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I really do hope they drop the price. I paid $1400 for my 20" display, I'd probably sell it for a 23".

Fishes,
narco.
 
Price Cuts on Monitors :)

Yea i'd say this is a good thing. Also it is going along with all the rumors that apple is trying to get more of the pc market share. In order to do that they deffinately have to be priced lower and also come out with a 17" widescreen monitor for $399 :D If that happens i'll get the imac mini and a 17 widescreen monitor for my apartment at school cuz im in horrible need of a new mac (600mghz G3 ibook zzz)
 
hob said:
Surely the numbers don't translate? Is the exchange rate that similar? I'm no economics guru but AUD$1000 doesn't equal US$1000 or £1000 for that matter... right? :S

But I get your gip, it would probably be cheaper for me to buy all my apple stuff from the US (as long as customs didn't notice and charge import tax)...

The exchange rate here being pretty much US$2:£1, Apple seem to work it out at $1000:£700...

Oh, and my friend who just asked me to fix up his new XSERVES for his studio will not be pleased!!

Hob

No but currently 1 US dollar is buying $1.28 AUD which means all you need to do is multiply the US price by 1.28 to get what would be a reasonable price of the thing in this case the 20" display, which means US$999 ahould equal about AUD$1300, this works for most companies products except Apple and Sony who seem to add a fair bit more to the price. And the argument of transporting the goods to Australia is baseless because most of this stuff is made in Asia which is a hell of a lot closer to Australia than America.

Also for England the US dollar buys .52 of a pound so you are right in saying you're getting ripped off as well
 
Macshrines is also predicting new Powerbooks for tomorrow as well. They give a 2004 summary of their predictions and though I haven't been following their site at all (today is the first I've heard of them) they claim to have a good track record....gonna keep an eye on them for a while.

I'm assuming that Apple is going to get all the "smaller" updates out tomorrow and out of the way for the big stuff it next week!
 
Happy to hear those display prices are dropping! Does this perhaps have something to do with the impending headless iMac release, thereby making Apple monitors more affordable for prospective headless iMac buyers?
 
stoid said:
I'd love to see the displays drop in price. With the added education discount, I might just be able to convince myself to get one. Also, it makes a 23" iMac G5 a bit more reasonable.

I feel exactly the same way. I am curious about the pink hue problem some of them have been having though.
 
I second the opinon of seeing a new 17" monitor. It makes no sense to sell a new low priced Mac @ $500, and then have the only (Apple) monitor option be @ $1000. That puts entry level Mac at $1500, which isn't happening. The bottom market PCs are six or seven hundred WITH a monitor. I don't expect Apple to go that low, but they have to get at least as low as the eMac, don't they?

But here's hoping for a 20" Apple Display at $400 :D

-Tyler
 
Flying Llama said:
from what i understood, the 23" is HD, the 20" isnt.

The 23" is called HD, but the 20" can handle HD too.

That's accurate for the 1080i / 1080p flavors of HD, because they require 1920x1080.

However, 720p flavors of HD require 1280x720, meaning the 20" display has plenty of resolution to handle that. Even the discontinued 17" Apple Studio Display LCD at 1280x1024 can handle 720p HD natively.

Price drops on the displays will be great. Now if they would just reintroduce ADC for the 20" and 23" displays... (just kidding)
 
~Shard~ said:
Happy to hear those display prices are dropping! Does this perhaps have something to do with the impending headless iMac release, thereby making Apple monitors more affordable for prospective headless iMac buyers?


A user who is going to spend $500 on a computer isn't going to go out and spend $1000 on a monitor. Esp when for $400 more you can get a 20" G5 iMac.
 
JRM said:
It's still ridiculous how much we have to pay over here in Australia our currency means that we should only be paying AUD$1650 for them at the moment instead of $2299 and if they were to drop to US$999 we should only be paying AUD$1300

But anyway
Yep, its the standard screw australia tax (SAT). From what I've seen, all you do is just double and take a bit out whatever the american price is and that's pretty much what we get. It's bs.
 
SiliconAddict said:
A user who is going to spend $500 on a computer isn't going to go out and spend $1000 on a monitor. Esp when for $400 more you can get a 20" G5 iMac.

