it is.

oh well. you’ll see!

I’m excited for it. still have no idea how I would benefit from its features, but I’m sure Apple will knock it out of the park.
 
Well, fashion wise we are prepped for it. After the mask craze, which got pretty weird alright, and also how phones have made us withdrawn, and immersed (gone).
 
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For $2000-$3000, I rather get RTX 4090 + i9 13900K and game my socks off!!!
 
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You think Apple has the same goals with this technology as Meta? That is a mistake. Meta is focused on what they call the “metaverse” — this is not Apple’s game plan.
No I realise they are both doing their own thing, my point is they shouldn’t be. We need an open standard that works across all systems like the web. The similarity is that Apple, Facebook and Microsoft etc are all playing around with AR/VR. If they want to make this successful they should be working with game engine designers, as these are the people who have the tech and skills to make this stuff compelling, not just some locked-in emoji filled nightmare that nobody really wants. All these companies can ultimately make a lot more money if they work together on something truly impressive. There will still be plenty of room in this virtual world for Apple Music, Meta’s social, Microsoft games etc.
 
Nothing is known.

Except that there is a high risk of injury or death if you walked across streets with AR distractions and a headset.

If you don’t get mugged first.

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It can't be anymore distraction than the smartphones are and people get mugged for these too. I see everywhere people walking with their eyes glued on their smartphones like Zombies. Glasses would actually give most of that view ahead so people don't walk on walls, pillars. holes and what not.
But I completely agree with you when you say nothing is known.
 
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Not if Professor Chaos and the Zuck have anything to say about it. Bzzztttt bbbbeyow nnnannannanna. 160B2675-9FAA-4E81-83C0-F2DCEF698C84.jpeg
 
You think Apple has the same goals with this technology as Meta? That is a mistake. Meta is focused on what they call the “metaverse” — this is not Apple’s game plan.

I truly hope you're right, but I am a little worried by the emphasis apple put into emojis and animojis. If what the article says about their integration into the AR realm - and by this I mean showing avatars instead of actual peopl while i.e on a conference call - then it will detach us from reality even more.
 
Half the people here seem to think this is just a VR headset or just a heads up display headset. The thing that makes it special is AR. You’re not going to be taken out of the real world with AR. You’ll just see useful information integrated with the real world. Think of a down-pointing arrow hovering above your lost car in a parking lot. Things like this, but probably not that specifically with these goggles because people probably aren’t going to be wearing goggles out in public. Gotta wait for glasses for that.
 
Nothing is known.

Except that there is a high risk of injury or death if you walked across streets with AR distractions and a headset.

If you don’t get mugged first.

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There are several funny videos of people walking and texting on youtube. Tried linking one here, but apparently it's age restricted for some reason:

Well first, people won’t be wearing these goggles in public. Too bulky and nerdy.
Second, this isn’t a phone screen where your head is down, nor is it just a heads up display with things blocking your view of the world. AR is objects integrated into the world. Seeing an AR store sign, for example, is no different than seeing a real life store sign, only it’s digital. And if it’s a real life digital store sign, then it’s no perceivable difference at all. It will only be dangerous if developers forget common sense and make it dangerous.
 
Half the people here seem to think this is just a VR headset or just a heads up display headset. The thing that makes it special is AR. You’re not going to be taken out of the real world with AR. You’ll just see useful information integrated with the real world. Think of a down-pointing arrow hovering above your lost car in a parking lot. Things like this, but probably not that specifically with these goggles because people probably aren’t going to be wearing goggles out in public. Gotta wait for glasses for that.

This is where hype and fantasy meets reality.

Why do you need a headset to find your car when you should be smart enough to know where your car is?

Why do I need directions to go home or to work or to a shop when you should be smart enough to know where those places are or just use a map app?

Streets will always have names on them. Streets will always have direction signs and speed limit signs. It’s illegal to remove them. So AR is doing nothing there too.

Operating systems will always have the cursor for control because in many apps it is much more precise than touch or gestures.

Then we have the problem of battery life. The newest untethered Oculus has a 3 hour battery life in best circumstances. So realistically 2.5 hours. But that’s only when the device is new. After a year the battery life is less. After 2 years the battery life is much less.

It’s unhealthy to wear a headset for too long, but we can’t anyway because the battery will never allow it, and tethered use is annoying, and then half the people in the world are visually impaired and need glasses, and then there is the cost which most people will scoff at.

