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If Apple starts using Bing by default, they could just brand it as Siri (powered by Bing) and I'm sure Microsoft will take that deal — otherwise, Yahoo will.

Bing will take whatever deal they get as long as it is worldwide. When your market share is only a couple of percent any deal is a good one.
 
I don't think it'd be a smart move for Apple to switch just yet. Just like back then when Apple Maps was launched, many people actively avoided it and switched to Google Maps. Now we're talking about the default search engine in Safari. And that's a lot easier to change than a whole entire app. So if your customer base has shown willingness to switch providers even if it's not integrated with the OS then can you imagine how much easier it will be for people to just change the default search engine in Safari as if nothing had every happened? What I'm saying is, if the end result will be the same whether or not Apple switches the default search engine, then why not continue taking a portion of your biggest competitor's money?

The only other deal I would make for a default search engine would be with DuckDuckGo. Users get the same results as with Google but Google doesn't get any of the user analytics data (unless it's youtube video). Apple gets paid and can then tout that the default search engine doesn't track the user, another clear shot at Google.
 
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As long as duckduckgo is an option I don't care what deal they make just long as Apple gets the most money possible from them.
 
But is it better than Excite?

I think the first time I heard of Google was when they bought Deja News. Probably should remember for sure but I didn't know it was such a momentous occasion when it happened.

Yahoo, AltaVista, Lycos, HotBot, Excite, WebCrawler - all ones I used back in the day pre-2000 - used these from 1996-2000. Then I started using Google and have used it since, for the last 14 years.

Top 15 Most Popular Search Engines | November 2014

http://www.ebizmba.com/articles/search-engines

Where Are They Now? Search Engines We've Known & Loved

http://searchenginewatch.com/article/2064954/Where-Are-They-Now-Search-Engines-Weve-Known-Loved

Popular Search Engines in the 90′s: Then and Now

http://sixrevisions.com/web_design/popular-search-engines-in-the-90s-then-and-now/
 
Do what you're good at. Google is good at search and maps, so that's what I use. I would choose Microsoft over Yahoo, though.
 
Thanks for the laugh. What does Eddy Cue know about building a search engine? Last time I checked App Store search/curation is pretty bad.

I never said it was a fantastic idea, just that it is a market I could see Apple moving into. They have the weight to do it.

We didn't think moving into maps was a great idea at first, but the Apple maps seem pretty good (from my usage) these days. I rarely if ever reach for google maps on my mobile device any longer.

in short, I don't count anything out of Apple's realm of possibilities anymore. The quality of such may be in question, but I wouldn't be surprised or shocked if Apple did launch a search service of their own. Apple likes to control their ecosystem, and search is a big ecosystem piece.
 
Finding DuckDuckGo to be an incredible *superior* alternative to Google search.

- the results are great
- if they can precisely answers on a search (product search, book search, wikipedia or stack overflow can answer, etc, etc) it returns the answer on top ! Guess what that area does in Google search ? it fills it with ads
- no creepy tracking

My only issue with DuckDuckGo thus far is the image searching is not as good, thats it, everything else is as good or better. I switched about 6 months ago on my Mac and iOS devices.
 
I never said it was a fantastic idea, just that it is a market I could see Apple moving into. They have the weight to do it.

We didn't think moving into maps was a great idea at first, but the Apple maps seem pretty good (from my usage) these days. I rarely if ever reach for google maps on my mobile device any longer.

in short, I don't count anything out of Apple's realm of possibilities anymore. The quality of such may be in question, but I wouldn't be surprised or shocked if Apple did launch a search service of their own. Apple likes to control their ecosystem, and search is a big ecosystem piece.

I hope Tim Cook's Apple isn't turning into quantity over quality. What happened to 'for every yes there are a thousand noes'?
 
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I've always hated that word used in this sense.."court." It makes it sound like some kind of dirty ritual.

I guess it could also mean they're taking them out to dinner...

