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Xserves, Xsan & Display Price Drops Tuesday?

crazzyeddie said:
So let me get this straight... they're going to package the Dual 2ghz with a 10 client license and sell it for less than the Single 2ghz with an unlimited license? Doesn't that seems awfully backwards? Plus why does the Dual 2ghz have specs lesser than the Single 2ghz?
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I think that's a bit strange, too, but it looks like the dual 2ghz at $2699 is the same as the dual 2.3ghz cluster node just slower (no optical drive, just one drive slot and just a 10 client license). If the dual 2ghz cluster node is directed at use in high performance computing and the single 2ghz server is ment to be used as a high I/O server the specs make more sense.
 
I would say that this is still too much for displays, but that was before the new design come out. Though I don't understand the large difference in price between the 20 and 23", the price for the 30" is not too outrageous. Having gone from a G3 iMac to a G5 20" though I am more than happy with the current size of the screen. Probably update when there is a G7 23" iMac.
 
JRM said:
No but currently 1 US dollar is buying $1.28 AUD which means all you need to do is multiply the US price by 1.28 to get what would be a reasonable price of the thing in this case the 20" display, which means US$999 ahould equal about AUD$1300, this works for most companies products except Apple and Sony who seem to add a fair bit more to the price. And the argument of transporting the goods to Australia is baseless because most of this stuff is made in Asia which is a hell of a lot closer to Australia than America.

Also for England the US dollar buys .52 of a pound so you are right in saying you're getting ripped off as well
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Yes, tis true, tis true, and not limited to australia. But, i can say that tariffs, etc. can interfere. And, here's the other thing-I know that the company I work for tried to open a store in japan a while ago, and failed rediculously, because all the stuff was made in asia, but they didn't have enough of a buisness in Asia to set up distribution there, and so stuff was shipped from asia to the US and back again, and paid taxes in both the USA and Japan. Combined with the cost of real estate in japan, it was a total bust.

But, here's the deal-it might be from apple's stupidity, or it might be from apple's lack of size, but it's likely that the cost for apple of doing buisness in australia is actually signifigantly higher, and of course, all the middle men take a cut, too... so you can estimate that if the cost is higher by x, the additional add on is probably 2x.
 
God I hope the Xserve data is wrong.

We have been waiting to buy XServes to move entirely to a Mac company, but those specs are at best confusing.

BUT, the BIG mistake is changing the licenses on the Server. This is Apple being stupid and greedy. The unlimited license is a HUGE selling point for Apple, and the risk is still high buying their products in the mind of many CIO's.

They are not at the point where they can give up this ground on new XServe purchases.

I can live with all of the other specs tomorrow, but it's gotta be unlimited licenses for us to feel good about Apple.

(And yes, I know MS, et al, is a ton more. But no one gets fired for picking MS. I hate to say it, but Apple needs to understand CIO's are putting their necks out going with Apple.)
 
ah... good. this proves that they are becoming more capable of cramming g5 into small spaces. next step is seeing it in a powerbook..
 
Sir_Giggles said:
Actually, HD native pixel counts vary by the format.

HD formats.

HDV is 1440x1080i
DVCPRO HD is 1280x1080
HDCAM is 1440x1080 and that is just for 1080i.

There are also the 720P flavours of HD with vary in size, but mostly 1280x720 pixels.

So a 23" LCD is not really HD anymore than a 20" LCD is.

All HD formats get stretched to 1920x1080 on playback, although the resolution remains at the most, 1440x1080. The only time you may need the 23" is when you are working with Viper Filmstream HD, which comes in at the full HD resolution. I believe only 1% of the HD market can afford this level of quality.
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It is true that most 1080i ATSC HDTV broadcasts are indeed at 1440x1080, largely due to 19.2 Mbps bandwidth. 19.2 Mbps is simply insufficient for compressing 1920x1080 interlaced 60-frames-per-second using MPEG-2 without major artifacts.

That does not change the fact that the spec still calls for 1920x1080 resolution and both HD-DVD and Blue-Ray high definition DVDs will resolve 1920x1080 (interlaced) resolution.