Then after several RealityOS updates the device will run slower just like all system updates do. Newest Ventura and Safari are already jerky and buggy on the fastest M1 Macs. Do we want that kind of bugs and slow downs stuck right to our head movement?

There are many such questions that cut through the hype.
 
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I truly hope you're right, but I am a little worried by the emphasis apple put into emojis and animojis. If what the article says about their integration into the AR realm - and by this I mean showing avatars instead of actual peopl while i.e on a conference call - then it will detach us from reality even more.
I do think FaceTime calls will play a part in this tech, but I don’t see a problem with it — and I think it could actually make video calls more enjoyable. Right now you’ve got different camera quality, backgrounds, lighting, framing — lots of distractions. I really despise video calls now for these reasons. But I think this is just a tiny piece of the use of this device.
 
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No I realise they are both doing their own thing, my point is they shouldn’t be. We need an open standard that works across all systems like the web. The similarity is that Apple, Facebook and Microsoft etc are all playing around with AR/VR. If they want to make this successful they should be working with game engine designers, as these are the people who have the tech and skills to make this stuff compelling, not just some locked-in emoji filled nightmare that nobody really wants. All these companies can ultimately make a lot more money if they work together on something truly impressive. There will still be plenty of room in this virtual world for Apple Music, Meta’s social, Microsoft games etc.
The only way Apple will work with Meta and Microsoft is by allowing apps from these companies into their App Store. Game companies will develop for whatever platform has wide adoption. Right now, I think Meta only has around 10m devices out there — but Apple has the leverage of over 1b devices behind it. It is very possible that Apple’s entry into this market will dominate within 18 months. When this happens, you will see plenty of innovations from developers running to the platform.
 
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With all due respect you/we know nothing. Nothing to go on exept speculation.
Exactly - and it's the same thing every time.

They should just call it a "rumor roundup" and be done with it.
 
We have seen AR in sci fi movies in the last 40 years. Always wanted to see in real life but in those sci fi movies it was always without a headset, which is near impossible. It requires super dense stable plasma in the air.

I personally will never wear a headset just to do whatever I can do on a monitor anyway, especially because AR can’t have the image fidelity of a monitor.

I can think of some kind of table top games where it can be useful. Like animated chess. But I’m not paying $3000 for that.
May I just point out that first you imagine the unknown device's limitations, then you respond to your imagined limitations as if they are real and you didn't just make them up 😂
 
That is already existing for training.

Except after training the professionals and experts already know where body parts and mechanical parts are supposed to be. It’s their field of expertise. So they don’t need to keep looking it up on a computer or manual or headset.
Remember when being a taxi driver used to be a job you needed to train and get a license for?

Then came navigation apps and all that expertise of knowing every single street in the city became worthless overnight.

Now all you need is a smart phone and a driver's license to drive a taxi.

I'm not suggesting all professions will follow this path, but leaving it here as a suggestion of how accurate, easy to digest information/knowledge can upend an industry.
 
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Not only does the article not KNOW anything about RealityOS, people commenting here don't either - and yet we these comments are flooded with all sorts of strong opinions of how this thing will fail.

Some people believe literally everything they think 😆
 
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Apple sees the headset as a device for gaming, watching streaming video content, and video conferencing and interfacing with other people
gaming - I can see that though Apple has no reputation for gaming according to MR members
watching video - porn, yup
video conferencing/interfacing - 900 number replacement - yup

Really? at the rumored $2k or even $3k they better come up with something more compelling, and yea, I know I know, the iPhone changed the world, not going to happen with this.
Still saying: a technology in search of a useful consumer application ...

Maybe it’s generational but I don’t see, beyond a short lived initial public popularity, why having a animated cartoon animal that follows and animates my head movements and facial expressions is somehow some Great Leap Forward in gaming, especially at the price that the device is rumored to be. And who is writing/publishing these games? Apple themselves? Look at the popular games on dedicated WinTel computers….lots of themes that Apple has intentionally stayed away from in their own gaming universe because of subject matter. But those themes are what sell…..but not beyond a dedicated but smaller market. And the ‘learning’ and ‘education’ games don’t have widespread appeal. Might be good games but at $2000 for a single headset are you buying 2 or 3 of them so your friends and family can play? And that’s if it’s only $2000, we still don’t know what it will cost. Or how much the games will cost, or what network speed and equipment you will need to use the headset in your own home, let alone trying to connect with someone/someplace remotely.

I just don’t see it making much money as a gaming device.
 
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