Agreed. ;) Just engaging in some wild speculation. :cool: Looks like the display prices will have to drop quite sharply before this will be a viable option...
 
xserve

did anyone notice that the exserve takes 10-15 business days to ship. I think this sounds like an update.
 
Flying Llama said:
from what i understood, the 23" is HD, the 20" isnt.

Yes, and that means it will work well with the new H.264 codec. That means HD DVD movies will look awsome!! In my office with Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 speakers and I'll never go home. :cool:

Now, what about my home Apple?
 
Macmaniac said:
I will bet money that if Apple releases a 17in display tomorrow for in between $299-399, this is the absolute sign of the $499-599 mac:)

What makes you think they will introduce it tomorrow and not wait for the keynote? If they do, I bet it is white and looks like an iMac. But I just bought an iMac!
 
Object-X said:
Yes, and that means it will work well with the new H.264 codec. That means HD DVD movies will look awsome!! In my office with Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 speakers and I'll never go home. :cool:

Now, what about my home Apple?

Almost any display is going to work well with the H.264/AVC codec, however, you're right that the HD flat panels will be beautiful showing movies.
-Chase
 
Flying Llama said:
from what i understood, the 23" is HD, the 20" isnt.

Actually, HD native pixel counts vary by the format.

HD formats.

HDV is 1440x1080i
DVCPRO HD is 1280x1080
HDCAM is 1440x1080 and that is just for 1080i.

There are also the 720P flavours of HD with vary in size, but mostly 1280x720 pixels.

So a 23" LCD is not really HD anymore than a 20" LCD is.

All HD formats get stretched to 1920x1080 on playback, although the resolution remains at the most, 1440x1080. The only time you may need the 23" is when you are working with Viper Filmstream HD, which comes in at the full HD resolution. I believe only 1% of the HD market can afford this level of quality.
 
Macmaniac said:
I will bet money that if Apple releases a 17in display tomorrow for in between $299-399, this is the absolute sign of the $499-599 mac:)

That is why that will not happen
 
regarding the transportation & shipping charge

JRM said:
...And the argument of transporting the goods to Australia is baseless because most of this stuff is made in Asia which is a hell of a lot closer to Australia than America.

Yes...most of the stuff is made in Asia...but as far as I know they will ship the finished product to Headquarter (i.e. US) and redistribute to other places / countries. That's explain why the price in certain country is not equal to the price in US after the currency conversion because you've already paid for the shipping charge from the manufacturing plant to US then from US to your country.

The point is, not only Apple have this practice but most company do. A good example is the company I work here is one of the distributor of Griffin products in Hong Kong, we always suffer from not getting good enough stock just because of this: the product is made in China, then ship the stock back to US via Hong Kong then from US to Hong Kong. Even though they have wearhouse in Hong Kong about 30 mins drive from our company, they refuse to ship the stuffs directly from the wearhouse.

Well in terms of inventory tracking is perfect but it's not a very good way, not only increase the cost of the product but it also make the deliver lead time much much more longer. :( :( :(
 
Asama said:
Yes...most of the stuff is made in Asia...but as far as I know they will ship the finished product to Headquarter (i.e. US) and redistribute to other places / countries. That's explain why the price in certain country is not equal to the price in US after the currency conversion because you've already paid for the shipping charge from the manufacturing plant to US then from US to your country.

The point is, not only Apple have this practice but most company do. A good example is the company I work here is one of the distributor of Griffin products in Hong Kong, we always suffer from not getting good enough stock just because of this: the product is made in China, then ship the stock back to US via Hong Kong then from US to Hong Kong. Even though they have wearhouse in Hong Kong about 30 mins drive from our company, they refuse to ship the stuffs directly from the wearhouse.

Well in terms of inventory tracking is perfect but it's not a very good way, not only increase the cost of the product but it also make the deliver lead time much much more longer. :( :( :(

Shipping costs do not cost an extra 40% or so on the overall price.
 
noise and shape

themacman said:
What is the difference between a pm g5 and an xserve g5 beside price

XServe has noisy computer-room fans, and is flattened into a rack mount. XServe has fewer PCI-X slots.

XServe doesn't do high-end graphics.
 
Xserve is a server... :eek:

basically designed for long uptimes with a high reliability than desktops. Thats also the reason why they have ECC RAM and electronics to monitor HD temps, fan temps, MB temps, etc, etc.
 
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