Am I the only one picturing Satya Nadella at a candle-lit dinner with Tim Cook, fine Italian food on the plates, red wine, soft music playing with Satya outlining why Bing is awesome, while Marissa stands outside the house in the rain holding up a 80's boombox over her head?
 
Am I the only one picturing Satya Nadella at a candle-lit dinner with Tim Cook, fine Italian food on the plates, red wine, soft music playing with Satya outlining why Bing is awesome, while Marissa stands outside the house in the rain holding up a 80's boombox over her head?

You were, but niw I'm picturing it too. :p
 
Spotlight pretty much does this already, in Yosemite.

Not really, it uses Bing for web search and fetches information from select sources like Wikipedia, IMDb, Yahoo! News, etc directly.

I think DuckDuckGo has demonstrated that you can have powerful search without the extensive tracking. Google is the best search engine, because it pretty much nailed the combination of user data, advertiser data and algorithms.
 
I reckon Apple will either switch to using DuckDuckGo/Yandex or buy out DuckDuckGo/Yandex but maintain the philosophy and policy!

Has anyone else switched to using this search engine recently, I really can't fault it and might not be quite as good as google but beats yahoo/bing in my opinion.

DuckDuckGo is my default search engine now. The result is better than yahooand bing , it's 97% as good s Google and doesn't track you so it's better.
 
It's really hard to believe, but Google's search engine has been online for 14 years! Yes, I was in line for the keynote address of Macworld SF outside the Moscone Center in January 2000, when somebody came down the line handing out flyers touting their "brand new" search engine. "Try out our new search engine, it''s better than Yahoo, Altavista, and Lycos...it's called GOOGLE!"

Yep. :)

Pretty sur i used in early 99 otr even late 98 on windows, date are getting fuzzy
 
Google is the best.

But they are only about 90% as good as they used to be. They now fail to find obvious things once in a while, and ignore mandatory (quoted) terms sometimes--and sometimes they show the term crossed out, other times they show nothing. Control has been lost. (Not to mention, Google has been dog slow for me this week.)

Bing has improved to about 85% as good as Google USED to be, making it still second-best... but good enough that I use it sometimes.

My jury is still out on Duck Duck Go. Love it, but can't say whether it's been better or worse than Bing. I don't like the small number of image results; I DO like the bang shortcuts, giving me Google (and more) whenever I want.

I've already set my default to DDG because of the bang shortcuts, but I remain a heavy Google user too. Credit where due--even I'm the product being sold, they are great for search!

But I am NEVER logged into Google: I log back out whenever I finish some necessary Google task. And I block as much tracking as I can.

Yahoo? I like mail and Flickr. Search is just a version of Bing anyway.
 
I have to copy and paste my search into Google and can usually get what I need right away.

Just add !g to the query - no copy/paste needed. Learn the !bangs, that's what makes Duck Duck Go more powerful than Google.

You know you want the Wikipedia result? Then why go through DDG - just add !w anywhere to your search. There's thousands of websites you can skip straight to with !bangs, and if you find any are missing, you can suggest an addition and they're added within a few hours. I wanted Unity's online manual to have a !bang, for example. Now you just add in !unity3d and it'll skip straight to searching the manual.

(!g skips straight to Google, btw. The once in awhile when DDG isn't giving me the right results, I add !g and it uses Google instead.)
 
I never said it was a fantastic idea, just that it is a market I could see Apple moving into. They have the weight to do it.

We didn't think moving into maps was a great idea at first, but the Apple maps seem pretty good (from my usage) these days. I rarely if ever reach for google maps on my mobile device any longer.

in short, I don't count anything out of Apple's realm of possibilities anymore. The quality of such may be in question, but I wouldn't be surprised or shocked if Apple did launch a search service of their own. Apple likes to control their ecosystem, and search is a big ecosystem piece.

Also.. What do they know about chip design or making a.phone or selling music or... Well they don,t know ... Until they do and crush you. The main issue with google is that its not tightly integrated into apples ecosystem its even working against it Got the feeling will fix this very soon and not just in the browser. Google needs to be kicked were it hurts! Money. Starve the beast should be apples objective
 
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