That said, Apple's 20-inch Cinema Display's 1680x1050 resolution is sufficient for resolving HDTV (even 1920x1080) with satisfying detail. At any rate, I think plenty of folks would prefer to own one 23-inch Cinema HD Display over two 20-inch Cinema Displays (e.g., higher vertical resolution, lower cost, occupies less physical space, to be used with PowerBook or upcoming "iMac mini").
 
virus1 said:
ah... good. this proves that they are becoming more capable of cramming g5 into small spaces. next step is seeing it in a powerbook..
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Unfortunately you can't compare XServes to laptops.
XServes:
- They probably have very good large fans / heat sinks
- Doesn't matter about power usage - its a server so its on all the time.
- Doesn't matter too much if they get a little warm

Where as on PBs, they can't consume lots of power - due to battery life, and they have to remain quite cool for obvious reasons and the fans and heat sinks have to be small.


I'm surprised Apple won't do a 2.5Ghz XServe...
 
Stella said:
Unfortunately you can't compare XServes to laptops.
XServes:
- They probably have very good large fans / heat sinks
- Doesn't matter about power usage - its a server so its on all the time.
- Doesn't matter too much if they get a little warm

Where as on PBs, they can't consume lots of power - due to battery life, and they have to remain quite cool for obvious reasons and the fans and heat sinks have to be small.
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So I take it it will be quite a challenge producing a G5 PowerBook. :eek:
 
The more I think about this, the less I think these XServe specs are correct.

Example:

Take the 2 different D2.3Ghz servers.

If you take the lowered price one, add in the memory, drive, and server upgrade, it's less than the $1000 price difference.

Accordingly, there would be zero reason to buy the high end server when you can get the same spec doing a BTO and save $200-400.

Also, I find it highly dubious that Apple is going to drop the server down to 512MB of memory. This is a server, and anyone wanting a D2.3 machine is going to need more memory for even their most basic of needs.
 
Throw in an eMac G5 and we're all clear for MacWorld :)

I have my eye more and more on that 23".... 30" is too cool, but who wants to haul the mouse (and my head!) that far anyway? And the 23" will work with my PB... I won't have to wait until I buy a tower.
 
That would be a good start into the new year. As for PowerBook updates, I don't think they will happen, too. If remember correctly, they were in good supply before the holidays. Since I don't think they sold like hot cakes, it is probably to early for an update. My guess is it will happen in 3-4 weeks.
 
Damn...

I just bought a 23" Cinema Display on Sunday... Is there anyway that I can get this price reduction? Does Apple have a policy whereby products which have been purchased and have their prices changed a few days later, allow customers to get a refund for the difference ?

I have already opened the box and installed, it so I can't return it unless I pay the 10% restocking fee.

What about Apple's Price Match Policy... Would it fall under that ?
 
dantec said:
Is there anyway that I can get this price reduction? Does Apple have a policy whereby products which have been purchased and have their prices changed a few days later, allow customers to get a refund for the difference ?
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Yes, you have 10 days.

" Should Apple reduce its price on any shipped product within 10 calendar days of shipment, you may contact Apple Sales Support at 1-800-676-2775 to request a refund or credit of the difference between the price you were charged and the current selling price. To receive the refund or credit you must contact Apple within 14 business days of shipment."

You should have an email from apple with a subject like "Your Apple Invoice # . . . " This bit can be found at the bottom of that email. So hope they do this tomorrow and not later.
 
JRM said:
It's still ridiculous how much we have to pay over here in Australia our currency means that we should only be paying AUD$1650 for them at the moment instead of $2299 and if they were to drop to US$999 we should only be paying AUD$1300

But anyway
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Have you accounted for the import duties? Is the GST included in the pricing in Australia, or separate visible tax?
 
xStep said:
Have you accounted for the import duties? Is the GST included in the pricing in Australia, or separate visible tax?
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Australians should move to US or Canada. :p
 
backspinner said:
For $499 you can upgrade from 10 clients to unlimited clients!
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In big business, $500 is pocket change. This change may have been implemented to get more money out of mid-sized businesses.
 
Sir_Giggles said:
It's 2 am here!!
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Maybe its just a software update?
I can not do a side by side comparison as the german one is down, but it looks to me as if the usa store has some software features more like a thumbnail view of the cart to the right while browsing the store and such. Maybe the european division is rolling out this update?

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